2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread

[still in payne]

It seems like Morey and Nurse and Brand think we need an Iavaroni.

[Arsenal]

My guess is we are offering Grimes the NAW contract of 4/$60m with the last year a player option.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/player/_/id/31574/nickeil-alexander-walker

It would be foolish for him to take the QO instead.

[SixthStreet]

That's the max I'd offer and no player option. Unlike say Giddey, Grimes can't sign the QO because he risks his raw number dropping precipitously on a healthy roster along with potential injury. Edgecombe and McCain are going to cut into minutes available and George too if decides to play hard he's quite a bit more impactful.

Ultimately, Grimes is going to be a trade chip in the next couple seasons instead of a long term piece IMO. I'd have no problem squeezing him contractually.

[sodmoraes]

That's the max I'd offer and no player option. Unlike say Giddey, Grimes can't sign the QO because he risks his raw number dropping precipitously on a healthy roster along with potential injury. Edgecombe and McCain are going to cut into minutes available and George too if decides to play hard he's quite a bit more impactful.

Ultimately, Grimes is going to be a trade chip in the next couple seasons instead of a long term piece IMO. I'd have no problem squeezing him contractually.

Yeah i agree. Grimes has no leverage. He´s a good player, but he got caught in this new cba, and has alot to lose if he goes for the QO, since our team will probably be way more healthy than last year, so he will play lower minutes and wont be a focal point of the offense.

[Foshan]

I agree, i don't know if i posted earlier, but you offer him the 4x60 w/ player option, and tell him the goal is for him to start and play a meaningful role in the teams direction.

or, you tell him to take the qualifying, and his role will be determined as the season plays out with what works best for our present/future plans, and let it fall however it does.

I think he should have a pretty strong case to start at the 2 (or 3 ) for the next couple seasons, and get his next bag as a starter... or he can be our microwave off the bench, and hope someone wants to pay him starter money next year.

[Iverson Armband]

It seems both sides would benefit from a 4/60, I wonder what the hold up is.

[Slacktard]

That's the max I'd offer and no player option. Unlike say Giddey, Grimes can't sign the QO because he risks his raw number dropping precipitously on a healthy roster along with potential injury. Edgecombe and McCain are going to cut into minutes available and George too if decides to play hard he's quite a bit more impactful.

Ultimately, Grimes is going to be a trade chip in the next couple seasons instead of a long term piece IMO. I'd have no problem squeezing him contractually.

Yea. I mean honestly if he does a QO, he's giving up around $7m or more. Unless there are significant injuries to the Sixers 1/2/3 positions he's going to be seeing less opportunity to stat pad. So then he'd be a UFA next summer and a team isn't giving him a big contract off of his Sixers 2025-2026 season.

So he's going to have to find a team to play for in 2026-2027 who is bad and gives him minutes and then hope he can parlay that into an actual substantial contract in the summer of the 2027.

So he's now kicked the can down the road on his contract for 2 full seasons with no guarantee the team he would end up in 2026-2027 is a situation/minutes that he got the last 2 months of this past season with the Sixers.

Take the 4/60. If your playing time drops you're still getting paid and your salary makes you a trade candidate for matching purposes and is high enough where the team that the Sixers might trade to is actually going to give you a look and time because of the salary and also having you under control for another few seasons.

[mjkvol]

That's the max I'd offer and no player option. Unlike say Giddey, Grimes can't sign the QO because he risks his raw number dropping precipitously on a healthy roster along with potential injury. Edgecombe and McCain are going to cut into minutes available and George too if decides to play hard he's quite a bit more impactful.

Ultimately, Grimes is going to be a trade chip in the next couple seasons instead of a long term piece IMO. I'd have no problem squeezing him contractually.

100% agree with this. I'd rather see 3/45, but 4/60 is the absolute max I'd offer. As you said, he's much more a trade chip than anything else, so getting crazy about having him on this roster makes no sense.

[Arsenal]

That's the max I'd offer and no player option. Unlike say Giddey, Grimes can't sign the QO because he risks his raw number dropping precipitously on a healthy roster along with potential injury. Edgecombe and McCain are going to cut into minutes available and George too if decides to play hard he's quite a bit more impactful.

Ultimately, Grimes is going to be a trade chip in the next couple seasons instead of a long term piece IMO. I'd have no problem squeezing him contractually.

No PO is the offer on the table. I’d agree to compromise and give the PO to get it done.

[MVP1992]

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[Foshan]

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I would have liked to get him on a 2 way or min deal… or just kept him instead of Reed lol

[MVP1992]

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I would have liked to get him on a 2 way or min deal… or just kept him instead of Reed lol

Kept Bassey & Isaiah Joe instead of Reed and a bunch of others that came & went.

[Ben]

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I would have liked to get him on a 2 way or min deal… or just kept him instead of Reed lol

Kept Bassey & Isaiah Joe instead of Reed and a bunch of others that came & went.

Isaiah Joe has no place in this conversation. Guy who got very little playing time with the Sixers, couldn't shoot worth a damn, then went elsewhere and started shooting better from 3 than he did even in college. That's cherry picking at its best.

You want to talk about Bassey over Reed? Not sure why, because it's not as if the Sixers chose one over the other. They're both gone. And the story about the Celtics eying Bassey to assume Porzingis' role? Sure, if he suddenly learns to shoot the 3. Thus far in his career he's made 3 of 13 three point shots over four seasons. That averages out to 3.25 three point shots per season. Hitting on 23% of them. And averaging 5.4 fouls per 36 minutes.. which means unplayable for full games.

Could he become a different player, who learns to shoot 3s and fouls much, much less? Anything's possible, and the Celtics have shown a lot better player development ability than the Sixers. But would Sixer fans, with the organization being what it is, have fared better by keeping that guy over others? If you could have foreseen that, you should be working in the front office.

[Zumramania]

Why did we bring back Eric Gordon and Lowry? Lowry is not even an NBA player anymore. And you can bet Nurse is going to give him minutes at the expense of more talented players. I mean, we have a stacked back court already. Why do this? This is pure nepotism. If his role is to be a mentor to the younger guys, he can retire and be an assistant coach. How is he going to be a mentor while getting destroyed on the defensive end and not being able to make a layup? Also Drummond is not a good player anymore. Can someone explain to me the logic behind these moves? This makes me so angry, especially now when we have a nice young core.

[zaz102]

Why did we bring back Eric Gordon and Lowry? Lowry is not even an NBA player anymore. And you can bet Nurse is going to give him minutes at the expense of more talented players. I mean, we have a stacked back court already. Why do this? This is pure nepotism. If his role is to be a mentor to the younger guys, he can retire and be an assistant coach. How is he going to be a mentor while getting destroyed on the defensive end and not being able to make a layup? Also Drummond is not a good player anymore. Can someone explain to me the logic behind these moves? This makes me so angry, especially now when we have a nice young core.

Drummond and Gordon were on two years deals. It sucks they are back, but that was a mistake from last year not this year.

They didn't have to sign Lowry for this year, but I think this was a move for Nurse. Probably as a way to so Nurse can have a voice in the locker room.

[LeonJordanJr24]

Resign Lonnie Walker. We could use is size , versatility and 12ppg of the bench.

Trade Grimes for a starting caliber forward thats young with athleticism. Include drummond and gordan in a filler or dump.

[MVP1992]

Resign Lonnie Walker. We could use is size , versatility and 12ppg of the bench.

Trade Grimes for a starting caliber forward thats young with athleticism. Include drummond and gordan in a filler or dump.

Include Drummond & Gordon in a filler with who?

[GutUNC]

Resign Lonnie Walker. We could use is size , versatility and 12ppg of the bench.

Trade Grimes for a starting caliber forward thats young with athleticism. Include drummond and gordan in a filler or dump.

There's no non-tanking NBA team that's giving Lonnie the time/touches to score 12 a night off the bench.

[MVP1992]

Kelly Oubre Jr. $8.4m turning 30yo vs. Dominick Barlow $peanuts 22yo

(2024-25 Season, Per 36 Minutes)
Points: Oubre 15.6 | Barlow 14.1
Rebounds: Oubre 6.4 (1.6 offensive) | Barlow 8.1 (3.4 offensive)
Assists: Oubre 1.9 | Barlow 1.7
Steals: Oubre 1.6 | Barlow 1.0
Blocks: Oubre 0.5 | Barlow 1.7


Dominick Barlow Free Throw Rate per 36 minutes (27.9%), Kelly Oubre Jr. (25.1%)


Seems Barlow has an equal 'motor'. Puts in the effort.

Can his shooting be developed further?

[youngcrev]

As of right now, I think my opening day lineup would be:

Maxey
Grimes (assuming he signs by then...)
VJ
PG
Embiid (hopefully...)

They're obviously small, but it gets 5 of your 6 most talented guys on the floor.

I was originally thinking Oubre or Edwards in there for VJ... But the more I thought about it, I don't really see why beyond them being taller. It's not like they play bigger than him. He's a better rebounder than either. Better defensive playmaker. Better shooter than Oubre. Better on ball than either.

They'll get crushed on the boards, but it won't be because VJ is out there in place of either of those guys. It'll be because Jo and PG aren't good at it as a 4/5 combo.