Summer League 2025, Multi-Game Thread – (Next Game: 6PM, Sun, July 20)

winsomme2 · Post #561 » by **winsomme2** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 11:51 am

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Based on the Summer League, Brad should have kept 32 and taken Liam from Connecticut...

For me it all comes down to the dribble drive.

3 point shooting can:
A) be streaky based on someone either being hot or cold on a particular night.
B) improve with work. We have seen bunches of players develop a really solid 3pt shot as they get comfortable with the physicality and speed of the pro game.

But dribbling and the dribble-drive, that is a skill that is a scarcity in the pro game and generally doesn't improve that much. You either have it or you don't.

The appealing thing about Hugo is that he has shown some skill there as a dribble driver. McNeeley has too but maybe a little less so than Hugo. But both were underutilized last year, so we'll have to wait and see.

Still, I'm staying ultra focused on the dribble drive because if Hugo shows that he is gonna be good at that, I could see him getting major minutes right away for the Cs.

chrisab123 · Post #562 » by **chrisab123** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:06 pm

return2glory wrote:Nice win.

Bassey was clearly our best player today. Walsh and Hugo were solid. Hugo can drive to the basket with either hand as he showed on that one play. He drove with his left hand and passed with is left hand for an assist.

Some of you are like in jr high. Lay off Lofton. The dude hustles and plays hard. He has a lot of talent. I said a few days ago, if there is any chance he can make the team, the Australians would do wonders for him.

Baylor was solid too, his shots didn't go in.

The problem with Lofton for me isn’t his weight, he’s not Michael Sweetney. However, it does limit him to the 4 or 5 and he’s somewhat undersized for that role. You have to think that his next real contract will be in China or maybe with a team in Europe.

Bassey needs to be signed. He was good at WKU and showed flashes in San Antonio. Sign him and he’s your best center by EOY. Plus plus rebounder

Smart2Nesmith43 · Post #563 » by **Smart2Nesmith43** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:15 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Based on the Summer League, Brad should have kept 32 and taken Liam from Connecticut...

McNeeley was picked 29th.

winsomme2 · Post #564 » by **winsomme2** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:31 pm

Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Based on the Summer League, Brad should have kept 32 and taken Liam from Connecticut...

McNeeley was picked 29th.

I think they’re saying that Brad should have taken McNeeley over Hugo and also kept 32 for maybe Kalk or Raynaud or some other prospect instead of trading down…

Just my guess.

playa-hater · Post #565 » by **playa-hater** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 2:30 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Should have been Wanging That Yang for the Celts...

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just another center Stevens would have passed on

playa-hater · Post #566 » by **playa-hater** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 2:34 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Based on the Summer League, Brad should have kept 32 and taken Liam from Connecticut...

and yet another Wing??

brackdan70 · Post #567 » by **brackdan70** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 2:36 pm

winsomme2 wrote:
Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Based on the Summer League, Brad should have kept 32 and taken Liam from Connecticut...

McNeeley was picked 29th.

I think they’re saying that Brad should have taken McNeeley over Hugo and also kept 32 for maybe Kalk or Raynaud or some other prospect instead of trading down…

Just my guess.

I would have melted down if we draft McNeely. Thank god Brad didn’t do that.

Hal14 · Post #568 » by **Hal14** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 2:54 pm

Anyone know why Jalen Bridges didn't play last night for us? I didn't even see him on our bench.

He supposedly signed on, not only did play SL for us but also a training camp contract..so I would have thought he'd get a solid amount of playing time for us in SL..

Post #569 » by **Parliament10** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 3:02 pm

Highlights -- Game #1

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Boxscore -- Game #1
https://www.espn.com/nba-summer-league/boxscore/_/gameId/401793888/league/nba-summer-las-vegas

(Video & Boxscore are also in Header (Post #1).

Post #570 » by **Parliament10** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 3:20 pm

Hal14 wrote:Anyone know why Jalen Bridges didn't play last night for us? I didn't even see him on our bench.

He supposedly signed on, not only did play SL for us but also a training camp contract..so I would have thought he'd get a solid amount of playing time for us in SL..

I heard that, too. But, I can't find any Exhibit 10's Officially Signed yet for the Celtics.

Boston Celtics sign former Suns forward to training camp deal (report)
By Brian Robb | brobb@masslive.com Published: Jul. 03, 2025, 10:53 a.m

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2025/07/boston-celtics-sign-former-suns-forward-to-training-camp-deal-report.html

The Celtics are adding former Suns two-way player Jalen Bridges on a training camp deal. The 6-foot-8 forward rookie will also join Boston’s Summer League team in Las Vegas according to Jay King of the Athletic.

The contract will likely be an Exhibit 10 deal which will give Bridges an opportunity to make the final roster with the team during camp. Bridges could also earn a $85,000 bonus if he remains with the Maine Celtics in the G-League for 60 days after being released during training camp.

Hal14 · Post #571 » by **Hal14** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 4:57 pm

winsomme2 wrote:
Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Based on the Summer League, Brad should have kept 32 and taken Liam from Connecticut...

McNeeley was picked 29th.

I think they’re saying that Brad should have taken McNeeley over Hugo and also kept 32 for maybe Kalk or Raynaud or some other prospect instead of trading down…

Just my guess.

I wouldn't make that assumption. Reading his post, he seems to be thinking that we should have kept pick 32 and used that pick to draft McNeeley.

If he meant something else, he could have explained it differently.

But McNeeley was not on the board at 32, so...

Hal14 · Post #572 » by **Hal14** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 5:00 pm

His english is pretty good I think, especially for a 19 yr old kid who has lived his whole life in a country where English is a foreign language and only around 27% of his country's population speak english.

Probably lots of his Real Madrid teammates spoke english though, especially the american guys on the team and the guys from the team who have played NBA ball..

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jfs1000d · Post #573 » by **jfs1000d** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 5:04 pm

Hal14 wrote:
winsomme2 wrote:
Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:McNeeley was picked 29th.

I think they’re saying that Brad should have taken McNeeley over Hugo and also kept 32 for maybe Kalk or Raynaud or some other prospect instead of trading down…

Just my guess.

I wouldn't make that assumption. Reading his post, he seems to be thinking that we should have kept pick 32 and used that pick to draft McNeeley.

If he meant something else, he could have explained it differently.

But McNeeley was not on the board at 32, so...

When you are a professional, I am sure he learned it in classes at his training complex in Real Madrid.

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jfs1000d · Post #574 » by **jfs1000d** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 5:10 pm

brackdan70 wrote:
winsomme2 wrote:
Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:McNeeley was picked 29th.

I think they’re saying that Brad should have taken McNeeley over Hugo and also kept 32 for maybe Kalk or Raynaud or some other prospect instead of trading down…

Just my guess.

I would have melted down if we draft McNeely. Thank god Brad didn’t do that.

UConn guy here. Love McNeely as a prospect, high skill level. Athleticism questionable. Good size and massive toughness.

If he can shoot it like I think he can he is gonna be a good player.

Gonzalez is a backcourt wing and I think Brad wants guys who can play the backcourt. We have wings for Days with Brown, Tatum. Like, no sense developing a 3/4 offensive wing.

Also, Gonzalez motor, athleticism and shooting potential make him a salivating prospect

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Hal14 · Post #575 » by **Hal14** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 5:21 pm

jfs1000d wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:
winsomme2 wrote:
I think they’re saying that Brad should have taken McNeeley over Hugo and also kept 32 for maybe Kalk or Raynaud or some other prospect instead of trading down…

Just my guess.

I would have melted down if we draft McNeely. Thank god Brad didn’t do that.

UConn guy here. Love McNeely as a prospect, high skill level. Athleticism questionable. Good size and massive toughness.

If he can shoot it like I think he can he is gonna be a good player.

Gonzalez is a backcourt wing and I think Brad wants guys who can play the backcourt. We have wings for Days with Brown, Tatum. Like, no sense developing a 3/4 offensive wing.

Also, Gonzalez motor, athleticism and shooting potential make him a salivating prospect

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Yeah, with Hauser and Scheierman here, there's less of a need for another tall wing who can shoot but has suspect defense and athleticism.

Clearly, Brad is determined to "hit" on one of these athletic, high motor, defensive minded wing prospects with shooting limitations and also limited creation skills. His first draft pick was Begarin. Then drafted Walsh, traded for Springer (who was only 21), now drafts Hugo.

1 of them is bound to "hit". But if not, if we go 0/4 on these guys (Begarin, Hugo, Walsh, Springer) then he might have to give up on this archetype lol.

There's also Justin Champagnie who was only like 22 when we signed him..

I'm optimistic about Hugo. Walsh looked good in yesterday's game..I'm not giving up on him yet. Begarin, we pretty much have to chalk it up as an L, but he's still only 22 and we still have his draft nights so I guess there's still some hope there as well.

Post #576 » by **Parliament10** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 5:29 pm

jfs1000d wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
winsomme2 wrote:
I think they’re saying that Brad should have taken McNeeley over Hugo and also kept 32 for maybe Kalk or Raynaud or some other prospect instead of trading down…

Just my guess.

I wouldn't make that assumption. Reading his post, he seems to be thinking that we should have kept pick 32 and used that pick to draft McNeeley.

If he meant something else, he could have explained it differently.

But McNeeley was not on the board at 32, so...

When you are a professional, I am sure he learned it in classes at his training complex in Real Madrid.

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19. I'm sure that he was taught in school. Also, both his parents were also Professional Basketball Players.
And to my knowledge, most countries wont let you get out of school, without a second language.

Looking at him in the interviews, he obviously didn't just learn english. He seemed to be thinking in english, for those questions asked in english.

winsomme2 · Post #577 » by **winsomme2** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 5:46 pm

Hal14 wrote:
jfs1000d wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:I would have melted down if we draft McNeely. Thank god Brad didn’t do that.

UConn guy here. Love McNeely as a prospect, high skill level. Athleticism questionable. Good size and massive toughness.

If he can shoot it like I think he can he is gonna be a good player.

Gonzalez is a backcourt wing and I think Brad wants guys who can play the backcourt. We have wings for Days with Brown, Tatum. Like, no sense developing a 3/4 offensive wing.

Also, Gonzalez motor, athleticism and shooting potential make him a salivating prospect

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Yeah, with Hauser and Scheierman here, there's less of a need for another tall wing who can shoot but has suspect defense and athleticism.

Clearly, Brad is determined to "hit" on one of these athletic, high motor, defensive minded wing prospects with shooting limitations and also limited creation skills. His first draft pick was Begarin. Then drafted Walsh, traded for Springer (who was only 21), now drafts Hugo.

1 of them is bound to "hit". But if not, if we go 0/4 on these guys (Begarin, Hugo, Walsh, Springer) then he might have to give up on this archetype lol.

You can throw Romeo in that mix too. The thing connects them to me is their dribble drive skills. The minute they put the ball on the floor things become a bit shaky. Two dribbles in and they are putting their heads down and barreling toward the basket.

IMO we need Hugo to be able to keep his head up when he attacks the basket in order to be effective.

As for Walsh, if he can play more like a 3 and D guy and have a solid 3pt% he could be helpful.

bigfoot_cryptozoology · Post #578 » by **bigfoot_cryptozoology** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 5:51 pm

Actually, after McNeeley was drafted at 29, I posted at the time, it will be interesting to see who turns out to be the better player, Hugo or Liam?

My most recent post on the subject, I claim 5 AM grogginess in phrasing it poorly.

Post #579 » by **Parliament10** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 6:41 pm

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Smart2Nesmith43 · Post #580 » by **Smart2Nesmith43** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 6:52 pm

Hal14 wrote:His english is pretty good I think, especially for a 19 yr old kid who has lived his whole life in a country where English is a foreign language and only around 27% of his country's population speak english.

Probably lots of his Real Madrid teammates spoke english though, especially the american guys on the team and the guys from the team who have played NBA ball..

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That 27% figure sounds incredibly made up considering how huge the tourism industry is in Spain and how the people working in it would need at least some basic English skill. Regardless, whatever the number is for the country at large, I can guarantee you it is much, much higher in Madrid especially in younger post-Franco generations. I've spent months there and I can count on one hand the number of instances where somebody's English level was a genuine obstacle for communication (granted most of my interactions were in Spanish anyway but considering how limited I am in that language I've had to fall back to English far more than I'd care to admit).