ImageImageImageImageImage

Free Agency & Trades Thread 2 **NOW OPEN**

User avatar
CazOnReal
Starter
Posts: 2,004
And1: 1,573
Joined: Jan 13, 2024
 

Re: Free Agency & Trades Thread 2 **NOW OPEN** 

Post#1081 » by CazOnReal » Fri Jul 11, 2025 7:36 pm

I just want to point out that we've probably had more posts & bafflingly heated discussions about Cam Whitmore than, like, guys we currently have on the team or actual trade targets we could add for a similarly reasonable cost.

Like if you want to take anything away from the Whitmore trade, it's that you never know what young player still on a rookie contract (2022-24; I doubt any 2025 rookies of note will be on the move for some time) available from a presumed playoff team/contender until you ask.
bobbyp3588
Pro Prospect
Posts: 756
And1: 760
Joined: May 06, 2007

Re: Free Agency & Trades Thread 2 **NOW OPEN** 

Post#1082 » by bobbyp3588 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 7:50 pm

bape_lovers wrote:RJ is getting traded daily because he is the weakest link in the starting lineup with no defence according to the board. Cam Whitmore is getting praised with just about the same skill set if not worse.


Bingo - but Whitmore isn’t nearly the player RJ is. RJ is the better scorer, playmaker, rebounder and defender.
User avatar
Clutch0z24
General Manager
Posts: 9,789
And1: 9,864
Joined: May 08, 2014
   

Re: Free Agency & Trades Thread 2 **NOW OPEN** 

Post#1083 » by Clutch0z24 » Sat Jul 12, 2025 12:09 am

Arguing about Cam vs Dick.....These 2 in terms of tiers of NBA players are in the exact same tier....Dick had way more opportunity since hes been drafted able play through mistakes since hes played for tanking or just bad teams....

This year will be Cams year to show what he can do since his playing time should go up and role should increase....

But the Dick vs Cam debate is kinda dumb atm since it comes down to preference since they both have flaws....Dicks defense will always be an issue and Cam will have to learn to play in a system....But in terms of talent they are both around the same level of talent....
Image
JCP11
Sophomore
Posts: 165
And1: 133
Joined: Apr 29, 2025

Re: Free Agency & Trades Thread 2 **NOW OPEN** 

Post#1084 » by JCP11 » Sat Jul 12, 2025 3:21 am

Clutch0z24 wrote:Arguing about Cam vs Dick.....These 2 in terms of tiers of NBA players are in the exact same tier....Dick had way more opportunity since hes been drafted able play through mistakes since hes played for tanking or just bad teams....

This year will be Cams year to show what he can do since his playing time should go up and role should increase....

But the Dick vs Cam debate is kinda dumb atm since it comes down to preference since they both have flaws....Dicks defense will always be an issue and Cam will have to learn to play in a system....But in terms of talent they are both around the same level of talent....

Not a fan of Whitmore's game, in his mind he's a number 1-2 when he should be a defense first guy and pick his spots offensively. He doesn't have the highest BBIQ either. We'll see how it goes for him.
User avatar
WuTang_OG
RealGM
Posts: 40,597
And1: 51,046
Joined: Sep 26, 2017
   

Re: Free Agency & Trades Thread 2 **NOW OPEN** 

Post#1085 » by WuTang_OG » Sat Jul 12, 2025 5:00 pm

Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=0YpMScWXY2zRUqR8fH-usg
Pointgod
RealGM
Posts: 23,940
And1: 24,298
Joined: Jun 28, 2014

Re: Free Agency & Trades Thread 2 **NOW OPEN** 

Post#1086 » by Pointgod » Sat Jul 12, 2025 5:05 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=0YpMScWXY2zRUqR8fH-usg


Restricted free agency is so trash.
Zeno
RealGM
Posts: 24,572
And1: 22,761
Joined: Jun 06, 2001
   

Re: Free Agency & Trades Thread 2 **NOW OPEN** 

Post#1087 » by Zeno » Sat Jul 12, 2025 5:37 pm

Pointgod wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=0YpMScWXY2zRUqR8fH-usg


Restricted free agency is so trash.

Honestly, it amazes me that draft prospects don’t try to angle themselves to certain teams more aggressively like they used to. 4 years, then trapped in an artificially constrained market.
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

Please advise….

Dan G.
bboyskinnylegs
RealGM
Posts: 43,641
And1: 26,107
Joined: Jul 11, 2009

Re: Free Agency & Trades Thread 2 **NOW OPEN** 

Post#1088 » by bboyskinnylegs » Sat Jul 12, 2025 8:16 pm

Zeno wrote:Honestly, it amazes me that draft prospects don’t try to angle themselves to certain teams more aggressively like they used to. 4 years, then trapped in an artificially constrained market.

backlash can be pretty harsh trying to do that as we saw with Ace Bailey
bboyskinnylegs
RealGM
Posts: 43,641
And1: 26,107
Joined: Jul 11, 2009

Re: Free Agency & Trades Thread 2 **NOW OPEN** 

Post#1089 » by bboyskinnylegs » Sat Jul 12, 2025 8:17 pm

so is he back to the Warriors on a qualifying offer or something more?
User avatar
CazOnReal
Starter
Posts: 2,004
And1: 1,573
Joined: Jan 13, 2024
 

Re: Free Agency & Trades Thread 2 **NOW OPEN** 

Post#1090 » by CazOnReal » Sun Jul 13, 2025 12:04 am

bboyskinnylegs wrote:so is he back to the Warriors on a qualifying offer or something more?

Qualifying offer has an inherent NTC so I doubt that
User avatar
TimeForChange
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,494
And1: 4,809
Joined: Dec 23, 2023

Re: Free Agency & Trades Thread 2 **NOW OPEN** 

Post#1091 » by TimeForChange » Sun Jul 13, 2025 12:33 am

Read on Twitter
User avatar
artsncrafts
RealGM
Posts: 22,349
And1: 26,034
Joined: Feb 04, 2013
Location: Shambleland, Ont.
 

Re: Free Agency & Trades Thread 2 **NOW OPEN** 

Post#1092 » by artsncrafts » Sun Jul 13, 2025 12:34 am

bboyskinnylegs wrote:
Zeno wrote:Honestly, it amazes me that draft prospects don’t try to angle themselves to certain teams more aggressively like they used to. 4 years, then trapped in an artificially constrained market.

backlash can be pretty harsh trying to do that as we saw with Ace Bailey


As it should. If players could choose their teams there would be no point in draft or restricted free agency. Miami and the Lakers would have every player. Raptors would be in the worst position in the league :lol:
Harold_and_Kumar wrote:What if the 10 incher was overrated and the 4 incher was too small for any playing time, but the 7 incher was a perfect fit for our roster and the 5 incher was good for specific situations, like backdoor cuts?
Zeno
RealGM
Posts: 24,572
And1: 22,761
Joined: Jun 06, 2001
   

Re: Free Agency & Trades Thread 2 **NOW OPEN** 

Post#1093 » by Zeno » Sun Jul 13, 2025 12:53 am

artsncrafts wrote:
bboyskinnylegs wrote:
Zeno wrote:Honestly, it amazes me that draft prospects don’t try to angle themselves to certain teams more aggressively like they used to. 4 years, then trapped in an artificially constrained market.

backlash can be pretty harsh trying to do that as we saw with Ace Bailey


As it should. If players could choose their teams there would be no point in draft or restricted free agency. Miami and the Lakers would have every player. Raptors would be in the worst position in the league :lol:

I don’t think that is necessarily the case. We’d be probably in the bottom half for most players but I don’t think we’d be the worst place for prospects to go and for certain ones we might even be in the upper half of the league. Rookies have different criteria for prefering one destination over another than established free agents. Who can reasonably blame a prospect for not wanting to go to the Pelicans or the Kings given their track record. It can absolutely derail an entire career.
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

Please advise….

Dan G.
Tor_Raps
RealGM
Posts: 31,917
And1: 46,526
Joined: Oct 14, 2018

Re: Free Agency & Trades Thread 2 **NOW OPEN** 

Post#1094 » by Tor_Raps » Sun Jul 13, 2025 12:58 am

TimeForChange wrote:
Read on Twitter


He becomes the Bucks best perimeter player haha
ArthurVandelay
Head Coach
Posts: 6,512
And1: 6,238
Joined: Feb 10, 2023
 

Re: Free Agency & Trades Thread 2 **NOW OPEN** 

Post#1095 » by ArthurVandelay » Sun Jul 13, 2025 12:58 am

TimeForChange wrote:
Read on Twitter


That is a good get for Milwaukee

He isn’t washed. Far from it.
mihaic
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,548
And1: 3,750
Joined: Jul 05, 2006
   

Re: Free Agency & Trades Thread 2 **NOW OPEN** 

Post#1096 » by mihaic » Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:17 am

CazOnReal wrote:
bboyskinnylegs wrote:so is he back to the Warriors on a qualifying offer or something more?

Qualifying offer has an inherent NTC so I doubt that

The player can always waive the NTC. AFAIK.
mihaic
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,548
And1: 3,750
Joined: Jul 05, 2006
   

Re: Free Agency & Trades Thread 2 **NOW OPEN** 

Post#1097 » by mihaic » Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:20 am

ArthurVandelay wrote:
TimeForChange wrote:
Read on Twitter


That is a good get for Milwaukee

He isn’t washed. Far from it.

If I recall he used to be terrible on D. Is that still the case?
Godaddycurse
RealGM
Posts: 21,746
And1: 13,690
Joined: Nov 13, 2019
 

Re: Free Agency & Trades Thread 2 **NOW OPEN** 

Post#1098 » by Godaddycurse » Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:34 am

mihaic wrote:
ArthurVandelay wrote:
TimeForChange wrote:
Read on Twitter


That is a good get for Milwaukee

He isn’t washed. Far from it.

If I recall he used to be terrible on D. Is that still the case?


he's more reckless and dives at people's legs now for loose ball, does that make him better?
wegotthabeet
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,449
And1: 3,000
Joined: Jun 29, 2021
 

Re: Free Agency & Trades Thread 2 **NOW OPEN** 

Post#1099 » by wegotthabeet » Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:36 am

Pointgod wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=0YpMScWXY2zRUqR8fH-usg


Restricted free agency is so trash.


Agree.

With NIL I think they should raise the draft age, but get rid of restricted free agency.
mihaic
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,548
And1: 3,750
Joined: Jul 05, 2006
   

Re: Free Agency & Trades Thread 2 **NOW OPEN** 

Post#1100 » by mihaic » Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:57 am

wegotthabeet wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=0YpMScWXY2zRUqR8fH-usg


Restricted free agency is so trash.


Agree.

With NIL I think they should raise the draft age, but get rid of restricted free agency.

Rfa helps small market teams, and Raptors.

Return to Toronto Raptors