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Post#921 » by soxperry » Sat Jul 12, 2025 6:20 pm

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As previously reported, Kuminga and his camp are expected to meet with a few different organizations during Summer League. That remains true, yet the tone surrounding Kuminga's future has not changed.

The Sacramento Kings, who have made it known around the league that they are interested in the young forward, were never close to finalizing a sign-and-trade with Golden State, sources said. After finalizing a sign-and-trade with the Detroit Pistons for Dennis Schroder, the Kings are just below $10 million from their first-apron hard cap.

If they were to make a serious push for Kuminga at this stage of the offseason, Sacramento would need to find a way to move either DeMar DeRozan or Malik Monk to open space for a big contract. Nobody believes this is a real path that will develop during Summer League.

Much of the same can be said about the Miami Heat, who never really pursued Kuminga this offseason, sources said. Now that Norman Powell is in South Beach with the Heat hard-capped at the first apron, they are basically out of the Kuminga sweepstakes as well.

To be perfectly clear, no sweepstakes really exists here. The Warriors had hoped there would be a straightforward path to substitute out Kuminga for a young talent and draft assets in a sign-and-trade.

That no longer appears to be the case.


In Kuminga's case, a return to the Warriors continues to be likely. Various high-ranking members of the organization would like Kuminga back, including owner Joe Lacob, sources said. Ultimately, the expectation from rival teams around the NBA is that Kuminga will go back to the Warriors with the mutual understanding that he will be moved before the trade deadline in February.

There isn't a market for him right now, which is why a short-term reunion between Kuminga and the Warriors could be beneficial for both sides.


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Lol so theres gonna be a market in January? Funny
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Post#922 » by ajb905 » Sat Jul 12, 2025 6:21 pm

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ajb905 wrote:Breaking the 31 1st into 3 lesser 1st picks sems like a way to give the team more flexibility in deals. Horst typically gets worked over but could see OKC and maybe Utah pulling something off like that again


We should not do that, cuz our early 30s picks have higher value due to other teams projecting us to suck, & it giving them more perceived leverage in a prospective Giannis trade negotiation. You lose that if you take a few low 1sts like PHX. They should be copying us, not us copying them.


If a move presents itself to upgrade kuzma without having to trade a first (team needs to drop salary), thats great.

But if Trader John gets squeezed into dealing a pick for say a Wiggins or Barrett to get Kuzma off the team, as they want to make a move before the season starts. It'd be much better if it's a 'crappy' first than our 31, keeping some flexibility with other firsts for future moves.

I'd rather keep the powder dry until you can deal for a true difference maker. If our 31 and 32 pic swap gets it, then that should be the priority. Just not sure we can get a Murphy with that (likely need to wait till next season when more picks can be dealt)
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Rollins 3/$12 million, Turner Signs 

Post#923 » by tedbrogen » Sat Jul 12, 2025 6:30 pm

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ajb905 wrote:Breaking the 31 1st into 3 lesser 1st picks sems like a way to give the team more flexibility in deals. Horst typically gets worked over but could see OKC and maybe Utah pulling something off like that again


We should not do that, cuz our early 30s picks have higher value due to other teams projecting us to suck, & it giving them more perceived leverage in a prospective Giannis trade negotiation. You lose that if you take a few low 1sts like PHX. They should be copying us, not us copying them.


If a move presents itself to upgrade kuzma without having to trade a first (team needs to drop salary), thats great.

But if Trader John gets squeezed into dealing a pick for say a Wiggins or Barrett to get Kuzma off the team, as they want to make a move before the season starts. It'd be much better if it's a 'crappy' first than our 31, keeping some flexibility with other firsts for future moves.

I'd rather keep the powder dry until you can deal for a true difference maker. If our 31 and 32 pic swap gets it, then that should be the priority. Just not sure we can get a Murphy with that (likely need to wait till next season when more picks can be dealt)


Alternative idea:
Trade the 31 1st for three lesser firsts now.
Trade those three firsts and 32 swap and Kuz for Murphy.
Dumars probably does that because he can say he got three firsts and a swap for Murphy.
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Post#924 » by soxperry » Sat Jul 12, 2025 6:35 pm

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ajb905 wrote:Breaking the 31 1st into 3 lesser 1st picks sems like a way to give the team more flexibility in deals. Horst typically gets worked over but could see OKC and maybe Utah pulling something off like that again


We should not do that, cuz our early 30s picks have higher value due to other teams projecting us to suck, & it giving them more perceived leverage in a prospective Giannis trade negotiation. You lose that if you take a few low 1sts like PHX. They should be copying us, not us copying them.


If a move presents itself to upgrade kuzma without having to trade a first (team needs to drop salary), thats great.

But if Trader John gets squeezed into dealing a pick for say a Wiggins or Barrett to get Kuzma off the team, as they want to make a move before the season starts. It'd be much better if it's a 'crappy' first than our 31, keeping some flexibility with other firsts for future moves.

I'd rather keep the powder dry until you can deal for a true difference maker. If our 31 and 32 pic swap gets it, then that should be the priority. Just not sure we can get a Murphy with that (likely need to wait till next season when more picks can be dealt)


This is where i hope we have Giannis's patience and understanding.

The Turner move was awesome because hes exactly what we needed in a post-Brook world (not to be confused with 2008 - 2016).

We cant just grab the seemingly most talented player available at all costs. Needs to be right fit and right price.

And ill just add..the Turner signing is proof we can attract a free agent, even one who seemed pretty locked into his situation. I think there are more avenues to getting talent around Giannis going forward than we all assumed possible after Dame
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Post#925 » by MVP2110 » Sat Jul 12, 2025 6:43 pm

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Post#926 » by soxperry » Sat Jul 12, 2025 6:47 pm

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Post#927 » by soxperry » Sat Jul 12, 2025 6:49 pm

If we do a two for one trade then we still have two open spots with Thanasis
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Post#928 » by BigO » Sat Jul 12, 2025 6:57 pm

Kuzma to Portland for two third rounders.
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Post#929 » by StickeeFingaz » Sat Jul 12, 2025 7:06 pm

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Post#930 » by soxperry » Sat Jul 12, 2025 7:21 pm

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Its only available to paid Stein Line subscribers
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Post#931 » by WeMajor34 » Sat Jul 12, 2025 7:22 pm

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It’s just reiterating our interest in Beal and CP. Nothing new unfortunately.
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Post#932 » by Frank Nova » Sat Jul 12, 2025 7:26 pm

BigO wrote:Kuzma to Portland for two third rounders.


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Post#933 » by TroyD92 » Sat Jul 12, 2025 7:26 pm

I'd trade kuzma for one of those cool sweaters he wears
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Post#934 » by mke_design » Sat Jul 12, 2025 7:41 pm

Why does it always have to be worded like Giannis is making some big decision. It sells?
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Post#935 » by Frank Nova » Sat Jul 12, 2025 8:42 pm

mke_design wrote:Why does it always have to be worded like Giannis is making some big decision. It sells?


What’s even better is that it’s worded in a way that would lead you to believe the Bucks are waiting for an okay from Giannis before they resign his brother. It’s just always backhanded from these clowns, makes no sense at all.
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Post#936 » by tedbrogen » Sat Jul 12, 2025 9:17 pm

When TA signs a one year min, they’ll post articles pontificating if GA is upset they only gave his bro a one year deal at the min while they gave Turner four years at $27M and maybe that will make GA demand a trade.
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Post#937 » by tedbrogen » Sat Jul 12, 2025 9:19 pm

In other words, don’t give the clicks to Stein or Shams or ESPN or any of the clowns that need your clicks for ad revenue.
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Post#938 » by c00lhand208 » Sat Jul 12, 2025 9:46 pm

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c00lhand208 wrote:
His shooting has improved every season and reached extremely good levels down the stretch last season. I don’t think his shooting is such a concern that he isn’t considered a fit. And his wing defense has steadily improved too with added strength; plus, his perimeter D has always been solid enough too. Dude’s only 22 and has consistently improved his game every season and his playmaking would be incredibly welcomed on this team. IMO, he’s one of the most ideal targets for the Bucks. Definitely worth the ‘31 1st.


You aren’t getting Giddey for Kuzma and the 2031 1st. I wish we could, but not happening. Even if he is far from perfect, Derozan is a much more reasonable option. But I don’t think SAC is trading him straight up.


So what do you think it would take to get Giddey then ?


If possible, it’d probably require Bulls ownership & FO not wanting to sign Josh to a contract that starts over $22-23M this year, ownership valuing the high potential gamble on Bucks ‘31 & ‘32 1sts (‘32 via swap); plus, they may demand inclusion on the Bucks ‘26, ‘28, & ‘30 1st swaps as the 2nd fiddle in a cascading swap scenario. Bucks could create an opportunity for a potential sign & trade by being in discussions w/ Josh’s team regarding what they’d be happy to pay him (if it’s more) which I imagine is probably somewhere in the $25-27M range.
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Post#939 » by tedbrogen » Sat Jul 12, 2025 10:20 pm

Is Giddey worth $25M+ per season? Is he playable on the court with GA assuming GA has the ball in his hands so Giddey has to consistently make threes? Is Giddey good or better on D? Could they use his playmaking to get shots for others when GA is off the floor (so he’s a second or third creator)? Is he the long term solution at SF?

If the answer to all this is yes, then sure use Kuz and whatever picks in a S&T. You won’t need the picks anyways if you have your SF of the future because then you already have long term answers at SF, PF (GA), C (Turner), SG (AJG), and maybe PG (KPJ), along with some nice bench pieces (Bobby, Sims, Rollins, GTJ). And you have bird rights to keep anyone hitting FA soon.

This team is a legit SF away from contention.
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Post#940 » by Licensed to Il » Sat Jul 12, 2025 10:27 pm

I love Giddey’s game, but its not an optimal fit here, IMO. If we’re going to empty the war chest, I think it needs to be for Reaves or Vassell.

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