Best rookie scale contract player for Reaves?

[scoobs07]

What is the best player on a rookie scale contract that Lakers could get for Austin Reaves?

Needs to be rookie scale for this season and next at the very least (so drafted no later than 2023). The reasoning for this is because Lakers are focused on capspace in 2027. Reaves will likely be on close 15-20% cap in that offseason.

Some buyers remorse here?

What happened to “Reaves is untouchable”?

That changed quick!

Was reaves untouchable or only being traded for a great fit?

Think most laker fans would trade him but not give him away.

Lakers fans seem to get too clingy with certain players. Most NBA fans seem to also do that. NBA is a players' league. They don't wear helmets. Fans become obsessed with the players and oftentimes become fans of the players over the teams. I'm old school, I root for the name on the front of the jersey, not the back.

[hugepatsfan]

Not rookie scale but Hauser/Pritchard/pick(s)? Not the upside of a rookie scale guy but just throwing it out there anyway. Most of the guys listed so far are kind of reclamation projects so it’s balance of stable role players vs upside that may be realized but also bottom falling out.

[kobe_vs_jordan]

Some buyers remorse here?

What happened to “Reaves is untouchable”?

That changed quick!

Was reaves untouchable or only being traded for a great fit?

Think most laker fans would trade him but not give him away.

Lakers fans seem to get too clingy with certain players. Most NBA fans seem to also do that. NBA is a players' league. They don't wear helmets. Fans become obsessed with the players and oftentimes become fans of the players over the teams. I'm old school, I root for the name on the front of the jersey, not the back.

Lakers fans too entitled imo lol i only care about LeBron and Luka status on the roster.

The others i support bc they got a laker jersey on.

[kobe_vs_jordan]

Not rookie scale but Hauser/Pritchard/pick(s)? Not the upside of a rookie scale guy but just throwing it out there anyway. Most of the guys listed so far are kind of reclamation projects so it’s balance of stable role players vs upside that may be realized but also bottom falling out.

Wouldn’t be opposed from my end. Think turning Reaves into good depth is fine too

[zimpy27]

What is the best player on a rookie scale contract that Lakers could get for Austin Reaves?

Needs to be rookie scale for this season and next at the very least (so drafted no later than 2023). The reasoning for this is because Lakers are focused on capspace in 2027. Reaves will likely be on close 15-20% cap in that offseason.

Some buyers remorse here?

What happened to “Reaves is untouchable”?

That changed quick!

Reaves isn't untouchable, neither is Luka.

But maybe there is some value worth trading him for, so far no one has come close to what would be worth trading him for.

[schaffy]

What is the best player on a rookie scale contract that Lakers could get for Austin Reaves?

Needs to be rookie scale for this season and next at the very least (so drafted no later than 2023). The reasoning for this is because Lakers are focused on capspace in 2027. Reaves will likely be on close 15-20% cap in that offseason.

Some buyers remorse here?

What happened to “Reaves is untouchable”?

That changed quick!

It’s not buyers remorse. Reaves provided amazing value on his current contract, it’s more “maximize his value while he’s cheap” exploratory trade that someone like Danny Ainge messed up on in not trading Lauri when he was on his ultra cheap deal before his 30% max. The moment Reaves gets a 25-30m a year deal, he’s no longer a “steal”. Imagine if the cheap 4th year was a team instead of player option, Reaves value would be immense.

The time to maximize his value in a trade has likely come and gone. At this point he's an expiring contract that he won't extend off of. So trading for him is a 1 year value contract before he becomes a FA and then you get to face the open market to retain him.

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[SlimShady83]

What is the best player on a rookie scale contract that Lakers could get for Austin Reaves?

Needs to be rookie scale for this season and next at the very least (so drafted no later than 2023). The reasoning for this is because Lakers are focused on capspace in 2027. Reaves will likely be on close 15-20% cap in that offseason.

Some buyers remorse here?

What happened to “Reaves is untouchable”?

That changed quick!

Reaves has never been untouchable, not even once. It's just that Lakers have said they "won't" trade Reaves unless it's a top tier center is involved.
That said now we got both Luka and Ayton who knows what unfolds for Reaves?. (edit) and no i'm not saying Ayton is top tier lols.

[Vae Victus]

Reaves still has great value to the lakers. While ideally you’d want him to be able to defend at a high level, he can at least score at a fairly high level and provide secondary facilitation behind a staggered Luka/Lebron rotation.

If the Lakers can’t trade Reaves for greater value or fit, they’ll happily roll with him and hope for the best.

[zimpy27]

Not rookie scale but Hauser/Pritchard/pick(s)? Not the upside of a rookie scale guy but just throwing it out there anyway. Most of the guys listed so far are kind of reclamation projects so it’s balance of stable role players vs upside that may be realized but also bottom falling out.

Same concept, that's decent.

[Airgordon00]

Lakers get Jalen Suggs, Wendell Carter jr., Johnathan Isaac and Anthony Black.

Magic get LeBron James, Austin Reaves and Bronny James.

Lakers get defense to build around Luka and get out of the Bron situation.

Magic go all in on chip this year.

[Mavrelous]

Interesting to me if Reaves still thinks he should build on getting more than the extension with what's going on with Giddey and how small guards were treated this off season, I'd be having 2nd thoughts if I was him.

[Vae Victus]

Interesting to me if Reaves still thinks he should build on getting more than the extension with what's going on with Giddey and how small guards were treated this off season, I'd be having 2nd thoughts if I was him.

Him and his agent 100% should have that in the back of his head. Clearly the upper middle class of players in the NBA are gonna take a massive beating under the new 2nd Apron era. If you're not a clear all star level player and able to provide solid value on both sides of the court, it's hard to expect to get more than 15% of the cap. Gone are the days when tweener gunners like CJ McCollum, Tyler Herro, Bradley Beal, etc will be given "max" deals as a matter of course. It's basically have 2 worthy max cap guys eating 25-35% of the cap each, 2 elite roleplayers who ideally are 2way players making 10-15% of the cap each, rookie deals, exceptions, and min contracts rounding out the rest of the roster.

A good blue print of a team salary allocation for a contender operating from a clean cap would be something like

Superstar - Luka Doncic 30% of cap veteran max (10 year vet eligible for 35%)
2Way All Star - Jalen Williams 25% rookie max
Elite 2Way Role Player - Ivica Zubac 13% of cap
2Way Role Player - Dorian Finney Smith 9% of cap
Solid Role Player - Obi Toppin 9% of cap
2-3 Rookie contracts
NTMLE
BAE
2-3 Vet Mins
2 2way contracts

The more you can stack up defenders to cover for your superstars and have well rounded skillsets, the more difficult it will be to stop your squad in the playoffs.

[zimpy27]

Interesting to me if Reaves still thinks he should build on getting more than the extension with what's going on with Giddey and how small guards were treated this off season, I'd be having 2nd thoughts if I was him.

Different case for RFAs, they get screwed a bit because teams don't ont want to bother tying their money up.

But also, really no one has capspace this offseason, which is different to next offseason. Little leverage.

I think Reaves could probably get a similar deal to Giddey tbh.

[Astaluego]

Eason?...Adams+Eason for Reaves

I'm not sure if Houston owes value? The Rockets secure their 1/2 long-term... plus they could pay him with FVV virtually expiring + Adams' money. Eason has to go soon anyway, and in my opinion, it's more justified for Houston to pay a guard than another wing.

Amen/Reaves/KD/Smith/Sengun+Sheppard/DFS/Capela


The LAKERS are getting the young wing defender as a running mate for Luka.

[zimpy27]

Eason?...Adams+Eason for Reaves

I'm not sure if Houston owes value? The Rockets secure their 1/2 long-term... plus they could pay him with FVV virtually expiring + Adams' money. Eason has to go soon anyway, and in my opinion, it's more justified for Houston to pay a guard than another wing.

Amen/Reaves/KD/Smith/Sengun+Sheppard/DFS/Capela


The LAKERS are getting the young wing defender as a running mate for Luka.

Not sure if these 2 teams wa t to risk making each other better

But yeah it makes sense. Eason getting squeezed out by DFS, Jabari, Durant

[brackdan70]

Not rookie scale but Hauser/Pritchard/pick(s)? Not the upside of a rookie scale guy but just throwing it out there anyway. Most of the guys listed so far are kind of reclamation projects so it’s balance of stable role players vs upside that may be realized but also bottom falling out.

Wouldn’t picks be going the other way. Pritchard is better than Reaves. And a higher value trade asset. Are saying Hauser is severely negative?

[wemby]

Not rookie scale but Hauser/Pritchard/pick(s)? Not the upside of a rookie scale guy but just throwing it out there anyway. Most of the guys listed so far are kind of reclamation projects so it’s balance of stable role players vs upside that may be realized but also bottom falling out.

Wouldn’t picks be going the other way. Pritchard is better than Reaves. And a higher value trade asset. Are saying Hauser is severely negative?

I strongly disagree that Pritchard is better than Reaves, but if we're talking trade value, then an expiring Reaves expecting to get paid is definitely not worth both Pritchard and Hauser on good contracts, plus picks.

PS: I'm definitely interested in Hauser for the Spurs at the right price.

[brackdan70]

Not rookie scale but Hauser/Pritchard/pick(s)? Not the upside of a rookie scale guy but just throwing it out there anyway. Most of the guys listed so far are kind of reclamation projects so it’s balance of stable role players vs upside that may be realized but also bottom falling out.

Wouldn’t picks be going the other way. Pritchard is better than Reaves. And a higher value trade asset. Are saying Hauser is severely negative?

I strongly disagree that Pritchard is better than Reaves, but if we're talking trade value, then an expiring Reaves expecting to get paid is definitely not worth both Pritchard and Hauser on good contracts, plus picks.

PS: I'm definitely interested in Hauser for the Spurs at the right price.

Fair enough on Pritchard vs Reaves. I think Reaves is a more attractive archetype, due to his size, on court impact though Pritchard has better. I can respect liking Reaves more. Trade value though, spot on.
What’s your Hauser to spurs price?
I think he is a positive value for sure, but probably not a FRP.

[K_chile22]

Eason?...Adams+Eason for Reaves

I'm not sure if Houston owes value? The Rockets secure their 1/2 long-term... plus they could pay him with FVV virtually expiring + Adams' money. Eason has to go soon anyway, and in my opinion, it's more justified for Houston to pay a guard than another wing.

Amen/Reaves/KD/Smith/Sengun+Sheppard/DFS/Capela


The LAKERS are getting the young wing defender as a running mate for Luka.

Not sure if these 2 teams wa t to risk making each other better

But yeah it makes sense. Eason getting squeezed out by DFS, Jabari, Durant

No one is getting squeezed out, they have a 9 man rotation still, guys will be playing up and down the positional spectrum. I would not trade Eason for expiring Reaves, maybe before the Durant trade but not after