Summer League Game 1 Knicks v Pistons 6:00 PM Eastern Time July 11

[Luv those Knicks]

WRONG. Tokyo Drift played the last 1:31 of the game! He made at least one good pass and seemed to have decent court arareness. He didn't play long enough to make any difference. OTOH, his hair was good so he could contend for the Sims good hair role.

I also thought Diawara "looked" good, moved well, looked fast and strong, and seemed better than his numbers. Huk was ok, Pac Dadi scored a bunch, McCuller was OK but not great, and Dink Pate has incredible energy, lenght, but won't play util he finds a shot. Kolek was far worse than last season. The announcing was also a very poor SL level. They spend a whole quarter on how great Detroit will be and didn't mention the game. Once a Knick, always a Knick, except for Greg Anthony.

We all need to keep in mind that SL is often highly misleading. Some SL stars couldn't make the big team and that guy with the Mavs, Jalen B, stunk in SL.

Oh I thought that was somebody's name. Who are we calling that?

Yudai Baba is Tokyo Drift!

They call him that for his "Thunderous" dunks - like he shakes the building he dunks so hard. And he's like 6'5 or 6'6, so he's not big.

He also has good 3 pt shooting too, so I hope to see more of him. I missed the last 90 seconds, but maybe I can catch it on rewind. The downside is he's 29, so he's not exactly a prospect, but I'd like to see him play more in SL.

[Gravy]

Last year Knicks were 3-2 with Dice Yoshimoto coaching. We never got blown out in the losses

You're right, but Detroit just looked like the better team. Ron Holland played like an all-star and he might be a good NBA starter or 6th man type this year. We don't have anyone like that on our summer league roster. The Pistons played defense all game and the early steals were just embarrassing. They came ready to take advantage and we weren't ready.

The Pistons shot 15 for 33 from 3 so they had the outside shooting advantage too. We shot 6 for 27 from 3, though they strated to land a few in the 4th. The Knicks started out 2 for 18 from 3 and finished 4 out of their last 9.

Di's (I'm going to call him Di unless anyone objects), Di's Half-court heave at the end of the 3rd hitting nothing but net was a thing of beauty.

My point is, they had the best player on the court and it wasn't close and they hit their 3s and we didn't, and they can ready to play. Blowouts happen sometimes. I wouldn't read too much into it.

Big question is how they play next game. If they fix some of the mistakes. I don't think this team will ever rain 3s, but they can play better.

During the season and playoffs Knicks fans were saying our rookies were good and deserved a lot of consistent playing time when Ron Holland averaged less than 7 minutes in the playoffs so he's not some great bench player. On the Pistons he was the 13th guy in minutes, that's far from being a starter. So their 13th guy is destroying almost our whole bench by himself, showing us just how bad our bench really is. Kolek got hyped up like the next Steve Nash was getting overlooked, where was he?

I agree its just one sl game. Give them a pass for that to shake the rust off and implement the new system for game 2.

[Gravy]

Seeing a few people freak out about Summer League performances.

This one made me laugh:

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Mentality is crazy but he might still be here if he hated Thibs and Randle this much. He's guilty of having all the wrong board opinions

[thebuzzardman]

Seeing a few people freak out about Summer League performances.

This one made me laugh:

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My man NYmentality!!!!

[HarthorneWingo]

Holland and Klintman wreaking havoc 5 steals in 5 mins

Mike Brown call a timeout wtf are you doing they killing us

Those 3 Kolek turnovers in the 1st quarter were impressive. I can see why people here demanded he get playoff minutes in crunch time.

[Luv those Knicks]

Last year Knicks were 3-2 with Dice Yoshimoto coaching. We never got blown out in the losses

You're right, but Detroit just looked like the better team. Ron Holland played like an all-star and he might be a good NBA starter or 6th man type this year. We don't have anyone like that on our summer league roster. The Pistons played defense all game and the early steals were just embarrassing. They came ready to take advantage and we weren't ready.

The Pistons shot 15 for 33 from 3 so they had the outside shooting advantage too. We shot 6 for 27 from 3, though they strated to land a few in the 4th. The Knicks started out 2 for 18 from 3 and finished 4 out of their last 9.

Di's (I'm going to call him Di unless anyone objects), Di's Half-court heave at the end of the 3rd hitting nothing but net was a thing of beauty.

My point is, they had the best player on the court and it wasn't close and they hit their 3s and we didn't, and they can ready to play. Blowouts happen sometimes. I wouldn't read too much into it.

Big question is how they play next game. If they fix some of the mistakes. I don't think this team will ever rain 3s, but they can play better.

During the season and playoffs Knicks fans were saying our rookies were good and deserved a lot of consistent playing time when Ron Holland averaged less than 7 minutes in the playoffs so he's not some great bench player. On the Pistons he was the 13th guy in minutes, that's far from being a starter. So their 13th guy is destroying almost our whole bench by himself, showing us just how bad our bench really is. Kolek got hyped up like the next Steve Nash was getting overlooked, where was he?

I agree its just one sl game. Give them a pass for that to shake the rust off and implement the new system for game 2.

You're right, and looking like an all-star in summer league means almost nothing. That said, I wouldn't be shocked if Holland became a legit 6th man of the year candidate this coming season. Some players can show significant improvement going into year two.

[HarthorneWingo]

I'm going to lie to myself and tell myself that these players will look better in a more structured environment.

More structured? Thibs isn’t coach anymore. Now we a players’ coach! No structure. Leon and the players will figure it all out and then tell Brown.

[HarthorneWingo]

Last year Knicks were 3-2 with Dice Yoshimoto coaching. We never got blown out in the losses

You're right, but Detroit just looked like the better team. Ron Holland played like an all-star and he might be a good NBA starter or 6th man type this year. We don't have anyone like that on our summer league roster. The Pistons played defense all game and the early steals were just embarrassing. They came ready to take advantage and we weren't ready.

The Pistons shot 15 for 33 from 3 so they had the outside shooting advantage too. We shot 6 for 27 from 3, though they strated to land a few in the 4th. The Knicks started out 2 for 18 from 3 and finished 4 out of their last 9.

Di's (I'm going to call him Di unless anyone objects), Di's Half-court heave at the end of the 3rd hitting nothing but net was a thing of beauty.

My point is, they had the best player on the court and it wasn't close and they hit their 3s and we didn't, and they can ready to play. Blowouts happen sometimes. I wouldn't read too much into it.

Big question is how they play next game. If they fix some of the mistakes. I don't think this team will ever rain 3s, but they can play better.

During the season and playoffs Knicks fans were saying our rookies were good and deserved a lot of consistent playing time when Ron Holland averaged less than 7 minutes in the playoffs so he's not some great bench player. On the Pistons he was the 13th guy in minutes, that's far from being a starter. So their 13th guy is destroying almost our whole bench by himself, showing us just how bad our bench really is. Kolek got hyped up like the next Steve Nash was getting overlooked, where was he?

I agree it’s just one sl game. Give them a pass for that to shake the rust off and implement the new system for game 2.

The people who demanded that we play the rookies in the playoffs are off their rockers. Thibs was right.

Yes, time for a new system!

[thebuzzardman]

You're right, but Detroit just looked like the better team. Ron Holland played like an all-star and he might be a good NBA starter or 6th man type this year. We don't have anyone like that on our summer league roster. The Pistons played defense all game and the early steals were just embarrassing. They came ready to take advantage and we weren't ready.

The Pistons shot 15 for 33 from 3 so they had the outside shooting advantage too. We shot 6 for 27 from 3, though they strated to land a few in the 4th. The Knicks started out 2 for 18 from 3 and finished 4 out of their last 9.

Di's (I'm going to call him Di unless anyone objects), Di's Half-court heave at the end of the 3rd hitting nothing but net was a thing of beauty.

My point is, they had the best player on the court and it wasn't close and they hit their 3s and we didn't, and they can ready to play. Blowouts happen sometimes. I wouldn't read too much into it.

Big question is how they play next game. If they fix some of the mistakes. I don't think this team will ever rain 3s, but they can play better.

During the season and playoffs Knicks fans were saying our rookies were good and deserved a lot of consistent playing time when Ron Holland averaged less than 7 minutes in the playoffs so he's not some great bench player. On the Pistons he was the 13th guy in minutes, that's far from being a starter. So their 13th guy is destroying almost our whole bench by himself, showing us just how bad our bench really is. Kolek got hyped up like the next Steve Nash was getting overlooked, where was he?

I agree it’s just one sl game. Give them a pass for that to shake the rust off and implement the new system for game 2.

The people who demanded that we play the rookies in the playoffs are off their rockers. Thibs was right.

Yes, time for a new system!

Thibs wouldn't play the vets on the bench either.

Both can be true. The rookies/2nd year guys basically suck; Thibs was stubborn and overplayed the starters.

[Luv those Knicks]

During the season and playoffs Knicks fans were saying our rookies were good and deserved a lot of consistent playing time when Ron Holland averaged less than 7 minutes in the playoffs so he's not some great bench player. On the Pistons he was the 13th guy in minutes, that's far from being a starter. So their 13th guy is destroying almost our whole bench by himself, showing us just how bad our bench really is. Kolek got hyped up like the next Steve Nash was getting overlooked, where was he?

I agree it’s just one sl game. Give them a pass for that to shake the rust off and implement the new system for game 2.

The people who demanded that we play the rookies in the playoffs are off their rockers. Thibs was right.

Yes, time for a new system!

Thibs wouldn't play the vets on the bench either.

Both can be true. The rookies/2nd year guys basically suck; Thibs was stubborn and overplayed the starters.

I think there's truth to both arguments.

When the first players off our bench were McBride, Precious, Shamet & Huk . . . before Mitch got back, that's a thin bench. Still, Thibs could have played back-end of the bench more, especially during the season, at least in games where we were comfortably up or down by a lot. Not just to give the vets a little rest, but also because fans wanted to see Kolek & Dadiet.

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[Gravy]

The people who demanded that we play the rookies in the playoffs are off their rockers. Thibs was right.

Yes, time for a new system!

Thibs wouldn't play the vets on the bench either.

Both can be true. The rookies/2nd year guys basically suck; Thibs was stubborn and overplayed the starters.

I think there's truth to both arguments.

When the first players off our bench were McBride, Precious, Shamet & Huk . . . before Mitch got back, that's a thin bench. Still, Thibs could have played back-end of the bench more, especially during the season, at least in games where we were comfortably up or down by a lot. Not just to give the vets a little rest, but also because fans wanted to see Kolek & Dadiet.

eh, I dont believe the difference between us winning a championship was more Delon Wright. No other team has even signed him yet..

[Adelheid]

The people who demanded that we play the rookies in the playoffs are off their rockers. Thibs was right.

Yes, time for a new system!

Thibs wouldn't play the vets on the bench either.

Both can be true. The rookies/2nd year guys basically suck; Thibs was stubborn and overplayed the starters.

I think there's truth to both arguments.

When the first players off our bench were McBride, Precious, Shamet & Huk . . . before Mitch got back, that's a thin bench. Still, Thibs could have played back-end of the bench more, especially during the season, at least in games where we were comfortably up or down by a lot. Not just to give the vets a little rest, but also because fans wanted to see Kolek & Dadiet.

i would have greatly appreciated it if thibs mixed some of the decent starters with the bench guys. that alone would have changed my perception of him

staggering lineups doesnt seem to exist at all in his mind or he is trying to pick a fight with the FO with his stubborness and **** lineups

[Jeff Van Gully]

Thibs wouldn't play the vets on the bench either.

Both can be true. The rookies/2nd year guys basically suck; Thibs was stubborn and overplayed the starters.

I think there's truth to both arguments.

When the first players off our bench were McBride, Precious, Shamet & Huk . . . before Mitch got back, that's a thin bench. Still, Thibs could have played back-end of the bench more, especially during the season, at least in games where we were comfortably up or down by a lot. Not just to give the vets a little rest, but also because fans wanted to see Kolek & Dadiet.

i would have greatly appreciated it if thibs mixed some of the decent starters with the bench guys. that alone would have changed my perception of him

staggering lineups doesnt seem to exist at all in his mind or he is trying to pick a fight with the FO with his stubborness and **** lineups

[Adelheid]

I think there's truth to both arguments.

When the first players off our bench were McBride, Precious, Shamet & Huk . . . before Mitch got back, that's a thin bench. Still, Thibs could have played back-end of the bench more, especially during the season, at least in games where we were comfortably up or down by a lot. Not just to give the vets a little rest, but also because fans wanted to see Kolek & Dadiet.

i would have greatly appreciated it if thibs mixed some of the decent starters with the bench guys. that alone would have changed my perception of him

staggering lineups doesnt seem to exist at all in his mind or he is trying to pick a fight with the FO with his stubborness and **** lineups

gyahahahaha *stares at thread name*....sorry about that. deffo needs to align back to topic

dadiet looked effortlessly smooth and composed out there. want to see him get some burn in the rs rotation

good to see huk moving very well after recovering from the meniscus tear

kolek really needs to do better than that. that was really fugly

[HarthorneWingo]

During the season and playoffs Knicks fans were saying our rookies were good and deserved a lot of consistent playing time when Ron Holland averaged less than 7 minutes in the playoffs so he's not some great bench player. On the Pistons he was the 13th guy in minutes, that's far from being a starter. So their 13th guy is destroying almost our whole bench by himself, showing us just how bad our bench really is. Kolek got hyped up like the next Steve Nash was getting overlooked, where was he?

I agree it’s just one sl game. Give them a pass for that to shake the rust off and implement the new system for game 2.

The people who demanded that we play the rookies in the playoffs are off their rockers. Thibs was right.

Yes, time for a new system!

Thibs wouldn't play the vets on the bench either.

Both can be true. The rookies/2nd year guys basically suck; Thibs was stubborn and overplayed the starters.

Cam Pain?

[HarthorneWingo]

Thibs wouldn't play the vets on the bench either.

Both can be true. The rookies/2nd year guys basically suck; Thibs was stubborn and overplayed the starters.

I think there's truth to both arguments.

When the first players off our bench were McBride, Precious, Shamet & Huk . . . before Mitch got back, that's a thin bench. Still, Thibs could have played back-end of the bench more, especially during the season, at least in games where we were comfortably up or down by a lot. Not just to give the vets a little rest, but also because fans wanted to see Kolek & Dadiet.

i would have greatly appreciated it if thibs mixed some of the decent starters with the bench guys. that alone would have changed my perception of him

staggering lineups doesnt seem to exist at all in his mind or he is trying to pick a fight with the FO with his stubborness and **** lineups

Changing you perspective on him? So you think we would’ve won more games if we played Cam Payne more?

[8516knicks]

Saw the highlights. Disappointed in Kolek for some bad passes early. Not much to show even to excite Westchester fans. Pistons's SL team looks awesome (against us). We have a lot of million dollar eggs in 6-7 baskets. Let's hope all hatch before breaking.

[8516knicks]

Thibs wouldn't play the vets on the bench either.

Both can be true. The rookies/2nd year guys basically suck; Thibs was stubborn and overplayed the starters.

I think there's truth to both arguments.

When the first players off our bench were McBride, Precious, Shamet & Huk . . . before Mitch got back, that's a thin bench. Still, Thibs could have played back-end of the bench more, especially during the season, at least in games where we were comfortably up or down by a lot. Not just to give the vets a little rest, but also because fans wanted to see Kolek & Dadiet.

eh, I dont believe the difference between us winning a championship was more Delon Wright. No other team has even signed him yet..

The difference was Halli's bounce on that last shot. That shot got them in the finals.

[Ravenxvirall]

Seeing a few people freak out about Summer League performances.

This one made me laugh:

Read on Twitter

My man NYmentality!!!!

Lmao this is the dude I got compared to when i first started posting????? **** y’all then LMAO