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Re: Summer League 2025 

Post#101 » by GEE » Sat Jul 12, 2025 9:19 pm

To say the least (for now), Yang was impressive and far exceeded most everyone's expectations in his first outing... can't wait to see him again.

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Love was impressive and looks at first glance, to be a keeper as 3rd PG. Rupert and Cissoko also had nice showings. Alot to like, and again, can't wait for the next one.

As far as the starting lineup, I can see how the depth chart shown is ripe for critique, but overall we shouldn't feel like what's shown is locked in by any means. Balancing out the strength of our defense with our need to still score points is the main reason I think Sharpe should start. I think he's ready to blow up, and will make a big name for himself this year.

Grant possibly starting is the other obvious rub, but I'd be fine with it Day one. I just look at it like Grant is the 3 and Deni is the 4. If Jrue starts at PG (until Scoot is ready) it changes the traditional look immediately, as Jrue looks to be the 3rd ball handler over Deni and Sharpe. When Scoot comes in for instant offense, he'll be paired with both Camara and Thybulle which in my opinion would be a good offset of offense and defense. And so when Scoot is ready to start over a defensive stud like Jrue, I would likely then be wanting Camara to start, and I would not be shocked if Grant is playing in a different zipcde when that time comes.

Just move a player or two around on the chart a little bit and we should all feel better. I'm certain we will see plenty throughout the season playing 9-10 guys each night with a feverish pace for 48 minutes anyway. Point should be IMO, we clearly have a very good 10 man rotation now... and some. My main point is that balancing out both youth (Sharpe/Scoot) along with offense and defensive strenght will be key for Chauncey this year. Who starts matters, but the chemistry and pressure for 48 minutes every single night is what's exciting to me.
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Re: Summer League 2025 

Post#102 » by dunlop212 » Sun Jul 13, 2025 12:29 am

I think that part of why people enjoyed the Yang debut was the style he plays. It made me remember how much I enjoyed basketball before the 3-point stuff got out of control.
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Post#103 » by Walton1one » Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:11 am

Yang makes Clingan look athletic & fast, he can definitely pass, not sure that is the most important thing you want from your center though, pretty gravity bound & his conditioning was awful, had trouble just getting b/t FT lines in a timely manner

Interested to see how he performs vs MEM tonight, that GS SL team might have been one of the worst SL teams I have ever seen. Was there one NBA player on that entire roster?

Who were the best players? Toohey? Armstrong? Yikes

POR media & fans can’t help themselves from overreacting though, memories of Qyntel Woods & Jerryd Bayless come to mind, they were both SL MVP’s though…
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Post#104 » by dckingsfan » Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:21 am

Walton1one wrote:Yang makes Clingan look athletic & fast, he can definitely pass, not sure that is the most important thing you want from your center though, pretty gravity bound & his conditioning was awful, had trouble just getting b/t FT lines in a timely manner

Interested to see how he performs vs MEM tonight, that GS SL team might have been one of the worst SL teams I have ever seen. Was there one NBA player on that entire roster?

Who were the best players? Toohey? Armstrong? Yikes

POR media & fans can’t help themselves from overreacting though, memories of Qyntel Woods & Jerryd Bayless come to mind, they were both SL MVP’s though…

I would definitely say that Yang needs physical development. I am "guessing" a couple of years of NBA level conditioning will change his body. But that gravity bound body got three blocks and he was close on a few others. Is he NBA ready now - I don't think so, at least watching the play.

But yeah, it is summer league. Don't get too high but it is also okay to see the glimpses of who a player might become.
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Re: Summer League 2025 

Post#105 » by Moonbeam » Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:33 am

Yeah summer league is even less telling than preseason, IMO, but it was good to see Yang show out a bit all the same! That first assist had me grinning.
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Post#106 » by Walton1one » Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:44 am

I mean Beringer has only 4 years of playing basketball and had 6 blocks in his first game of SL and they were much more impressive in nature and his mobility was eye opening. Yang’s passing was good, but the rest? Not so good
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Post#107 » by zzaj » Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:49 am

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zzaj wrote:One thing to consider is that the Blazer offense runs zero post up sets, and last night they didn’t run a single post set for Yang.

Nearly every time he touched the ball it was in that 5-out delayed action with the big at the top of the key. It was pretty clearly intentional. One of my big complaints about the Blazer offense last year was there was very little effective off-ball screening…especially North/South. Hopefully, what we saw last night is an indicator for some more interesting offense next season.

I doubt we’re going to see Yang post ups anytime soon.

Agreed. It will take Yang at least 2 years to move from the high post to the low post. Guessing the same is true with Clingan? The development of both is going to be soooo key for the Blazers over the next two years. But I can see the "why" of going with Yang. Of course, there might have been someone at 11 that turns out to be really good - so there is that.


My point was that there’s a chance we’ll NEVER really see Yang in the low post, or Clingan for that matter. It’s something the current Blazer offense simply doesn’t run, and for pretty good reason in the modern NBA. It basically kills all high percentage shots at the rim, allows defenses to be set 100% of the time, and if you’re team is not shooting 40%+ from 3 every night, you’re not going to win.

We might see it here and there in special situations, but if the team wants to optimize players like Deni, Sharpe, Scoot, and Camara…I doubt we’re going to see much direct posting up.
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Post#108 » by Walton1one » Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:01 am

Yeah but that is not conducive to actually winning meaningful (playoff) games. I listened to Billups drone on about pushing the ball, which can work in the regular season but in the playoffs you need to execute in the 1/2 court which this team as currently constructed is completely incapable of
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Post#109 » by zzaj » Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:14 am

Nique killing it in this SL. Looks like he has good starter potential in the NBA. Wish the Blazers would have made a play for him…
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Post#110 » by zzaj » Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:21 am

Walton1one wrote:Yeah but that is not conducive to actually winning meaningful (playoff) games. I listened to Billups drone on about pushing the ball, which can work in the regular season but in the playoffs you need to execute in the 1/2 court which this team as currently constructed is completely incapable of


Well, that’s a bigger conversation and is largely dependent on roster. Most teams’ slow down offense, including Denver, Boston, Knicks, etc…is still some variation of 5 out and DHOs.

If Sharpe and Scoot take the next steps in self-creation, the team will be fine. But you won’t want Clingan or Yang and their defender clogging up the middle, in that case.
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Post#111 » by BlazersBroncos » Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:27 am

zzaj wrote:Nique killing it in this SL. Looks like he has good starter potential in the NBA. Wish the Blazers would have made a play for him…


He is about 23.5 years old. He should be killing the SL.

Think he will make a nice role player but the cost to get back in R1 would have likely been the ORL 28 UNP FRP and no way I pay that for Nique.
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Post#112 » by zzaj » Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:49 am

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zzaj wrote:Nique killing it in this SL. Looks like he has good starter potential in the NBA. Wish the Blazers would have made a play for him…


He is about 23.5 years old. He should be killing the SL.

Think he will make a nice role player but the cost to get back in R1 would have likely been the ORL 28 UNP FRP and no way I pay that for Nique.


Orlando is going to be good for a while…that pick is likely in the late 20s-early 30s. I’d think about it for Nique. Lotta Broy in his game.
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Post#113 » by zzaj » Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:50 am

What is the hold up on tip? Is ESPN really going to wait 30-45 minutes for the Lakers game to end?

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Re: Summer League 2025 

Post#114 » by Black and Blue » Sun Jul 13, 2025 3:15 am

Let’s go Yang! Show the Grizz they should have used that 11 pick on you instead of Coward! :lol:
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Post#115 » by The Sebastian Express » Sun Jul 13, 2025 3:24 am

zzaj wrote:What is the hold up on tip? Is ESPN really going to wait 30-45 minutes for the Lakers game to end?

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There's only two arenas they're playing the games at. They had to wait for the Lakers game to end because the other game in progress started at 7PM and was still in the first half.
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Post#116 » by zzaj » Sun Jul 13, 2025 3:36 am

The Sebastian Express wrote:
zzaj wrote:What is the hold up on tip? Is ESPN really going to wait 30-45 minutes for the Lakers game to end?

Thumbs down.


There's only two arenas they're playing the games at. They had to wait for the Lakers game to end because the other game in progress started at 7PM and was still in the first half.


Such GREAT planning! lol. Apparently they had to swap out one of the nets too...

Lotta pretty weak foul calls around the basket in favor of MEM so far in this game.
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Re: Summer League 2025 

Post#117 » by azcatz11 » Sun Jul 13, 2025 3:39 am

Does Caleb Love have a shot at making the team?
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Re: Summer League 2025 

Post#118 » by Norm2953 » Sun Jul 13, 2025 3:41 am

zzaj wrote:
BlazersBroncos wrote:
zzaj wrote:Nique killing it in this SL. Looks like he has good starter potential in the NBA. Wish the Blazers would have made a play for him…


He is about 23.5 years old. He should be killing the SL.

Think he will make a nice role player but the cost to get back in R1 would have likely been the ORL 28 UNP FRP and no way I pay that for Nique.


Orlando is going to be good for a while…that pick is likely in the late 20s-early 30s. I’d think about it for Nique. Lotta Broy in his game.


Portland could offer that Orlando pick with some protection for one of the Nets 2025 FRP, for they can't possibly use all their
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Post#119 » by zzaj » Sun Jul 13, 2025 3:43 am

Team looking a little raggedy out there tonight. You can tell Memphis has had more time playing in SLs.
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Post#120 » by zzaj » Sun Jul 13, 2025 3:50 am

Man...finally a defensive call vs. Memphis.

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