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Re: Summer League 2025, Multi-Game Thread – (Next: Sun, July 13, 5:30PM) 

Post#601 » by Larry_Russell » Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:34 am

Stan34 wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:Prospects have looked pretty 1 dimensional so far.

Nothing close to being an nba level player on the court so far.

Looks like brad managed to draft more guys who cant contribute.
Hugo Will be a rotation player this year. Book it!

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Probably.


Doesnt mean he is worthy but he is better than walsh and baylor
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Post#602 » by Gant » Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:35 am

Himmelsbach:

Veteran big man Charles Bassey was a late addition to Boston’s summer squad but had an impressive debut, registering 14 points and 11 rebounds in just 18 minutes. Bassey, who battled injuries while playing for the 76ers and Spurs over the last four seasons, said he is now healthy and eager for another shot.

“He’s a guy that’s probably playing for what’s next,” Stevens said. “I just think he’s a guy we’ve paid attention to from afar for a long time. We’re watching all these guys all the time, and I thought he did a really good job yesterday. He probably was the biggest reason we won the game, I thought.”
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Post#603 » by Fencer reregistered » Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:40 am

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cloverleaf wrote:I'm thinking one more game will do it. Partially guaranteed, perhaps?

We don't have any roster spots.

We're at the maximum of 15 standard roster spots.

All we have for open roster spots is exhibit 10 training camp deals - which some reports are saying that is what Bassey is being signed to.


Check the rules again.

I think the offseason limit is 21 contracts, standard or two-way in any combination, except that two-ways may still be limited to their usual cap of 3.
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Re: Summer League 2025, Multi-Game Thread – (Next: Sun, July 13, 5:30PM) 

Post#604 » by Hal14 » Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:50 am

Fencer reregistered wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
cloverleaf wrote:I'm thinking one more game will do it. Partially guaranteed, perhaps?

We don't have any roster spots.

We're at the maximum of 15 standard roster spots.

All we have for open roster spots is exhibit 10 training camp deals - which some reports are saying that is what Bassey is being signed to.


Check the rules again.

I think the offseason limit is 21 contracts, standard or two-way in any combination, except that two-ways may still be limited to their usual cap of 3.

I'm well aware of that. But the bottom line is, you need to trim it down to 15 by opening night.

We're already at 15 though. Plus we have our 3 2-ways spots filled. Anyone we sign at this point would just be an exhibit 10 or exhibit 9 training camp deal..which is reportedly what Bassey is signing.

Sure, we could sign him to a standard contract right now since we do have more spots open on the 21 man offseason roster. But that's just not something that teams typically do if they are already have 15 guys signed to standard contracts.

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2025/07/brad-stevens-reveals-why-boston-celtics-made-surprise-addition-at-center.html

Boston’s 15-man roster is currently full but there is plenty of flexibility for the team to bring in a player on a training camp contract.
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Re: Summer League 2025, Multi-Game Thread – (Next: Sun, July 13, 5:30PM) 

Post#605 » by Parliament10 » Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:07 am

Hal14 wrote:
Fencer reregistered wrote:
Hal14 wrote:We don't have any roster spots.

We're at the maximum of 15 standard roster spots.

All we have for open roster spots is exhibit 10 training camp deals - which some reports are saying that is what Bassey is being signed to.


Check the rules again.

I think the offseason limit is 21 contracts, standard or two-way in any combination, except that two-ways may still be limited to their usual cap of 3.

I'm well aware of that. But the bottom line is, you need to trim it down to 15 by opening night.

We're already at 15 though. Plus we have our 3 2-ways spots filled. Anyone we sign at this point would just be an exhibit 10 or exhibit 9 training camp deal..which is reportedly what Bassey is signing.

Sure, we could sign him to a standard contract right now since we do have more spots open on the 21 man offseason roster. But that's just not something that teams typically do if they are already have 15 guys signed to standard contracts.

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2025/07/brad-stevens-reveals-why-boston-celtics-made-surprise-addition-at-center.html

Boston’s 15-man roster is currently full but there is plenty of flexibility for the team to bring in a player on a training camp contract.

You can sign more than 15 Standard Contracts.
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Post#606 » by djFan71 » Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:07 am

Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:31 points for Cooper Flagg in his second game. Dude really copied the Wemby summer league experience of clanking eveything in his first game and then being instantly far too good for that level :lol:

Speaking of the Spurs, Carter Bryant 1/6 and 0/7 in his first two games. Larry Russell woul have cut him already if he was GM of the Spurs.

I’m expecting 33 from Hugo now. Gotta keep outpacing him.
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Post#607 » by Hal14 » Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:38 am

Parliament10 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
Fencer reregistered wrote:
Check the rules again.

I think the offseason limit is 21 contracts, standard or two-way in any combination, except that two-ways may still be limited to their usual cap of 3.

I'm well aware of that. But the bottom line is, you need to trim it down to 15 by opening night.

We're already at 15 though. Plus we have our 3 2-ways spots filled. Anyone we sign at this point would just be an exhibit 10 or exhibit 9 training camp deal..which is reportedly what Bassey is signing.

Sure, we could sign him to a standard contract right now since we do have more spots open on the 21 man offseason roster. But that's just not something that teams typically do if they are already have 15 guys signed to standard contracts.

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2025/07/brad-stevens-reveals-why-boston-celtics-made-surprise-addition-at-center.html

Boston’s 15-man roster is currently full but there is plenty of flexibility for the team to bring in a player on a training camp contract.

You can sign more than 15 Standard Contracts.
Opening Day, is a ways away.

That is not something that teams typically do, though. Hence why Brian Robb (Celtics beat writer) says that if we signed Bassey, it would just be a training camp deal.

The 21 man offseason roster is typically made up of up to 15 on standard contracts, up to 3 2-ways and the rest exhibit 9 or 10 training camp deals.

No sense in signing a guy to a standard contract for guaranteed money with the chance that you have to cut him and then you're on the hook for that money paid to him. In that scenario it would just be an exhibit 9/10 deal instead, so there's no penalty for the team if they cut him.

Hell, we usually don't even reach the limit of 15 guys on a standard contract until we get to the end of training camp. Like a couple years ago, Vonleh and Justin Jackson got standard contracts at the end of training camp but before then we only had like 13 guys on standard deals (12 of them prior to Blake Griffin signing right before training camp).

And sometimes we go the whole season with just 14 guys on standard contracts, then convert a 2-way guy like JD with like 2 games left in the season.

Very rare for us to be at 15 standard contracts this soon in the offseason. It would be even more unprecedented for us to be at 16..

As the Brian Rob article says, maybe someone gets cut or we make some sort of 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 trade or 1 for 0 trade to open up a roster spot and then maybe sign Bassey. But we wouldn't sign him now to a standard contract, when we already have 15 of them filled. Again, it's not something that typically happens.

Situations like this are exactly why exhibit 9 and exhibit 10 deals exist.
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Post#608 » by LarryBirdsFingr » Sun Jul 13, 2025 3:27 am

Hal14 wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:I'm well aware of that. But the bottom line is, you need to trim it down to 15 by opening night.

We're already at 15 though. Plus we have our 3 2-ways spots filled. Anyone we sign at this point would just be an exhibit 10 or exhibit 9 training camp deal..which is reportedly what Bassey is signing.

Sure, we could sign him to a standard contract right now since we do have more spots open on the 21 man offseason roster. But that's just not something that teams typically do if they are already have 15 guys signed to standard contracts.

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2025/07/brad-stevens-reveals-why-boston-celtics-made-surprise-addition-at-center.html


You can sign more than 15 Standard Contracts.
Opening Day, is a ways away.

That is not something that teams typically do, though. Hence why Brian Robb (Celtics beat writer) says that if we signed Bassey, it would just be a training camp deal.

The 21 man offseason roster is typically made up of up to 15 on standard contracts, up to 3 2-ways and the rest exhibit 9 or 10 training camp deals.

No sense in signing a guy to a standard contract for guaranteed money with the chance that you have to cut him and then you're on the hook for that money paid to him. In that scenario it would just be an exhibit 9/10 deal instead, so there's no penalty for the team if they cut him.

Hell, we usually don't even reach the limit of 15 guys on a standard contract until we get to the end of training camp. Like a couple years ago, Vonleh and Justin Jackson got standard contracts at the end of training camp but before then we only had like 13 guys on standard deals (12 of them prior to Blake Griffin signing right before training camp).

And sometimes we go the whole season with just 14 guys on standard contracts, then convert a 2-way guy like JD with like 2 games left in the season.

Very rare for us to be at 15 standard contracts this soon in the offseason. It would be even more unprecedented for us to be at 16..

As the Brian Rob article says, maybe someone gets cut or we make some sort of 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 trade or 1 for 0 trade to open up a roster spot and then maybe sign Bassey. But we wouldn't sign him now to a standard contract, when we already have 15 of them filled. Again, it's not something that typically happens.

Situations like this are exactly why exhibit 9 and exhibit 10 deals exist.


Agreed, I don't think we keep more than a couple of these new additions past the deadline.
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Post#609 » by cloverleaf » Sun Jul 13, 2025 6:25 am

Sounds like JD's unguaranteed spot may be in peril, they may also plan to dump off Tillman, and all around have more roster tweaks to go. Maybe they already checked out Bassey's medicals when he was in Boston last week and would move to lock him up sooner rather than later.
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Post#610 » by keevsnick1 » Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:56 am

Hal14 wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:I'm well aware of that. But the bottom line is, you need to trim it down to 15 by opening night.

We're already at 15 though. Plus we have our 3 2-ways spots filled. Anyone we sign at this point would just be an exhibit 10 or exhibit 9 training camp deal..which is reportedly what Bassey is signing.

Sure, we could sign him to a standard contract right now since we do have more spots open on the 21 man offseason roster. But that's just not something that teams typically do if they are already have 15 guys signed to standard contracts.

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2025/07/brad-stevens-reveals-why-boston-celtics-made-surprise-addition-at-center.html


You can sign more than 15 Standard Contracts.
Opening Day, is a ways away.

That is not something that teams typically do, though. Hence why Brian Robb (Celtics beat writer) says that if we signed Bassey, it would just be a training camp deal.

The 21 man offseason roster is typically made up of up to 15 on standard contracts, up to 3 2-ways and the rest exhibit 9 or 10 training camp deals.

No sense in signing a guy to a standard contract for guaranteed money with the chance that you have to cut him and then you're on the hook for that money paid to him. In that scenario it would just be an exhibit 9/10 deal instead, so there's no penalty for the team if they cut him.

Hell, we usually don't even reach the limit of 15 guys on a standard contract until we get to the end of training camp. Like a couple years ago, Vonleh and Justin Jackson got standard contracts at the end of training camp but before then we only had like 13 guys on standard deals (12 of them prior to Blake Griffin signing right before training camp).

And sometimes we go the whole season with just 14 guys on standard contracts, then convert a 2-way guy like JD with like 2 games left in the season.

Very rare for us to be at 15 standard contracts this soon in the offseason. It would be even more unprecedented for us to be at 16..

As the Brian Rob article says, maybe someone gets cut or we make some sort of 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 trade or 1 for 0 trade to open up a roster spot and then maybe sign Bassey. But we wouldn't sign him now to a standard contract, when we already have 15 of them filled. Again, it's not something that typically happens.

Situations like this are exactly why exhibit 9 and exhibit 10 deals exist.


Its worth noting that JD Davidson's contract is completely non-guaranteed, so i they really want Bassey they could just cut JD to make a spot.
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Post#611 » by jonige94 » Sun Jul 13, 2025 10:38 am

Raynaud looks real nice, so upset we didnt get him.
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Post#612 » by Bill Lumbergh » Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:59 pm

If you could trade Davidson for Davison, would you do it?
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Post#613 » by return2glory » Sun Jul 13, 2025 3:20 pm

I'm hoping for another good game from Classy Charlie Bassey.




He runs the floor well, has good timing on his blocks, is a quick leaper, rebounds really well and is a good passer as well.
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Post#614 » by Parliament10 » Sun Jul 13, 2025 3:32 pm

return2glory wrote:I'm hoping for another good game from Classy Charlie Bassey.




He runs the floor well, has good timing on his blocks, is a quick leaper, rebounds really well and is a good passer as well.

Yeah. I'd like to see him make the 15-Man. He's only 24, as well.
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Post#615 » by darrendaye » Sun Jul 13, 2025 3:39 pm

Bill Lumbergh wrote:If you could trade Davidson for Davison, would you do it?


That's one of JD's problems, not enough D. So, I prefer Davidson.
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Post#616 » by redslastlaugh » Sun Jul 13, 2025 3:41 pm

Very, very soon to make judgments...
but early sign says we should have taken Hugo at #28 and just stayed at #32 and selected Max Raynaud


jonige94 wrote:Raynaud looks real nice, so upset we didnt get him.
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Post#617 » by Curmudgeon » Sun Jul 13, 2025 4:04 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:Very, very soon to make judgments...
but early sign says we should have taken Hugo at #28 and just stayed at #32 and selected Max Raynaud


jonige94 wrote:Raynaud looks real nice, so upset we didnt get him.


I'm guessing that Raynaud's agent would not have settled for a 2-way.

The player drafted with #32, Noah Penda, got a 4 year regular deal with Orlando worth 8.7M, with two guaranteed years, a non-guaranteed third year, and a team option for the fourth year.
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Post#618 » by redslastlaugh » Sun Jul 13, 2025 4:12 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:Very, very soon to make judgments...
but early sign says we should have taken Hugo at #28 and just stayed at #32 and selected Max Raynaud

jonige94 wrote:Raynaud looks real nice, so upset we didnt get him.


I'm guessing that Raynaud's agent would not have settled for a 2-way.

If you are drafting at #32, you want to get the player on a four yr standard rookie scale contract, with a 3rd yr trigger date and a 4th yr team option. This is a good thing. Sometimes it seems like the Celtics under this leadership sees it as a bad thing, which is (from my persective) hard to understand.

If Brad had decided we're just going to take the best player at our pick and sign him to a standard contract, we'd have taken Austin Reaves in 2021 not Juhann Begarin.

I wonder if Brad has PTSD or something from demetrius Jackson and Carsen Edwards and Tremont Waters...
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Post#619 » by Dogen » Sun Jul 13, 2025 4:15 pm

Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:31 points for Cooper Flagg in his second game. Dude really copied the Wemby summer league experience of clanking eveything in his first game and then being instantly far too good for that level :lol:

Speaking of the Spurs, Carter Bryant 1/6 and 0/7 in his first two games. Larry Russell woul have cut him already if he was GM of the Spurs.


IDK man, the Spurs did good with the two lottery picks. They have plenty of firepower with Wemby, Harper & Fox (both are more shoot first types it seems), Castle, Vassell, and now Olynyk.

Bryant's shot looks suspect, yeah, a LOT of work. But he just needs to working on hitting the open shots since he's not needed much on offense.

The D though... :o ... did you watch the Spurs/Mavs game. Dude is an absolute menace. I know you are being facetious, but if they cut him, Brad and every other GM in the league would be making room for him. Super high upside.

edit: I just realized you wrote "Larry Russell". Yeah, he would probably have cut him already :lol: .
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Post#620 » by flintsky21 » Sun Jul 13, 2025 4:17 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:Very, very soon to make judgments...
but early sign says we should have taken Hugo at #28 and just stayed at #32 and selected Max Raynaud



I'm guessing that Raynaud's agent would not have settled for a 2-way.

If you are drafting at #32, you want to get the player on a four yr standard rookie scale contract, with a 3rd yr trigger date and a 4th yr team option. This is a good thing. Sometimes it seems like the Celtics under this leadership sees it as a bad thing, which is (from my persective) hard to understand.

If Brad had decided we're just going to take the best player at our pick and sign him to a standard contract, we'd have taken Austin Reaves in 2021 not Juhann Begarin.

I wonder if Brad has PTSD or something from demetrius Jackson and Carsen Edwards and Tremont Waters...

I think it's interesting that Brad has used his top picks the last 3 drafts to grab a wing (Hugo, Baylor, Walsh) while passing up on KP archetypes Filipowski and Raynaud. Maybe Brad just really likes wings lol.

Anyways, all will be forgiven if the Garza signing works out. :lol:

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