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Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2

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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1361 » by JayTWill » Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:06 am

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waya wrote:Sounds like you're struggling to accept the fact that you wasted hours and hours of your life arguing about og anunoby needing to play 35 minutes per game instead of 36 minutes.. and then we ended the post season fully healthy and playing with the requisite intensity :lol:



I didn’t waste hours and hours of my life arguing that lmao. You’re just trolling at this point. Step up your ball IQ and come back to me


You got it chief, I can't wait to engage in your insightful "it's true because I say so" discussions


Do you think Thibs was right for playing guys as many minutes as he did throughout the regular season?
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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1362 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Jul 13, 2025 5:51 am

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waya wrote:
spree8 wrote:

I didn’t waste hours and hours of my life arguing that lmao. You’re just trolling at this point. Step up your ball IQ and come back to me


You got it chief, I can't wait to engage in your insightful "it's true because I say so" discussions


Do you think Thibs was right for playing guys as many minutes as he did throughout the regular season?

There were times when we were up by a lot in the 4th quarter and it seemed clear that the game was over and yet Thibs didn’t take out the starters. But there had to be things he wanted these guys to work on or show him. Thibs isn’t stupid. He’s a great coach who has his own old school ways.
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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1363 » by Thepaintismine » Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:08 am

JayTWill wrote:
waya wrote:
spree8 wrote:

I didn’t waste hours and hours of my life arguing that lmao. You’re just trolling at this point. Step up your ball IQ and come back to me


You got it chief, I can't wait to engage in your insightful "it's true because I say so" discussions


Do you think Thibs was right for playing guys as many minutes as he did throughout the regular season?


I don't have a prob with high minutes in the playoffs. But gearin them up for the post season means giving them rest when possible.
Was a part of Thibs downfall. It cost us development of the younger guys and that could have helped in spots in the post season, ya'll.
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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1364 » by prophet_of_rage » Sun Jul 13, 2025 12:04 pm

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Yea, you really don’t get it man…

This is one of those cases where someone is so far behind that they think they’re ahead..


You mean your argument is "I have no evidence to backup my claims but you're wrong because I say you are". keep clutching those pearls amigo



The evidence is all there lol, you’re obviously late to the party. Go do your research because it’s obvious you haven’t. You’re the one clutching pearls tho lol… Thibs is gone, and for several reasons… minutes is a major one. Hate to break it to you
Thibs is not gone because of minutes. Thibs is gone because he was stubborn and narrow-minded, refusing to deviate from what he trusted. Thibs didn't listen to anybody in the organisation. And there was a coup.

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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1365 » by prophet_of_rage » Sun Jul 13, 2025 12:06 pm

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The evidence is all there lol, you’re obviously late to the party. Go do your research because it’s obvious you haven’t. You’re the one clutching pearls tho lol… Thibs is gone, and for several reasons… minutes is a major one. Hate to break it to you

Sounds like you're struggling to accept the fact that you wasted hours and hours of your life arguing about og anunoby needing to play 35 minutes per game instead of 36 minutes.. and then we ended the post season fully healthy and playing with the requisite intensity

And then??? they got gassed out, every single game they were sucking wind with 7 to go in the 4th...by a better rested team, a team with more lineup variety and a team less talented.
Brunson was the only one really gassed out from the Pacers dogging him full court and Brunson liked his minutes.

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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1366 » by spree8 » Sun Jul 13, 2025 12:24 pm

prophet_of_rage wrote:
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waya wrote:
You mean your argument is "I have no evidence to backup my claims but you're wrong because I say you are". keep clutching those pearls amigo



The evidence is all there lol, you’re obviously late to the party. Go do your research because it’s obvious you haven’t. You’re the one clutching pearls tho lol… Thibs is gone, and for several reasons… minutes is a major one. Hate to break it to you
Thibs is not gone because of minutes. Thibs is gone because he was stubborn and narrow-minded, refusing to deviate from what he trusted. Thibs didn't listen to anybody in the organisation. And there was a coup.

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Overplaying the starters is absolutely part of the reason. You diehards are living in another reality lol.
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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1367 » by WaltFrazier » Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:43 pm

prophet_of_rage wrote:
Meat wrote:
waya wrote:Sounds like you're struggling to accept the fact that you wasted hours and hours of your life arguing about og anunoby needing to play 35 minutes per game instead of 36 minutes.. and then we ended the post season fully healthy and playing with the requisite intensity

And then??? they got gassed out, every single game they were sucking wind with 7 to go in the 4th...by a better rested team, a team with more lineup variety and a team less talented.
Brunson was the only one really gassed out from the Pacers dogging him full court and Brunson liked his minutes.

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Besides minutes maybe Brown can prevent JB being gassed by playing off ball more, giving it up and cutting. It would take a new combo guard who can bring it up vs full court pressure to relieve JB of facing that all game.
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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1368 » by Capn'O » Sun Jul 13, 2025 3:06 pm

prophet_of_rage wrote:
spree8 wrote:
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You mean your argument is "I have no evidence to backup my claims but you're wrong because I say you are". keep clutching those pearls amigo



The evidence is all there lol, you’re obviously late to the party. Go do your research because it’s obvious you haven’t. You’re the one clutching pearls tho lol… Thibs is gone, and for several reasons… minutes is a major one. Hate to break it to you
Thibs is not gone because of minutes. Thibs is gone because he was stubborn and narrow-minded, refusing to deviate from what he trusted. Thibs didn't listen to anybody in the organisation. And there was a coup.

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Yes, but...

Minutes was part of the concern. Or at least not playing the guys they brought in to address specific concerns.
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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1369 » by ScienceOfLosing » Sun Jul 13, 2025 3:18 pm

prophet_of_rage wrote:
spree8 wrote:
waya wrote:
You mean your argument is "I have no evidence to backup my claims but you're wrong because I say you are". keep clutching those pearls amigo



The evidence is all there lol, you’re obviously late to the party. Go do your research because it’s obvious you haven’t. You’re the one clutching pearls tho lol… Thibs is gone, and for several reasons… minutes is a major one. Hate to break it to you
Thibs is not gone because of minutes. Thibs is gone because he was stubborn and narrow-minded, refusing to deviate from what he trusted. Thibs didn't listen to anybody in the organisation. And there was a coup.

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One includes the other though. Overplaying starters in the regular season also involved not developing the youngsters, essentially our bench. Hope Brown develops the young guys.
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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1370 » by Iron Mantis » Sun Jul 13, 2025 4:27 pm

spree8 wrote:
prophet_of_rage wrote:
spree8 wrote:

The evidence is all there lol, you’re obviously late to the party. Go do your research because it’s obvious you haven’t. You’re the one clutching pearls tho lol… Thibs is gone, and for several reasons… minutes is a major one. Hate to break it to you
Thibs is not gone because of minutes. Thibs is gone because he was stubborn and narrow-minded, refusing to deviate from what he trusted. Thibs didn't listen to anybody in the organisation. And there was a coup.

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Overplaying the starters is absolutely part of the reason. You diehards are living in another reality lol.

For real. It's definitely a major part of the reason.

Mikal(likely as the voice for all the players) publicly complaining about minutes during the season...

After being eliminated from the playoffs, the players were asked about Thibs.....

Thibs immediately gets fired...

This isn't that complicated. There's a laundry list of reasons why he got fired but minutes was definitely one of them :lol:
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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1371 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Jul 13, 2025 5:32 pm

Still complaining about Thibs is wild. Hard to move on huh :lol:
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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1372 » by Iron Mantis » Sun Jul 13, 2025 6:08 pm

ScienceOfLosing wrote:
prophet_of_rage wrote:
spree8 wrote:

The evidence is all there lol, you’re obviously late to the party. Go do your research because it’s obvious you haven’t. You’re the one clutching pearls tho lol… Thibs is gone, and for several reasons… minutes is a major one. Hate to break it to you
Thibs is not gone because of minutes. Thibs is gone because he was stubborn and narrow-minded, refusing to deviate from what he trusted. Thibs didn't listen to anybody in the organisation. And there was a coup.

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One includes the other though. Overplaying starters in the regular season also involved not developing the youngsters, essentially our bench. Hope Brown develops the young guys.

:nod: It's all connected

Not developing young guys or even letting the veteran bench players develop chemistry with our rotation guys... Both were caused by overplaying the starters.
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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1373 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Jul 13, 2025 6:48 pm

prophet_of_rage wrote:
spree8 wrote:
waya wrote:
You mean your argument is "I have no evidence to backup my claims but you're wrong because I say you are". keep clutching those pearls amigo



The evidence is all there lol, you’re obviously late to the party. Go do your research because it’s obvious you haven’t. You’re the one clutching pearls tho lol… Thibs is gone, and for several reasons… minutes is a major one. Hate to break it to you
Thibs is not gone because of minutes. Thibs is gone because he was stubborn and narrow-minded, refusing to deviate from what he trusted. Thibs didn't listen to anybody in the organisation. And there was a coup.

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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1374 » by JayTWill » Sun Jul 13, 2025 7:52 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
JayTWill wrote:
waya wrote:
You got it chief, I can't wait to engage in your insightful "it's true because I say so" discussions


Do you think Thibs was right for playing guys as many minutes as he did throughout the regular season?

There were times when we were up by a lot in the 4th quarter and it seemed clear that the game was over and yet Thibs didn’t take out the starters. But there had to be things he wanted these guys to work on or show him. Thibs isn’t stupid. He’s a great coach who has his own old school ways.


I don't know. Thibs did so many things that I couldn't understand throughout the season. Seeing as he gave so minutes to the starters just for them to become one of our worst lineup combinations something went wrong imo. Whatever they were working on wasn't working.
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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1375 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:18 pm

JayTWill wrote:
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JayTWill wrote:
Do you think Thibs was right for playing guys as many minutes as he did throughout the regular season?

There were times when we were up by a lot in the 4th quarter and it seemed clear that the game was over and yet Thibs didn’t take out the starters. But there had to be things he wanted these guys to work on or show him. Thibs isn’t stupid. He’s a great coach who has his own old school ways.


I don't know. Thibs did so many things that I couldn't understand throughout the season. Seeing as he gave so minutes to the starters just for them to become one of our worst lineup combinations something went wrong imo. Whatever they were working on wasn't working.

The team had two new starters to the rotation (40%) and no rim protection. We were inconsistent on both ends of the court. Maybe that’s why Thibs wanted them to get more minutes together?
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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1376 » by JayTWill » Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:49 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
JayTWill wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:There were times when we were up by a lot in the 4th quarter and it seemed clear that the game was over and yet Thibs didn’t take out the starters. But there had to be things he wanted these guys to work on or show him. Thibs isn’t stupid. He’s a great coach who has his own old school ways.


I don't know. Thibs did so many things that I couldn't understand throughout the season. Seeing as he gave so minutes to the starters just for them to become one of our worst lineup combinations something went wrong imo. Whatever they were working on wasn't working.

The team had two new starters to the rotation (40%) and no rim protection. We were inconsistent on both ends of the court. Maybe that’s why Thibs wanted them to get more minutes together?


But shouldn't they have performed better together over time if that was his plan?

The lineup he played most had a net rating +6.6 before January 1st. They had a net rating of -1.4 from January 1st to the end of the season but different starters missed time in that period which may have interrupted Thibs' plan.

At full strength in the postseason they had a net rating of -0.9 against the Pistons in the first round. They had a net rating of -9.5 against the Celtics in the second round and a net rating of -12.5 against the Pacers in the conference finals.
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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1377 » by Iron Mantis » Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:09 pm

JayTWill wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
JayTWill wrote:
I don't know. Thibs did so many things that I couldn't understand throughout the season. Seeing as he gave so minutes to the starters just for them to become one of our worst lineup combinations something went wrong imo. Whatever they were working on wasn't working.

The team had two new starters to the rotation (40%) and no rim protection. We were inconsistent on both ends of the court. Maybe that’s why Thibs wanted them to get more minutes together?


But shouldn't they have performed better together over time if that was his plan?

The lineup he played most had a net rating +6.6 before January 1st. They had a net rating of -1.4 from January 1st to the end of the season but different starters missed time in that period which may have interrupted Thibs' plan.

At full strength in the postseason they had a net rating of -0.9 against the Pistons in the first round. They had a net rating of -9.5 against the Celtics in the second round and a net rating of -12.5 against the Pacers in the conference finals.

Started the season with a full tank of gas...

By the ECF tho...

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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1378 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:43 pm

Iron Mantis wrote:
JayTWill wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:The team had two new starters to the rotation (40%) and no rim protection. We were inconsistent on both ends of the court. Maybe that’s why Thibs wanted them to get more minutes together?


But shouldn't they have performed better together over time if that was his plan?

The lineup he played most had a net rating +6.6 before January 1st. They had a net rating of -1.4 from January 1st to the end of the season but different starters missed time in that period which may have interrupted Thibs' plan.

At full strength in the postseason they had a net rating of -0.9 against the Pistons in the first round. They had a net rating of -9.5 against the Celtics in the second round and a net rating of -12.5 against the Pacers in the conference finals.

Started the season with a full tank of gas...

By the ECF tho...

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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1379 » by KnicksGadfly » Sun Jul 13, 2025 10:54 pm

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Re: Tom Thibodeau fired pt 2 

Post#1380 » by Iron Mantis » Sun Jul 13, 2025 11:25 pm

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Hot damn wow

Of course that certainly has NOTHING to with how many minutes he played this season, going 82 games straight......Mikal has no right to be tired or complain.

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