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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1701 » by 8516knicks » Sun Jul 13, 2025 3:44 am

Are we now waiting for the last minute final cuts of vets just before the season to fill out our remaining affordable needs?
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1702 » by knickstape4ever » Sun Jul 13, 2025 7:57 am

thebuzzardman wrote:Whoever is allowed to have McCullars spot under the cba rules can have it

Knicks should be exploring another big because Huk kind of sucks

Knicks need to consider that Kolek and Dadiet wasting rosters spots and precious cap $ too


if they really are interested in Smart, Kolek becomes expendable

I'm a fan of Dadiet. I think he's one of those guys tho, as Fran Fraschilla used to say was "a year away from being a year away"
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1703 » by WaltFrazier » Sun Jul 13, 2025 1:38 pm

8516knicks wrote:Are we now waiting for the last minute final cuts of vets just before the season to fill out our remaining affordable needs?

There's already guys available but mostly guards. Smart, Brogdon, as well as Wright and Shamet from last year. And Simmons who's the only guard with forward size. But are there any 6'7+ true forwards out there, who can also shoot? That would be nice
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1704 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:32 pm

knickstape4ever wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Whoever is allowed to have McCullars spot under the cba rules can have it

Knicks should be exploring another big because Huk kind of sucks

Knicks need to consider that Kolek and Dadiet wasting rosters spots and precious cap $ too


if they really are interested in Smart, Kolek becomes expendable

I'm a fan of Dadiet. I think he's one of those guys tho, as Fran Fraschilla used to say was "a year away from being a year away"


Kolek's ceiling is Ron Baker
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1705 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Sun Jul 13, 2025 7:01 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Whoever is allowed to have McCullars spot under the cba rules can have it

Knicks should be exploring another big because Huk kind of sucks

Knicks need to consider that Kolek and Dadiet wasting rosters spots and precious cap $ too


if they really are interested in Smart, Kolek becomes expendable

I'm a fan of Dadiet. I think he's one of those guys tho, as Fran Fraschilla used to say was "a year away from being a year away"


Kolek's ceiling is Ron Baker

New trade idea, specifically for thebuzzardman.

Trade Kolek for cash considerations to whoever will take him. Sign two (non-first round) rookies to minimum contracts. Sign Smart (or Brodie, if you insist, :roll: ) to a three year deal microscopically above veteran minimum. This is just achievable (under the 2nd apron) if some of the signings are delayed two weeks into the season.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1706 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Jul 13, 2025 7:45 pm

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:
if they really are interested in Smart, Kolek becomes expendable

I'm a fan of Dadiet. I think he's one of those guys tho, as Fran Fraschilla used to say was "a year away from being a year away"


Kolek's ceiling is Ron Baker

New trade idea, specifically for thebuzzardman.

Trade Kolek for cash considerations to whoever will take him. Sign two (non-first round) rookies to minimum contracts. Sign Smart (or Brodie, if you insist, :roll: ) to a three year deal microscopically above veteran minimum. This is just achievable (under the 2nd apron) if some of the signings are delayed two weeks into the season.


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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1707 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:25 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Kolek's ceiling is Ron Baker

New trade idea, specifically for thebuzzardman.

Trade Kolek for cash considerations to whoever will take him. Sign two (non-first round) rookies to minimum contracts. Sign Smart (or Brodie, if you insist, :roll: ) to a three year deal microscopically above veteran minimum. This is just achievable (under the 2nd apron) if some of the signings are delayed two weeks into the season.


SOLD!

In a fantasy world these type of people would want a PO out after a year. Ok. That's kinda reasonable. The contending teams are changing faster than before in the league. Let them have that. But tie them in to no PO at the end of year 2, so you don't get into another iHart situation.

I mean, you probably don't care about having the right to match Brodie's offers for 2028-2029. But if Smart was useful and the Knicks were sufficiently close at the end of 2025-2026 that he'd take another year at $4m or w/e ... then maybe don't let him move the next year. idk. I think you ought to be able to talk to someone like that at that point in their career. After a year - sure - find someone who can really pay you if that's your aim; if we're really close (or already won) then come back for another two years and we'll take it from there.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1708 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:32 pm

I mean, if Washington want to buy Smart out what really is his longer term? Obviously he'd probably have some pull towards the Celtics. I understand the separation was relatively professional.

So he has to play somewhere this year. Might as well be on a contender to reach a conference title, even if only to showcase himself a little. After that, who knows.

Otoh, he may want to go somewhere where he can get the most minutes possible this year in order to show he can still be a starter or whatever.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1709 » by Knick4Real » Sun Jul 13, 2025 10:36 pm

8516knicks wrote:Are we now waiting for the last minute final cuts of vets just before the season to fill out our remaining affordable needs?


IMO, KNICKS are (smartly) waiting to see what Giannis decides to do. We have 1 slot to fill and can afford to wait it out.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1710 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Sun Jul 13, 2025 10:54 pm

Knick4Real wrote:
8516knicks wrote:Are we now waiting for the last minute final cuts of vets just before the season to fill out our remaining affordable needs?


IMO, KNICKS are (smartly) waiting to see what Giannis decides to do. We have 1 slot to fill and can afford to wait it out.

Absolutely. The Knicks have no rush at all and should (smartly) wait forever to see what shakes out in the market.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1711 » by Richard4444 » Sun Jul 13, 2025 11:10 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Polk377 wrote:
Rodimus921 wrote:I think Shamet doesn’t fit the teams persona. Most of our guards and forwards are 3 &D, two way players. I only see him Playing in situations where we need a 3pt basket or some offense to create more options on offense to win the game. Not much he’s capable of doing. Also he’s very streaky to be allegedly an above average shooter imo.

Shamet was a solid defender off the bench in the minutes he got. He works hard and isn't making mental errors. He fits just fine.


He can have the $ that was going to McCullars


McCullars is in a 2 way contract.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1712 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Jul 13, 2025 11:37 pm

Richard4444 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Polk377 wrote:Shamet was a solid defender off the bench in the minutes he got. He works hard and isn't making mental errors. He fits just fine.


He can have the $ that was going to McCullars


McCullars is in a 2 way contract.

They’ve talked about giving him that last cheap rookie contract
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1713 » by Richard4444 » Sun Jul 13, 2025 11:42 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
He can have the $ that was going to McCullars


McCullars is in a 2 way contract.

They’ve talked about giving him that last cheap rookie contract


I thought he counted as a first year vet.

If he can qualify to receive a rookie min deal, it better throw it at him than Dwahara or Nnaji.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1714 » by Nazrmohamed » Mon Jul 14, 2025 12:27 am

knickstape4ever wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Whoever is allowed to have McCullars spot under the cba rules can have it

Knicks should be exploring another big because Huk kind of sucks

Knicks need to consider that Kolek and Dadiet wasting rosters spots and precious cap $ too


if they really are interested in Smart, Kolek becomes expendable

I'm a fan of Dadiet. I think he's one of those guys tho, as Fran Fraschilla used to say was "a year away from being a year away"


Why? Smart is more of a short sighted upgrade from Deuce. And in this case Im not even bashing the shortsightedness of it. Im trying to win a title this year so go for it. Im just saying hes got sortve a one year window( prior to fully being cooked) where the skillset is sortve the same except you could lean on his experience, size and the fact that hes stronger. Ive always felt like Deuce was a Smart-lite. Not really a facilitator enough to be a PG but alittle short at SG, however Smarts alittle taller at 6'4 as opposed to 6'2.

We dont have a comparable for what Koleks supposed to be unless we wanna resign Wright. And thats why Im not really excited about Smart. Between he and Clarkson youre just talking about 2 undersized SGs who can dribble a bit.

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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1715 » by Esq-4 » Mon Jul 14, 2025 1:18 am

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:New trade idea, specifically for thebuzzardman.

Trade Kolek for cash considerations to whoever will take him. Sign two (non-first round) rookies to minimum contracts. Sign Smart (or Brodie, if you insist, :roll: ) to a three year deal microscopically above veteran minimum. This is just achievable (under the 2nd apron) if some of the signings are delayed two weeks into the season.


SOLD!

In a fantasy world these type of people would want a PO out after a year. Ok. That's kinda reasonable. The contending teams are changing faster than before in the league. Let them have that. But tie them in to no PO at the end of year 2, so you don't get into another iHart situation.

I mean, you probably don't care about having the right to match Brodie's offers for 2028-2029. But if Smart was useful and the Knicks were sufficiently close at the end of 2025-2026 that he'd take another year at $4m or w/e ... then maybe don't let him move the next year. idk. I think you ought to be able to talk to someone like that at that point in their career. After a year - sure - find someone who can really pay you if that's your aim; if we're really close (or already won) then come back for another two years and we'll take it from there.


This is close to what it is, not just waiting to see who else or what other deal shakes free, but waiting for salary reasons too.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1716 » by Ravenxvirall » Mon Jul 14, 2025 5:37 am

We don’t expect any trades to happen correct? My line of thinking is I expect us to stand pat now and if there are issues we explore options closer to the trade deadline. I think that’s where we all are yeah?
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1717 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jul 14, 2025 9:21 am

Ravenxvirall wrote:We don’t expect any trades to happen correct? My line of thinking is I expect us to stand pat now and if there are issues we explore options closer to the trade deadline. I think that’s where we all are yeah?


I wouldn't assume anything with Leon. Last summer it looked like we were running it back and adding Mikal. That was not the case. A week before preseason we got a bombshell dropped on us. I don't see that really happening with our asset pool being what it is though. I am expecting to go into the season as is. We may wait to add the last two players but. I don't think we make any trades.

People will be talking about Giannis and LeBron all summer though.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1718 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Jul 14, 2025 9:47 am

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Ravenxvirall wrote:We don’t expect any trades to happen correct? My line of thinking is I expect us to stand pat now and if there are issues we explore options closer to the trade deadline. I think that’s where we all are yeah?


I wouldn't assume anything with Leon. Last summer it looked like we were running it back and adding Mikal. That was not the case. A week before preseason we got a bombshell dropped on us. I don't see that really happening with our asset pool being what it is though. I am expecting to go into the season as is. We may wait to add the last two players but. I don't think we make any trades.

People will be talking about Giannis and LeBron all summer though.

Neither LeBron nor Giannis is coming to the Knicks.

Maybe Smart, Brogdan, Lyles, or Coffey depending on how the young players show out in SL and preseason.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1719 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jul 14, 2025 10:19 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Ravenxvirall wrote:We don’t expect any trades to happen correct? My line of thinking is I expect us to stand pat now and if there are issues we explore options closer to the trade deadline. I think that’s where we all are yeah?


I wouldn't assume anything with Leon. Last summer it looked like we were running it back and adding Mikal. That was not the case. A week before preseason we got a bombshell dropped on us. I don't see that really happening with our asset pool being what it is though. I am expecting to go into the season as is. We may wait to add the last two players but. I don't think we make any trades.

People will be talking about Giannis and LeBron all summer though.

Neither LeBron nor Giannis is coming to the Knicks.

Maybe Smart, Brogdan, Lyles, or Coffey depending on how the young players show out in SL and preseason.


It won't stop people from talking about it. The talking point will be no one saw OG/Mikal/KAT coming either. Prepare yourself.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1720 » by spree2kawhi » Mon Jul 14, 2025 11:42 am

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HarthorneWingo wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
I wouldn't assume anything with Leon. Last summer it looked like we were running it back and adding Mikal. That was not the case. A week before preseason we got a bombshell dropped on us. I don't see that really happening with our asset pool being what it is though. I am expecting to go into the season as is. We may wait to add the last two players but. I don't think we make any trades.

People will be talking about Giannis and LeBron all summer though.

Neither LeBron nor Giannis is coming to the Knicks.

Maybe Smart, Brogdan, Lyles, or Coffey depending on how the young players show out in SL and preseason.


It won't stop people from talking about it. The talking point will be no one saw OG/Mikal/KAT coming either. Prepare yourself.

I saw all three of them lol

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