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Re: Knicks to Hire Mike Brown as Next Head Coach 

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Post#1082 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:50 pm

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what happened to full autonomy of his staff? I don't like this. carry over 1 or 2 assistants, but basically the entire staff stays and just Mike Brown and a couple of his guys sends the message that it was basically all Thibs' fault. + consider some of those assistants are loyal to Thibs, could cause a fractured locker room if they don't hit the ground running


There are rumors that Thibs doesn't let his staff give any criticisms when it comes to his rotations and game plans. It's basically either "Yes" or "No", but otherwise Thibs does things his way always. That's not how you suppose to empower your staff.


If they were Thibs' loyalists, they would leave on their own merit, but them coming back says to me that they're not that loyal. Good on them, and maybe they'll get more credit and lend a voice to Mike Brown.


Those assistants also wanted Thibs gone apparently. Why else would they stay? I hope Brown is the answer. I do not believe Thibs was.
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what happened to full autonomy of his staff? I don't like this. carry over 1 or 2 assistants, but basically the entire staff stays and just Mike Brown and a couple of his guys sends the message that it was basically all Thibs' fault. + consider some of those assistants are loyal to Thibs, could cause a fractured locker room if they don't hit the ground running

It’s the Leon takeover, man. Now that the team is decent, he didn’t feel he needed Thibs anymore.

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Re: Knicks to Hire Mike Brown as Next Head Coach 

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what happened to full autonomy of his staff? I don't like this. carry over 1 or 2 assistants, but basically the entire staff stays and just Mike Brown and a couple of his guys sends the message that it was basically all Thibs' fault. + consider some of those assistants are loyal to Thibs, could cause a fractured locker room if they don't hit the ground running

It’s the Leon takeover, man. Now that the team is decent, he didn’t feel he needed Thibs anymore.

FAFO!


Leon hired Thibs in the first place.
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what happened to full autonomy of his staff? I don't like this. carry over 1 or 2 assistants, but basically the entire staff stays and just Mike Brown and a couple of his guys sends the message that it was basically all Thibs' fault. + consider some of those assistants are loyal to Thibs, could cause a fractured locker room if they don't hit the ground running


There are rumors that Thibs doesn't let his staff give any criticisms when it comes to his rotations and game plans. It's basically either "Yes" or "No", but otherwise Thibs does things his way always. That's not how you suppose to empower your staff.


If they were Thibs' loyalists, they would leave on their own merit, but them coming back says to me that they're not that loyal. Good on them, and maybe they'll get more credit and lend a voice to Mike Brown.


Those assistants also wanted Thibs gone apparently. Why else would they stay? I hope Brown is the answer. I do not believe Thibs was.

Maybe they stayed because of the consistent paycheck?
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Re: Knicks to Hire Mike Brown as Next Head Coach 

Post#1087 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Jul 14, 2025 9:50 pm

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what happened to full autonomy of his staff? I don't like this. carry over 1 or 2 assistants, but basically the entire staff stays and just Mike Brown and a couple of his guys sends the message that it was basically all Thibs' fault. + consider some of those assistants are loyal to Thibs, could cause a fractured locker room if they don't hit the ground running

It’s the Leon takeover, man. Now that the team is decent, he didn’t feel he needed Thibs anymore.

FAFO!


Leon hired Thibs in the first place.

You don't say? :lol:

And then he stabbed him in the back.
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Re: Knicks to Hire Mike Brown as Next Head Coach 

Post#1088 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jul 14, 2025 10:29 pm

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There are rumors that Thibs doesn't let his staff give any criticisms when it comes to his rotations and game plans. It's basically either "Yes" or "No", but otherwise Thibs does things his way always. That's not how you suppose to empower your staff.


If they were Thibs' loyalists, they would leave on their own merit, but them coming back says to me that they're not that loyal. Good on them, and maybe they'll get more credit and lend a voice to Mike Brown.


Those assistants also wanted Thibs gone apparently. Why else would they stay? I hope Brown is the answer. I do not believe Thibs was.

Maybe they stayed because of the consistent paycheck?


It is blatantly obvious they had a part in Thibs being let go. They certainly don't have a problem with it.
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Re: Knicks to Hire Mike Brown as Next Head Coach 

Post#1089 » by Adelheid » Mon Jul 14, 2025 11:13 pm

daisuke is also still among the assistants, apparently. He is thibs' aid
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Re: Knicks to Hire Mike Brown as Next Head Coach 

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Post#1091 » by Iron Mantis » Tue Jul 15, 2025 11:29 am

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Re: Knicks to Hire Mike Brown as Next Head Coach 

Post#1092 » by NowWHYcee7 » Tue Jul 15, 2025 11:46 am

It's gonna be hilarious to read the meltdowns when Mike Brown is getting circles coached around him by the likes of Carlisle, Spoelstra, Mazulla, Udoka, etc. Can't wait
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Re: Knicks to Hire Mike Brown as Next Head Coach 

Post#1093 » by Iron Mantis » Tue Jul 15, 2025 12:20 pm

NowWHYcee7 wrote:It's gonna be hilarious to read the meltdowns when Mike Brown is getting circles coached around him by the likes of Carlisle, Spoelstra, Mazulla, Udoka, etc. Can't wait

Hasn't even coached a single game for the team yet and you're predicting failure..

You're rooting against the coach and essentially the Knicks. You "can't wait". Gotcha.
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Re: Knicks to Hire Mike Brown as Next Head Coach 

Post#1094 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Jul 15, 2025 12:37 pm

NowWHYcee7 wrote:It's gonna be hilarious to read the meltdowns when Mike Brown is getting circles coached around him by the likes of Carlisle, Spoelstra, Mazulla, Udoka, etc. Can't wait


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Re: Knicks to Hire Mike Brown as Next Head Coach 

Post#1097 » by 8516knicks » Tue Jul 15, 2025 3:40 pm

He literally couldn't move laterally and laterally couldn't move literally. So what good would he have been? 8-)
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Re: Knicks to Hire Mike Brown as Next Head Coach 

Post#1098 » by NowWHYcee7 » Tue Jul 15, 2025 5:34 pm

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NowWHYcee7 wrote:It's gonna be hilarious to read the meltdowns when Mike Brown is getting circles coached around him by the likes of Carlisle, Spoelstra, Mazulla, Udoka, etc. Can't wait

Hasn't even coached a single game for the team yet and you're predicting failure..

You're rooting against the coach and essentially the Knicks. You "can't wait". Gotcha.


We've all seen this movie before man.

"We are in win now mode, we can't waste our superstars prime, we have to find a way to hire Mike Brown to lead us to a chip"......said NO TEAM EVER....besides the Knicks apparently.

Say what you want about Thibs, yea he had issues, but he was elite at what he did do well, which is build culture and identity with a no nonsense approach and insistence on hard work and defense. This "players coach" garbage will never win anything in this league.

I know it, you all know it too. And you'll all admit it soon when we are underachieving in a year that should ideally be an easy rode for us with a hobbled Indiana, Boston, Milwaukee, and a Heat team in flux. Coaching MATTERS. And we blew it.
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Re: Knicks to Hire Mike Brown as Next Head Coach 

Post#1099 » by Jalen Bluntson » Tue Jul 15, 2025 5:42 pm

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NowWHYcee7 wrote:It's gonna be hilarious to read the meltdowns when Mike Brown is getting circles coached around him by the likes of Carlisle, Spoelstra, Mazulla, Udoka, etc. Can't wait

Hasn't even coached a single game for the team yet and you're predicting failure..

You're rooting against the coach and essentially the Knicks. You "can't wait". Gotcha.


We've all seen this movie before man.

"We are in win now mode, we can't waste our superstars prime, we have to find a way to hire Mike Brown to lead us to a chip"......said NO TEAM EVER....besides the Knicks apparently.

Say what you want about Thibs, yea he had issues, but he was elite at what he did do well, which is build culture and identity with a no nonsense approach and insistence on hard work and defense. This "players coach" garbage will never win anything in this league.

I know it, you all know it too. And you'll all admit it soon when we are underachieving in a year that should ideally be an easy rode for us with a hobbled Indiana, Boston, Milwaukee, and a Heat team in flux. Coaching MATTERS. And we blew it.


Not a fan of the Brown hire but, Thibs peaked and is not a championship level HC. He lost the team from top to bottom like his last two jobs. He needed to go.

What's your issue with Brown exactly?
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Re: Knicks to Hire Mike Brown as Next Head Coach 

Post#1100 » by NowWHYcee7 » Tue Jul 15, 2025 7:46 pm

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Iron Mantis wrote:Hasn't even coached a single game for the team yet and you're predicting failure..

You're rooting against the coach and essentially the Knicks. You "can't wait". Gotcha.


We've all seen this movie before man.

"We are in win now mode, we can't waste our superstars prime, we have to find a way to hire Mike Brown to lead us to a chip"......said NO TEAM EVER....besides the Knicks apparently.

Say what you want about Thibs, yea he had issues, but he was elite at what he did do well, which is build culture and identity with a no nonsense approach and insistence on hard work and defense. This "players coach" garbage will never win anything in this league.

I know it, you all know it too. And you'll all admit it soon when we are underachieving in a year that should ideally be an easy rode for us with a hobbled Indiana, Boston, Milwaukee, and a Heat team in flux. Coaching MATTERS. And we blew it.


Not a fan of the Brown hire but, Thibs peaked and is not a championship level HC. He lost the team from top to bottom like his last two jobs. He needed to go.

What's your issue with Brown exactly?


I wasn’t opposed to replacing thibs but it had to be for the right person and at the right time. How we went about it was absurd. Thibs changed the culture here and turned the team around, with steady progress year after year. ECF this year. And we fire him…..for Mike Brown? In what world does this make sense?

My issue isn’t with Brown it’s with the Knicks. We fired an excellent and respected coach in the league, who got us more results than any coach prior in recent memory, for someone average. thibs wasn’t perfect but he was a brand unto himself. Only certain coaches can say that and only a special quality of person can develop themselves into a brand. A coach of a team in NY has to have that quality to win. And Mike Brown is not that guy, I’m sorry I just have to be honest.

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