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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#821 » by Mik317 » Tue Jul 15, 2025 12:20 am

someone should get fired

i don't care who

just someone needs to pay for this lol
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#822 » by NYSixersFan » Tue Jul 15, 2025 12:31 am

This all very surprising. Nobody could see this coming. Yea, right.

How many times did I tell the fraud GM not to sign George?
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#823 » by NYSixersFan » Tue Jul 15, 2025 12:32 am

Mik317 wrote:someone should get fired

i don't care who

just someone needs to pay for this lol


"someone"? It's obvious who should be fired.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#824 » by Jhawk03 » Tue Jul 15, 2025 12:33 am

I think I've expressed ad nauseam how getting rid of the PG contract should have been a top priority. I honestly don't even care at this point as Morey basically got the privilege to pay George a retirement package.

I'm more optimistic of possibly having Embiid back playing at decent level than I am that PG will ever have a positive impact on the future of this team, and that says a lot.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#825 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Tue Jul 15, 2025 12:46 am

I haven't really gave a crap about Paul George being here anyway. I'm definitely interested in seeing if Embiid can return and what he possibly can bring to the table. George will probably be out for the season so our focus should be on the young guys AND rehabbing and rebuilding Embiids value.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#826 » by Iscull » Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:05 am

Mik317 wrote:someone should get fired

i don't care who

just someone needs to pay for this lol


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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#827 » by mjkvol » Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:10 am

sixers hoops wrote:
mjkvol wrote:It was so clearly a dreadful move to sign George well before it happened, as some of us continuously said on here. It was never going to work anywhere close to the delusional way that some thought (or prayed) it might. I essentially wrote off however many seasons George would be here as lost years, and it only got worse with the Embiid extension.

I've been much more pro-Morey than most on here, but those two moves (whether they were owner originated ideas or his own) at this point are enough to consider his stay here an abject failure in and of themselves. He has essentially tied the Sixers to two max contracts with 3-4 years left for players who can't even get on the court, and will be a shell of what they were if and when they ever do.


It was a dumb idea that really had very little upside. There was a slight chance that everything clicked and they were legit contenders last year, but it was highly unlikely. And Embiid wasn’t even healthy to begin this mess.


$100 million tied up in the cap annually for four years in exchange for a 'slight chance' at contending. That might be the definition of management malpractice.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#828 » by MVP1992 » Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:11 am

No real details of the recent 'injury'.

Same knee he buckled backwards twice last season.

No way he'll trust it 100% again.

Pull the pin PG. Eject.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#829 » by sixers hoops » Tue Jul 15, 2025 2:59 am

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mjkvol wrote:It was so clearly a dreadful move to sign George well before it happened, as some of us continuously said on here. It was never going to work anywhere close to the delusional way that some thought (or prayed) it might. I essentially wrote off however many seasons George would be here as lost years, and it only got worse with the Embiid extension.

I've been much more pro-Morey than most on here, but those two moves (whether they were owner originated ideas or his own) at this point are enough to consider his stay here an abject failure in and of themselves. He has essentially tied the Sixers to two max contracts with 3-4 years left for players who can't even get on the court, and will be a shell of what they were if and when they ever do.


It was a dumb idea that really had very little upside. There was a slight chance that everything clicked and they were legit contenders last year, but it was highly unlikely. And Embiid wasn’t even healthy to begin this mess.

To be honest, I kinda wish we just paid harden. Maybe we win that Knicks series, beat the pacers and then get lucky. Yes, you know he’ll give you some choke jobs, but he also is a good regular season guy and can have a game here and there in the playoffs where he does well.


Harden is a loser. In hindsight, we would have been better off with Harden, but nobody is going to win with Harden. It would have been the lesser of two evils though.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#830 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Tue Jul 15, 2025 3:06 am

I hate to be that guy, but screw Paul George. Give the minutes to Edwards and Council. If Embiid is gonna sit too then let Broome, Bona, and Walker play. The rebuild needs to happen.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#831 » by sixers hoops » Tue Jul 15, 2025 3:08 am

Ultimately, I’m not that bothered. Embiid’s knees are cooked. He will never play consistently enough to make it through a playoff run. If PG were out for the season, at least we could stop the charade. Morey signed two guys that can’t make it through a month healthy to nearly a half-billion in contracts.

And these weren’t freak accidents. Embiid and PG have two of the most notorious injury histories of their generation. Morey is generally willing to chase aging, expensive talent and it’s rarely a winning proposition.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#832 » by HotelVitale » Tue Jul 15, 2025 3:14 am

Y’all heard of this Richaun Holmes mf’er? Wiretap says he’s free at the moment.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#833 » by FlyingArrow » Tue Jul 15, 2025 3:33 am

I like our chances better now. It's not a season ending injury. It will take most of the year to get back to peak. Just in time for the playoffs. You know he wasn't going to be injury free all year. This makes it far more likely that he is healthy for the playoffs.

Hopefully, Joel isn't ready until well after Christmas, so he doesn't get hurt again this year. The young guns stay healthy and gain experience, and do well enough to get us into the playoffs. Championship chances are way better now!

1.5% instead of 0.1%
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#834 » by Iverson Armband » Tue Jul 15, 2025 3:46 am

AI_Efficiency wrote:
sixers hoops wrote:
mjkvol wrote:It was so clearly a dreadful move to sign George well before it happened, as some of us continuously said on here. It was never going to work anywhere close to the delusional way that some thought (or prayed) it might. I essentially wrote off however many seasons George would be here as lost years, and it only got worse with the Embiid extension.

I've been much more pro-Morey than most on here, but those two moves (whether they were owner originated ideas or his own) at this point are enough to consider his stay here an abject failure in and of themselves. He has essentially tied the Sixers to two max contracts with 3-4 years left for players who can't even get on the court, and will be a shell of what they were if and when they ever do.


It was a dumb idea that really had very little upside. There was a slight chance that everything clicked and they were legit contenders last year, but it was highly unlikely. And Embiid wasn’t even healthy to begin this mess.

To be honest, I kinda wish we just paid harden. Maybe we win that Knicks series, beat the pacers and then get lucky. Yes, you know he’ll give you some choke jobs, but he also is a good regular season guy and can have a game here and there in the playoffs where he does well.

Harden would have blocked and gotten in the way of our young guards. And we still wouldn’t have won anything.

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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#835 » by MVP1992 » Tue Jul 15, 2025 3:52 am

FlyingArrow wrote:I like our chances better now. It's not a season ending injury. It will take most of the year to get back to peak. Just in time for the playoffs. You know he wasn't going to be injury free all year. This makes it far more likely that he is healthy for the playoffs.

Hopefully, Joel isn't ready until well after Christmas, so he doesn't get hurt again this year. The young guns stay healthy and gain experience, and do well enough to get us into the playoffs. Championship chances are way better now!

1.5% instead of 0.1%


So, you're saying we have a chance :D


I'd rather 10.5% chance of getting the #1 draft pick.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#836 » by 76ciology » Tue Jul 15, 2025 5:56 am

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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#837 » by 76ciology » Tue Jul 15, 2025 5:59 am

Not having Embiid and Paul George opens up opportunities for guys like Grimes, McCain, Oubre, VJ, Edwards, Broome, Walker, Watford, Barlow, and Bona. It’s hard to predict exactly how we’ll run the team, but I’d expect Oubre to log heavy minutes at small forward, with Edwards likely backing him up. The 4 and 5 spots should be fairly interchangeable between Bona, Drummond, Boone, and Barlow.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#838 » by Kolkmania » Tue Jul 15, 2025 6:24 am

FireMorey wrote:In fairness to Morey if they didn’t sign PG, the cap space would have just been lost when they signed Maxey. That doesn’t mean it was a good signing, it hasn’t been, but it’s also not as damaging as a lot of people think. If you delete PG and his contract from the Sixers right now, they really aren’t in a noticeably different position. Except for luxury tax, but that’s a Josh Harris problem mainly.


Fair point. I didn't think there was a realistic path to building a good team through FA, but my plan at the time to use Tobias Harris his contract to sign two/three quality players (including NT-MLE) would have turned out just as bad. Probably even worse, since it would have made us a better team and therefore preventing us to draft VJ.

We're going to have to sit the Embiid contract out. Use Embiid and George in any meaningful way to support the development of Maxey, McCain and VJ. And quite honestly, once you shift that mindset, it is ok. Those guys are extremely easy prospects to root for.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#839 » by Iscull » Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:27 am

76ciology wrote:Not having Embiid and Paul George opens up opportunities for guys like Grimes, McCain, Oubre, VJ, Edwards, Broome, Walker, Watford, Barlow, and Bona. It’s hard to predict exactly how we’ll run the team, but I’d expect Oubre to log heavy minutes at small forward, with Edwards likely backing him up. The 4 and 5 spots should be fairly interchangeable between Bona, Drummond, Boone, and Barlow.


I think Watford gets a lot of minutes on the wing as a 3/4.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#840 » by 76ciology » Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:52 am

Iscull wrote:
76ciology wrote:Not having Embiid and Paul George opens up opportunities for guys like Grimes, McCain, Oubre, VJ, Edwards, Broome, Walker, Watford, Barlow, and Bona. It’s hard to predict exactly how we’ll run the team, but I’d expect Oubre to log heavy minutes at small forward, with Edwards likely backing him up. The 4 and 5 spots should be fairly interchangeable between Bona, Drummond, Boone, and Barlow.


I think Watford gets a lot of minutes on the wing as a 3/4.


You mean gets the most minutes or just a lot of minutes?
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