LeBron back to Cleveland?

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Re: LeBron back to Cleveland? 

Post#61 » by Wolveswin » Tue Jul 15, 2025 10:30 am

To Bucks: Mobley/Garland/Vincent

To Lakers: Hunter/Kuzma/Strus

To Cavs: Giannis/James/Bronny

Cavs all-in for chip in weak East.

Allen
Giannis
James
Mitchell
Ball
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Re: LeBron back to Cleveland? 

Post#62 » by JujitsuFlip » Tue Jul 15, 2025 12:08 pm

Wolveswin wrote:To Bucks: Mobley/Garland/Vincent

To Lakers: Hunter/Kuzma/Strus

To Cavs: Giannis/James/Bronny

Cavs all-in for chip in weak East.

Allen
Giannis
James
Mitchell
Ball
Not a legal trade under the current CBA.
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Re: LeBron back to Cleveland? 

Post#63 » by druggas » Tue Jul 15, 2025 12:53 pm

Make it happen. Bronny too.
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Re: LeBron back to Cleveland? 

Post#64 » by Wolveswin » Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:20 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:To Bucks: Mobley/Garland/Vincent

To Lakers: Hunter/Kuzma/Strus

To Cavs: Giannis/James/Bronny

Cavs all-in for chip in weak East.

Allen
Giannis
James
Mitchell
Ball
Not a legal trade under the current CBA.

It is. Works in checker. Add a min salary guy leaving Bucks and money works. Cavs below 2nd apron too.
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Re: LeBron back to Cleveland? 

Post#65 » by tamaraw08 » Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:33 pm

Wolveswin wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:To Bucks: Mobley/Garland/Vincent

To Lakers: Hunter/Kuzma/Strus

To Cavs: Giannis/James/Bronny

Cavs all-in for chip in weak East.

Allen
Giannis
James
Mitchell
Ball
Not a legal trade under the current CBA.

It is. Works in checker. Add a min salary guy leaving Bucks and money works. Cavs below 2nd apron too.


Your hatred towards the Lakers have been confirmed with this suggestion.
Also, the Cavs fans would like to welcome you too, to their fold.
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Re: LeBron back to Cleveland? 

Post#66 » by JujitsuFlip » Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:44 pm

Wolveswin wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:To Bucks: Mobley/Garland/Vincent

To Lakers: Hunter/Kuzma/Strus

To Cavs: Giannis/James/Bronny

Cavs all-in for chip in weak East.

Allen
Giannis
James
Mitchell
Ball
Not a legal trade under the current CBA.

It is. Works in checker. Add a min salary guy leaving Bucks and money works. Cavs below 2nd apron too.
No they're not. It's simple math.

Cavs currently are $19 million over the 2nd apron for 13 players plus Rubio's dead cap.

Incoming salary: $108,708,908

Outgoing salary: $125,080,213

You subtract the little number from the big number and what do you get? $16 million.

Cavs are still $3 million into the 2nd apron with your proposed trade. Which means they cannot aggregate salaries, hence an illegal trade.

Idk why you feel the need to litter every thread with unrealistic trades that aren't even legal... Take that junk to the trades and transactions section of RGM.
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Re: LeBron back to Cleveland? 

Post#67 » by Wolveswin » Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:49 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:Not a legal trade under the current CBA.

It is. Works in checker. Add a min salary guy leaving Bucks and money works. Cavs below 2nd apron too.
No they're not. It's simple math.

Cavs currently are $19 million over the 2nd apron for 13 players plus Rubio's dead cap.

Incoming salary: $108,708,908

Outgoing salary: $125,080,213

You subtract the little number from the big number and what do you get? $16 million.

Cavs are still $3 million into the 2nd apron with your proposed trade. Which means they cannot aggregate salaries, hence an illegal trade.

Idk why you feel the need to litter every thread with unrealistic trades that aren't even legal... Take that junk to the trades and transactions section of RGM.

Bronny is a min salary guy and goes into Cavs TPE available after below 2nd apron - check you math general board fake police.
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Re: LeBron back to Cleveland? 

Post#68 » by magee » Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:56 pm

I don't think he'll want to move away from LA because his daughter is still in school. Unless she was cool with going back to Cleveland, I don't see LeBron going back.

I'd love to see him stay in LA, just switch jerseys. Really bring back the best of the 2010's with him, Kawhi, James Harden, Brook Lopez, and maybe both Bradley Beal and Chris Paul. Haha.
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Re: LeBron back to Cleveland? 

Post#69 » by Mamba Mentality » Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:59 pm

Wolveswin wrote:To Bucks: Mobley/Garland/Vincent

To Lakers: Hunter/Kuzma/Strus

To Cavs: Giannis/James/Bronny

Cavs all-in for chip in weak East.

Allen
Giannis
James
Mitchell
Ball


and then we flip all that garbage to the Wolves for Anthony Edwards
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Re: LeBron back to Cleveland? 

Post#70 » by JujitsuFlip » Tue Jul 15, 2025 2:03 pm

Wolveswin wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:It is. Works in checker. Add a min salary guy leaving Bucks and money works. Cavs below 2nd apron too.
No they're not. It's simple math.

Cavs currently are $19 million over the 2nd apron for 13 players plus Rubio's dead cap.

Incoming salary: $108,708,908

Outgoing salary: $125,080,213

You subtract the little number from the big number and what do you get? $16 million.

Cavs are still $3 million into the 2nd apron with your proposed trade. Which means they cannot aggregate salaries, hence an illegal trade.

Idk why you feel the need to litter every thread with unrealistic trades that aren't even legal... Take that junk to the trades and transactions section of RGM.

Bronny is a min salary guy and goes into Cavs TPE available after below 2nd apron - check you math general board fake police.

Doesn't matter bubs, the math still ain't mathing. You take away Bron Jr's salary.

$125,080,213 - $106,753,531 = $18,326,682

Cavs are still in the 2nd apron after your modified, faulty, unrealistic, proposed trade.
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Re: LeBron back to Cleveland? 

Post#71 » by DowJones » Tue Jul 15, 2025 3:26 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:Not a legal trade under the current CBA.

It is. Works in checker. Add a min salary guy leaving Bucks and money works. Cavs below 2nd apron too.
No they're not. It's simple math.

Cavs currently are $19 million over the 2nd apron for 13 players plus Rubio's dead cap.

Incoming salary: $108,708,908

Outgoing salary: $125,080,213

You subtract the little number from the big number and what do you get? $16 million.

Cavs are still $3 million into the 2nd apron with your proposed trade. Which means they cannot aggregate salaries, hence an illegal trade.

Idk why you feel the need to litter every thread with unrealistic trades that aren't even legal... Take that junk to the trades and transactions section of RGM.


Relax. Trade proposals shouldn’t trigger you like this.
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Re: LeBron back to Cleveland? 

Post#72 » by JujitsuFlip » Tue Jul 15, 2025 3:33 pm

DowJones wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:It is. Works in checker. Add a min salary guy leaving Bucks and money works. Cavs below 2nd apron too.
No they're not. It's simple math.

Cavs currently are $19 million over the 2nd apron for 13 players plus Rubio's dead cap.

Incoming salary: $108,708,908

Outgoing salary: $125,080,213

You subtract the little number from the big number and what do you get? $16 million.

Cavs are still $3 million into the 2nd apron with your proposed trade. Which means they cannot aggregate salaries, hence an illegal trade.

Idk why you feel the need to litter every thread with unrealistic trades that aren't even legal... Take that junk to the trades and transactions section of RGM.


Relax. Trade proposals shouldn’t trigger you like this.
Bruh no, its literally in every single thread. We have an entire section of the website dedicated to this. Called the T&T section.

We don't need illegal unrealistic trades in every single GB thread.

This cat has zero clue about any of the teams he's proposing trades for. That's why he's completely clueless to the fact Proctor signed a 4 year $8.6 million deal on July 1st and makes his trade invalid.
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Re: LeBron back to Cleveland? 

Post#73 » by Iwasawitness » Tue Jul 15, 2025 4:12 pm

Wolveswin wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:It is. Works in checker. Add a min salary guy leaving Bucks and money works. Cavs below 2nd apron too.
No they're not. It's simple math.

Cavs currently are $19 million over the 2nd apron for 13 players plus Rubio's dead cap.

Incoming salary: $108,708,908

Outgoing salary: $125,080,213

You subtract the little number from the big number and what do you get? $16 million.

Cavs are still $3 million into the 2nd apron with your proposed trade. Which means they cannot aggregate salaries, hence an illegal trade.

Idk why you feel the need to litter every thread with unrealistic trades that aren't even legal... Take that junk to the trades and transactions section of RGM.

Bronny is a min salary guy and goes into Cavs TPE available after below 2nd apron - check you math general board fake police.


You have no clue how trades work, do you?
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Re: LeBron back to Cleveland? 

Post#74 » by Wolveswin » Tue Jul 15, 2025 5:14 pm

Iwasawitness wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:No they're not. It's simple math.

Cavs currently are $19 million over the 2nd apron for 13 players plus Rubio's dead cap.

Incoming salary: $108,708,908

Outgoing salary: $125,080,213

You subtract the little number from the big number and what do you get? $16 million.

Cavs are still $3 million into the 2nd apron with your proposed trade. Which means they cannot aggregate salaries, hence an illegal trade.

Idk why you feel the need to litter every thread with unrealistic trades that aren't even legal... Take that junk to the trades and transactions section of RGM.

Bronny is a min salary guy and goes into Cavs TPE available after below 2nd apron - check you math general board fake police.


You have no clue how trades work, do you?

If you know better than trade machines - reach out to those folks Mr know it all.
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Re: LeBron back to Cleveland? 

Post#75 » by Wolveswin » Tue Jul 15, 2025 5:19 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
DowJones wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:No they're not. It's simple math.

Cavs currently are $19 million over the 2nd apron for 13 players plus Rubio's dead cap.

Incoming salary: $108,708,908

Outgoing salary: $125,080,213

You subtract the little number from the big number and what do you get? $16 million.

Cavs are still $3 million into the 2nd apron with your proposed trade. Which means they cannot aggregate salaries, hence an illegal trade.

Idk why you feel the need to litter every thread with unrealistic trades that aren't even legal... Take that junk to the trades and transactions section of RGM.


Relax. Trade proposals shouldn’t trigger you like this.
Bruh no, its literally in every single thread. We have an entire section of the website dedicated to this. Called the T&T section.

We don't need illegal unrealistic trades in every single GB thread.

This cat has zero clue about any of the teams he's proposing trades for. That's why he's completely clueless to the fact Proctor signed a 4 year $8.6 million deal on July 1st and makes his trade invalid.

Relax, trade proposal shouldn’t trigger you like this.

Who is Proctor?

Trade works in checker. But if you know better than- we will start asking you first. Makes sense a message board bloke knows better. That tracks.

You can’t explain the unrealistic?

Mobley/Garland is very realistic for Giannis. I would bet Cavs fans think that is overpay.

James will not warrant more than players like Hunter/Kuzma/Strus. 41yo 50M plus James just doesn’t.
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Re: LeBron back to Cleveland? 

Post#76 » by flow » Tue Jul 15, 2025 5:23 pm

Wolveswin wrote:To Bucks: Mobley/Garland/Vincent

To Lakers: Hunter/Kuzma/Strus

To Cavs: Giannis/James/Bronny

Cavs all-in for chip in weak East.

Allen
Giannis
James
Mitchell
Ball


Mobley's a nice piece, but the Bucks aren't doing that. Not after waiving Dame to sign Turner for the specific purpose of playing him with Giannis.

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Post#77 » by jbk1234 » Tue Jul 15, 2025 6:07 pm

It's pretty wild how every NBA reporter with knowledge says the Cavs aren't interested in blowing up their team to add LBJ on a max deal and it washes off fans like water of a duck.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Re: LeBron back to Cleveland? 

Post#78 » by JujitsuFlip » Tue Jul 15, 2025 6:26 pm

Wolveswin wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
DowJones wrote:
Relax. Trade proposals shouldn’t trigger you like this.
Bruh no, its literally in every single thread. We have an entire section of the website dedicated to this. Called the T&T section.

We don't need illegal unrealistic trades in every single GB thread.

This cat has zero clue about any of the teams he's proposing trades for. That's why he's completely clueless to the fact Proctor signed a 4 year $8.6 million deal on July 1st and makes his trade invalid.

Relax, trade proposal shouldn’t trigger you like this.

Who is Proctor?

Trade works in checker. But if you know better than- we will start asking you first. Makes sense a message board bloke knows better. That tracks.

You can’t explain the unrealistic?

Mobley/Garland is very realistic for Giannis. I would bet Cavs fans think that is overpay.

James will not warrant more than players like Hunter/Kuzma/Strus. 41yo 50M plus James just doesn’t.
Who is Proctor lmao wow, i should stop my reply right there.

He's the Cavs 2025 draft pick... That they signed July 1st (https://www.nba.com/cavaliers/news/cavaliers-sign-2025-draft-pick-tyrese-proctor)

ESPN trade machine has his salary as N/A but we know that's not a numerical value, correct?

So we go over to Spotrac trade machine and they have his salary at $0 but we know he won't play for free, correct? Logic tells us that. We click his name and see in 2025-26 he will earn $1,272,870. It's 2025 we all carry around calculators in our pockets, so we can do the math ourselves, correct? Or is that thinking too far outside of the box?

The only trade machine that does not list Proctor at all is Fanspo but if you knew anything about the teams you're trying to create trades for, you'd be aware of that.

Even the RGM trade checker has Proctor
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Re: LeBron back to Cleveland? 

Post#79 » by Wolveswin » Tue Jul 15, 2025 6:40 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:Bruh no, its literally in every single thread. We have an entire section of the website dedicated to this. Called the T&T section.

We don't need illegal unrealistic trades in every single GB thread.

This cat has zero clue about any of the teams he's proposing trades for. That's why he's completely clueless to the fact Proctor signed a 4 year $8.6 million deal on July 1st and makes his trade invalid.

Relax, trade proposal shouldn’t trigger you like this.

Who is Proctor?

Trade works in checker. But if you know better than- we will start asking you first. Makes sense a message board bloke knows better. That tracks.

You can’t explain the unrealistic?

Mobley/Garland is very realistic for Giannis. I would bet Cavs fans think that is overpay.

James will not warrant more than players like Hunter/Kuzma/Strus. 41yo 50M plus James just doesn’t.
Who is Proctor lmao wow, i should stop my reply right there.

He's the Cavs 2025 draft pick... That they signed July 1st (https://www.nba.com/cavaliers/news/cavaliers-sign-2025-draft-pick-tyrese-proctor)

ESPN trade machine has his salary as N/A but we know that's not a numerical value, correct?

So we go over to Spotrac trade machine and they have his salary at $0 but we know he won't play for free, correct? Logic tells us that. We click his name and see in 2025-26 he will earn $1,272,870. It's 2025 we all carry around calculators in our pockets, so we can do the math ourselves, correct? Or is that thinking too far outside of the box?

The only trade machine that does not list Proctor at all is Fanspo but if you knew anything about the teams you're trying to create trades for, you'd be aware of that.

Even the RGM trade checker has Proctor

Proctor isn’t involved in the trade proposed.
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Re: LeBron back to Cleveland? 

Post#80 » by toooskies » Tue Jul 15, 2025 6:42 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:Bruh no, its literally in every single thread. We have an entire section of the website dedicated to this. Called the T&T section.

We don't need illegal unrealistic trades in every single GB thread.

This cat has zero clue about any of the teams he's proposing trades for. That's why he's completely clueless to the fact Proctor signed a 4 year $8.6 million deal on July 1st and makes his trade invalid.

Relax, trade proposal shouldn’t trigger you like this.

Who is Proctor?

Trade works in checker. But if you know better than- we will start asking you first. Makes sense a message board bloke knows better. That tracks.

You can’t explain the unrealistic?

Mobley/Garland is very realistic for Giannis. I would bet Cavs fans think that is overpay.

James will not warrant more than players like Hunter/Kuzma/Strus. 41yo 50M plus James just doesn’t.
Who is Proctor lmao wow, i should stop my reply right there.

He's the Cavs 2025 draft pick... That they signed July 1st (https://www.nba.com/cavaliers/news/cavaliers-sign-2025-draft-pick-tyrese-proctor)

ESPN trade machine has his salary as N/A but we know that's not a numerical value, correct?

So we go over to Spotrac trade machine and they have his salary at $0 but we know he won't play for free, correct? Logic tells us that. We click his name and see in 2025-26 he will earn $1,272,870. It's 2025 we all carry around calculators in our pockets, so we can do the math ourselves, correct? Or is that thinking too far outside of the box?

The only trade machine that does not list Proctor at all is Fanspo but if you knew anything about the teams you're trying to create trades for, you'd be aware of that.

Even the RGM trade checker has Proctor

Hey man, it's okay to not know the 2nd round pick signings at this point in summer league.

You can go after the much more low-hanging fruit that the Cavs would need to make another salary dump just sign veteran minimums to get their roster up to 14 players.

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