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Snidely FC wrote:All this talk about surrounding free lancers like Lamelo and Brandon with guys who create great structure and then you waive a player like Okogie: hypocrisy
EmpireFalls wrote:Blame the Dinwiddie and Plumlee signings for this.
MasterIchiro wrote:It simply means the owners, who are greedy pieces of ****, would not authorize Okogie at 7.7.
yosemiteben wrote:MasterIchiro wrote:It simply means the owners, who are greedy pieces of ****, would not authorize Okogie at 7.7.
The way you've made this narrative your primary view of ownership is wild to me.
Our salary was basically league average last year, how does that fit this narrative?
MasterIchiro wrote:yosemiteben wrote:MasterIchiro wrote:It simply means the owners, who are greedy pieces of ****, would not authorize Okogie at 7.7.
The way you've made this narrative your primary view of ownership is wild to me.
Our salary was basically league average last year, how does that fit this narrative?
IDGAF what you think while you're so wildly making apologies for them.
And our payroll was near the bottom. Average? Where the **** do you get that?
MasterIchiro wrote:yosemiteben wrote:MasterIchiro wrote:It simply means the owners, who are greedy pieces of ****, would not authorize Okogie at 7.7.
The way you've made this narrative your primary view of ownership is wild to me.
Our salary was basically league average last year, how does that fit this narrative?
IDGAF what you think while you're so wildly making apologies for them.
MasterIchiro wrote:And our payroll was near the bottom. Average? Where the **** do you get that?
fatlever wrote:MasterIchiro wrote:yosemiteben wrote:The way you've made this narrative your primary view of ownership is wild to me.
Our salary was basically league average last year, how does that fit this narrative?
IDGAF what you think while you're so wildly making apologies for them.
And our payroll was near the bottom. Average? Where the **** do you get that?
cutting okogie isn't a money issue. its a roster limit issue. we still have to cut 3 more players.
use a better example of the cheapness. this isnt it.
MasterIchiro wrote:fatlever wrote:MasterIchiro wrote:
IDGAF what you think while you're so wildly making apologies for them.
And our payroll was near the bottom. Average? Where the **** do you get that?
cutting okogie isn't a money issue. its a roster limit issue. we still have to cut 3 more players.
use a better example of the cheapness. this isnt it.
2 vet mins + 4 rookie scale provide any hint to you about their spending habits?
This is hard for you?
fatlever wrote:MasterIchiro wrote:fatlever wrote:
cutting okogie isn't a money issue. its a roster limit issue. we still have to cut 3 more players.
use a better example of the cheapness. this isnt it.
2 vet mins + 4 rookie scale provide any hint to you about their spending habits?
This is hard for you?
you equate jeff continuing to build slowly through the draft with a mandate from the owners to be cheap. thats your guess, based on zero intel - yet you present this as a fact.
No one is arguing that having 4 rookies will ultimately lead to less money spent this year, but to say that it was a mandate from the owners is a leap.
I didn't agree with rostering 4 rookies this year and I didn't agree with the Mason signing. I don't believe either of those things was a mandate from the owners to be cheap.
The Jordan ownership was cheap. We have 15 years of evidence to support that fact. I'm not willing to say that these owners are cheap after only 18 months of rebuilding A **** **** roster - While Simultaneously investing money in all other parts of the business that were ignored for 15 years.
yosemiteben wrote:Hey MI - what's our committed salary right now for next season? Is that something that you looked up before you landed on this narrative?
Bassman wrote:Don’t see cheap as the prevailing issue. It really is a Jeffie issue. He went shopping, went a little crazy cause he assumed he could make trades to consolidate, and failed. Also surprised he didn’t trade both 2nds to get one first rounder. A better quality pick plus one less body.
Whatever, he didn’t manage this well. Okogie wasn’t valued enough at this point by other teams at that salary level.
MasterIchiro wrote:fatlever wrote:MasterIchiro wrote:
2 vet mins + 4 rookie scale provide any hint to you about their spending habits?
This is hard for you?
you equate jeff continuing to build slowly through the draft with a mandate from the owners to be cheap. thats your guess, based on zero intel - yet you present this as a fact.
No one is arguing that having 4 rookies will ultimately lead to less money spent this year, but to say that it was a mandate from the owners is a leap.
I didn't agree with rostering 4 rookies this year and I didn't agree with the Mason signing. I don't believe either of those things was a mandate from the owners to be cheap.
The Jordan ownership was cheap. We have 15 years of evidence to support that fact. I'm not willing to say that these owners are cheap after only 18 months of rebuilding A **** **** roster - While Simultaneously investing money in all other parts of the business that were ignored for 15 years.
I don't care if you're in denial about the new owners being cheap. Half the roster is budget.
There's 1 big multiyear contract on the team - Melo. Not even a max or supermax. A rookie supermax.
1 mid with 2 years - Miles
Sexton - expiring
2 vet mins added
4 rookie scale added
2 existing rookie scale (Miller, Salaün)
NicRic dumped just prior to raise
Mark Williams dumped prior to raise
Moussa existing min
Tre Mann below MLE
Grant Williams below MLE
Josh Green below MLE
Do you look at this roster and forecast serious longterm or shorterm spending?
If so, you are not as good at basic math as I am at weaving narratives.
This is **** NOT HARD.
fatlever wrote:https://www.spotrac.com/nba/charlotte-hornets/yearly
MasterIchiro wrote:yosemiteben wrote:Hey MI - what's our committed salary right now for next season? Is that something that you looked up before you landed on this narrative?
Narrative my ass.