LBJ to Dallas, with Utah and Miami

[pipfan]

Lakers send LBJ to Dallas along with Bronny, Knecht to Utah
Lakers get Lauri/Gafford

Utah sends Lauri to Lakers
Utah gets Rozier, JJJ, Knecht, Prosper, LAL 1st in 2029

Dallas sends PJ/Klay to Miami and Gafford to LAL and the LAL 2029 1st to Utah along with Prosper
Dallas gets LBJ

Miami sends Rozier/JJJ to Utah
Miami gets PJ/Klay

Miami gets 2 nice rotation pieces with PJ/Klay-helps their bench a lot

Utah saves A TON of $ and adds JJJ/Knecht/Prosper plus the LAL 20291st

Dallas goes for a title with LBJ/Flagg/Irving/AD/Lively. Need a bit of depth, but LBJ could unlock the whole team

LAL get Luka a perfect 4/5 combo long term

[babyjax13]

Zero interest in this at all. Mediocre prospects (but at least Knecht and Jaquez are NBA players - OMP, not so much) and a first in 4 years from a team with Luka, no thanks.

[babyjax13]

Also, looking at this differently, this deal basically says LeBron = Lauri. Maybe that is true, though I think even at his age and on an expiring deal LeBron has more value than people would think.

[BBallFreak]

I love this for Miami! Turning Rozier and JJJ into Washington and Thompson essentially turns us into a perfect team minus the star player. The depth would be sick.

Pg: Herro / Mitchell
Sg: Powell / Thompson
Sf: Wiggins / Highsmith
Pf: Bam / Jovic
C: Ware / Washington

Swap out Wiggins, Herro, or Powell (along with other assets) for a star player and Miami is right back in the thick of contention IMO...

[AingesBurner]

Utah never answers the lakers phone call again.

[ThatBoyNick]

I don’t think Lauri is positive value, I’d imagine the Lakers prefer to keep their cap clean for better future FA’s and trades

[Darren]

Utah never answers the lakers phone call again.

LAL has robbery instant with hypnosis skills. Look at the Luka trade, you learn that. Don't lower the price of either Markkanen or Klesser. Of else, your GM will join the firing competition with Nico. That's beyond astonishing. Players looking good in LA doesn't mean the same thing playing as a vocal point. Those stats are unrepeatable. Knecht is fool gold. Broony is undersized combo guard that are nowhere close to franchise cornerstone pieces. So is Reaves.

[SlimShady83]

Lakers say Yes please, as for other teams??

[Gert42]

I agree with BabyJax, unfortunately the Jazz already have enough young guys who haven't really proved themselves enough so adding JJJ, Knecht and Prosper becomes more guys fighting for time that most likely will not be on the next good Jazz team.

[Hugi Mancura]

Also, looking at this differently, this deal basically says LeBron = Lauri. Maybe that is true, though I think even at his age and on an expiring deal LeBron has more value than people would think.

This trade would only happen if LeBron demands a trade and LeBron has 'no trade' -clause, so LeBron trade value would be nowhere near the skill level of LeBron.

Most likely it will take 3-5 years before Utah reaches playoffs and most likely even longer, so keeping Lauri would be stupid. So even if his value would be higher in minds of Utah FO and fans, getting even a single first round pick for him is a win. His value will most likely go down even more next season.

[babyjax13]

Also, looking at this differently, this deal basically says LeBron = Lauri. Maybe that is true, though I think even at his age and on an expiring deal LeBron has more value than people would think.

This trade would only happen if LeBron demands a trade and LeBron has 'no trade' -clause, so LeBron trade value would be nowhere near the skill level of LeBron.

Most likely it will take 3-5 years before Utah reaches playoffs and most likely even longer, so keeping Lauri would be stupid. So even if his value would be higher in minds of Utah FO and fans, getting even a single first round pick for him is a win. His value will most likely go down even more next season.

Unless he plays well, then it will go up. I see nothing worth trading him for here.

[jayjaysee]

I don’t think LBJ calls for PJ, Gafford and an unprotected first if he asks out. Will never know (don’t see LBJ getting traded)

If Dallas does this, LAL should just cut everyone out. Honestly, they could cut Miami out and add the 2031 first with some protection to Utah with all of their mid-sized contracts?

Gafford/PJ/Lauri/Reaves/Luka?

[Texas Chuck]

yeah LA would cut everyone but Dallas out. Get good players who fit and continue their path to free agency they seem hellbent on. Why in the world would LA of all places settle on Lauri? Makes no sense at all.

[pipfan]

I REALLY like the idea of Lauri/Gafford for Luka’s team-Lauri would be an awesome second option with a good passer, and we know Gafford would fit.
Miami is here to add JJJ/the expiring Rozier deal. They make out like bandits-but I’m counting Klay as a negative deal

[Hugi Mancura]

Also, looking at this differently, this deal basically says LeBron = Lauri. Maybe that is true, though I think even at his age and on an expiring deal LeBron has more value than people would think.

This trade would only happen if LeBron demands a trade and LeBron has 'no trade' -clause, so LeBron trade value would be nowhere near the skill level of LeBron.

Most likely it will take 3-5 years before Utah reaches playoffs and most likely even longer, so keeping Lauri would be stupid. So even if his value would be higher in minds of Utah FO and fans, getting even a single first round pick for him is a win. His value will most likely go down even more next season.

Unless he plays well, then it will go up. I see nothing worth trading him for here.

Sure, but Utah is adding Bailey who will be taking more shots than Lauri, so amount of shots left for Lauri will go down. Lauri's offense relies heavily on other people passing him the ball at the right time. And they did run a lot of plays for Lauri in his first years with Utah. Now because they try to evaluate the young guys they won't be running plays for him, so the quality of shots won't be any better than they were last year. So less shots and with same quality than last year most likely means his ppg will go down. Less points in very bad team means less trade value.

[Darren]

Do you know Bailey do not want to report to Utah at all?

[TheShow2021]

As someone who doesn't watch the Jazz: Doesn't Lauri's offensive value go WAY down when he's sharing the court with a rim running/ non shooting center? Isn't he much better off with the center spacing in the corner, and he gets the whole paint to himself in the high pick and roll? He seems deadly in the latter scenario and much more of a dual threat for the 3 or dunk.

[jayjaysee]

I REALLY like the idea of Lauri/Gafford for Luka’s team-Lauri would be an awesome second option with a good passer, and we know Gafford would fit.
Miami is here to add JJJ/the expiring Rozier deal. They make out like bandits-but I’m counting Klay as a negative deal

Yeah, Miami gets a great deal imo but that’s why they shouldn’t be involved. LAL would be better off getting PJ and Klay. JJJ doesn’t hold that much value that would stop LAL from cutting Miami out..

LA cutting everyone out is still my favorite option. Just be the Mavs with Reaves instead of Kyrie for a year and next offseason they’ll be able to trade 3 firsts with Klay/Vandy as the main salary filler at that point.

[SA37]

I REALLY like the idea of Lauri/Gafford for Luka’s team-Lauri would be an awesome second option with a good passer, and we know Gafford would fit.
Miami is here to add JJJ/the expiring Rozier deal. They make out like bandits-but I’m counting Klay as a negative deal

Yeah, Miami gets a great deal imo but that’s why they shouldn’t be involved. LAL would be better off getting PJ and Klay. JJJ doesn’t hold that much value that would stop LAL from cutting Miami out..

LA cutting everyone out is still my favorite option. Just be the Mavs with Reaves instead of Kyrie for a year and next offseason they’ll be able to trade 3 firsts with Klay/Vandy as the main salary filler at that point.

Yeah, I think all the arguments for the Lakers cutting everyone out and dealing directly with Dallas make sense, but the problem is financial. Unless the Mavs can take back more salary than they send out, they'd have to send 4-5 players. Washington, Klay, and Gafford make $45M combined, so Dallas would have to send out C Martin, Naji Marshall, or Hardy. I imagine Dallas would insist it be Martin going out.

Lively / McGee / Powell
AD / Marshall
LeBron / Marshall
Flagg / Christie
Irving / D Russell / Exum

Gafford / Ayton
Washington / Hachimura
Thompson / Knecht
Reaves / Martin / LaRavia
Doncic / Vincent

[jayjaysee]

I REALLY like the idea of Lauri/Gafford for Luka’s team-Lauri would be an awesome second option with a good passer, and we know Gafford would fit.
Miami is here to add JJJ/the expiring Rozier deal. They make out like bandits-but I’m counting Klay as a negative deal

Yeah, Miami gets a great deal imo but that’s why they shouldn’t be involved. LAL would be better off getting PJ and Klay. JJJ doesn’t hold that much value that would stop LAL from cutting Miami out..

LA cutting everyone out is still my favorite option. Just be the Mavs with Reaves instead of Kyrie for a year and next offseason they’ll be able to trade 3 firsts with Klay/Vandy as the main salary filler at that point.

Yeah, I think all the arguments for the Lakers cutting everyone out and dealing directly with Dallas make sense, but the problem is financial. Unless the Mavs can take back more salary than they send out, they'd have to send 4-5 players. Washington, Klay, and Gafford make $45M combined, so Dallas would have to send out C Martin, Naji Marshall, or Hardy. I imagine Dallas would insist it be Martin going out.

Lively / McGee / Powell
AD / Marshall
LeBron / Marshall
Flagg / Christie
Irving / D Russell / Exum

Gafford / Ayton
Washington / Hachimura
Thompson / Knecht
Reaves / Martin / LaRavia
Doncic / Vincent

I don’t think that’s really a problem for either side.

You add a third team getting a vet min or two to play with the money if needed.

I really don’t think Dallas owes the 2029 first, but if that’s the consensus- sure. Feels similar to people asking for PJ/Gaff/two firsts for KD (or Green/Brooks/two firsts)…

The end result is Dallas getting a one year deep playoff run where maybe OKC has injuries and Dallas doesn’t… and LAL being set up really nicely to stay a top 5 seed through Luka’s prime..