2025 Summer League

[FrenchMinnyFan]

I'd be comfortable going 4-0 and not making a silly summer league playoff. There's nothing to be gained and plenty to lose.

I like winning. So I want us to play two extra games and win the SL title. There are 82 games and however many practices where players can get injured also. Plus preseason games, falling in the shower, getting injured in an auto accident. I'm not going to be worried about injuries in an extra SL game. There's one additional SL game for the teams that don't make the playoff anyway.

Don’t underestimate too the injuries risk getting many baby mamas

[KGdaBom]

I'd be comfortable going 4-0 and not making a silly summer league playoff. There's nothing to be gained and plenty to lose.

I like winning. So I want us to play two extra games and win the SL title. There are 82 games and however many practices where players can get injured also. Plus preseason games, falling in the shower, getting injured in an auto accident. I'm not going to be worried about injuries in an extra SL game. There's one additional SL game for the teams that don't make the playoff anyway.

Don’t underestimate too the injuries risk getting many baby mamas

I didn't think about that one.

[Slim Tubby]

Tsj and jaylen are too good for SL. See no positives of them there.

You're apparently watching a different Clark than the rest of us. He's been a disaster in the SL thus far. He's not even sniffing meaningful rotational minutes at this point.

As for TJ, if he doesn't solve his turnover issues, he hurts us as much as he helps. He has incredible physical talent so hopefully he figures it out.

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[minimus]

Miller is the worst player on the floor right now: black hole in offense and cone in defense.

From watching the game Miller doesn't stand out as being all that bad. His defense has been fine, he's leading the team in rebounds, and he should have a few assists as well (if anyone could hit an open 3).

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Watch closely first three DET possessions: you can see all sort of defensive mistakes from Miller missed rotations, poor executed closeout. It resulted in 7 points from DET. Sure, it not completely his fault, but compare with Joan effort, who is giving it all on the floor.

[winforlose]

Jed with a team high +21 is crazy to me. I didn’t check the box till the end, and that was the biggest surprise.

JB showed his weakest aspect of his game. The thing they need to help him develop is the defense against the downhill drive. Most of his fouls came off the drive or adjusting to the pass after it. This is not a criticism, just an observation.

Dilly going 7 of 17 from the field for 16 points puts him at 17 of 46 for 46 points. Dilly is shooting 36.96% from the field and 35.29% from 2. Dilly also had 4 ASTs and 4 TOs in this game. He is now at 19/13 AST/TO or 1.46 assists per turnover.

If I was HC I would move Clark to 13th man based on his performance thus far. He might climb back up, but he looked bad in all 3 games IMO.

BTW Jed is honestly the dumbest nickname I've seen on RealGM in the last three weeks, and I've seen a lot of dumb nicknames suggested.

Why? I was writing out JEdwards, and I decided to shorten it to Jed. We have a superstar Edwards, and even though everyone calls him Ant, I don’t want visitors who don’t know Jesse Edwards to get confused. Honestly what is wrong with Jed, or would it be better as JED?

[KGdaBom]

Tsj and jaylen are too good for SL. See no positives of them there.

You're apparently watching a different Clark than the rest of us. He's been a disaster in the SL thus far. He's not even sniffing meaningful rotational minutes at this point.

As for TJ, if he doesn't solve his turnover issues, he hurts us as much as he helps. He has incredible physical talent so hopefully he figures it out.

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TO issues are exaggerated in SL due to how these players have almost no practice time together and the dubious level of talent the players are working with. I really doubt that TSJ will have significant TO issues when the games count. Time will tell.

[KGdaBom]

Jed with a team high +21 is crazy to me. I didn’t check the box till the end, and that was the biggest surprise.

JB showed his weakest aspect of his game. The thing they need to help him develop is the defense against the downhill drive. Most of his fouls came off the drive or adjusting to the pass after it. This is not a criticism, just an observation.

Dilly going 7 of 17 from the field for 16 points puts him at 17 of 46 for 46 points. Dilly is shooting 36.96% from the field and 35.29% from 2. Dilly also had 4 ASTs and 4 TOs in this game. He is now at 19/13 AST/TO or 1.46 assists per turnover.

If I was HC I would move Clark to 13th man based on his performance thus far. He might climb back up, but he looked bad in all 3 games IMO.

BTW Jed is honestly the dumbest nickname I've seen on RealGM in the last three weeks, and I've seen a lot of dumb nicknames suggested.

Why? I was writing out JEdwards, and I decided to shorten it to Jed. We have a superstar Edwards, and thought everyone calls him Ant, I don’t want visitors who don’t know Jesse Edwards to get confused. Honestly what is wrong with Jed, or would it be better as JED?

JED IMO isn't as horrible as Klomp thinks, but it just sounds so Beverley Hillbillies to me.

[winforlose]

BTW Jed is honestly the dumbest nickname I've seen on RealGM in the last three weeks, and I've seen a lot of dumb nicknames suggested.

Why? I was writing out JEdwards, and I decided to shorten it to Jed. We have a superstar Edwards, and thought everyone calls him Ant, I don’t want visitors who don’t know Jesse Edwards to get confused. Honestly what is wrong with Jed, or would it be better as JED?

JED IMO isn't as horrible as Klomp thinks, but it just sounds so Beverley Hillbillies to me.

So you prefer JED to Jed? I don’t like JEd but I guess that is on the table.

[KGdaBom]

Breakdown of the current point differentials and final matchups before tournament play
Raptors 23.5 (44, 3, 4) vs. Warriors (1-1)
Spurs 16.7 (41, 7, 2) vs. Hornets (3-0)
Thunder 15.0 (9, 19, 17) vs. Pelicans (0-2)
Kings 12.7 (3, 17, 18) vs. Cavaliers (2-1)
Timberwolves 11.3 (7, 11, 16) vs. Suns (1-2)
Hawks 9.3 (7, 18, 3) vs. Grizzlies (1-1)
Clippers 9.0 (3, 15, 9) vs. Nuggets (0-3)
Hornets 8.7 (6, 2, 18) vs. Spurs (3-0)

Thank you very much for this Klomp. One thing nobody has pointed out yet is that since the Spurs and Hornets play each other one of them will be eliminated. If the Hornets win the Wolves would move up to 4 with a win unless they lose their points differential placement. If the Spurs win we need another 3-0 team to lose. I like our chances to win and increase our point differential against the Suns. Based on SL record the Kings vs Cavaliers game should be close.

[KGdaBom]

Why? I was writing out JEdwards, and I decided to shorten it to Jed. We have a superstar Edwards, and thought everyone calls him Ant, I don’t want visitors who don’t know Jesse Edwards to get confused. Honestly what is wrong with Jed, or would it be better as JED?

JED IMO isn't as horrible as Klomp thinks, but it just sounds so Beverley Hillbillies to me.

So you prefer JED to Jed? I don’t like JEd but I guess that is on the table.

This is being drastically overanalyzed. JEd would be my preference I suppose. I kind of want Jedi just because Jedi Knights are cool.

[Norseman79]

JED IMO isn't as horrible as Klomp thinks, but it just sounds so Beverley Hillbillies to me.

So you prefer JED to Jed? I don’t like JEd but I guess that is on the table.

This is being drastically overanalyzed. JEd would be my preference I suppose. I kind of want Jedi just because Jedi Knights are cool.

But Jedwa is not

[Klomp]

Tsj and jaylen are too good for SL. See no positives of them there.

Disagree. He's showing things this week that we have never really seen from him to this point in his career.

[dschroeder01]

On Clark, I think it's worth distinguishing the difference between playing poorly and shooting poorly. Clark did the thing he's good at in these games playing great defense (other than one bad drive allowed that I saw), but his 3s didn't go in like we'd want overall. Looking closer though, it' really just the 0-5 game from 3 that was bad. This last one vs. Detroit had him 2-6 with one of the misses being an end of clock grenade thrown to him...so 2-5 (40%). He was 2-6 in game 2. No matter how good a shooter, there is going to be variance from 3 in small samples.

Clark's offensive game is limited. He really does look like a true 3 and D player at this point so the 3 pt shooting is critical, but that still doesn't make him immune from variance. He could be a 40% 3 pt shooter and have 3 game stretches where he shoots 25%. His shooting form looks consistent and he has good shot preparation. I'm not ready to say he's unplayable because he shot poorly in a small sample for the same reason I wasn't ready to say he was a good shooter because he made 3s last season in limited action. The jury is still out.

[Klomp]

Jed with a team high +21 is crazy to me. I didn’t check the box till the end, and that was the biggest surprise.

JB showed his weakest aspect of his game. The thing they need to help him develop is the defense against the downhill drive. Most of his fouls came off the drive or adjusting to the pass after it. This is not a criticism, just an observation.

Dilly going 7 of 17 from the field for 16 points puts him at 17 of 46 for 46 points. Dilly is shooting 36.96% from the field and 35.29% from 2. Dilly also had 4 ASTs and 4 TOs in this game. He is now at 19/13 AST/TO or 1.46 assists per turnover.

If I was HC I would move Clark to 13th man based on his performance thus far. He might climb back up, but he looked bad in all 3 games IMO.

BTW Jed is honestly the dumbest nickname I've seen on RealGM in the last three weeks, and I've seen a lot of dumb nicknames suggested.

Why? I was writing out JEdwards, and I decided to shorten it to Jed. We have a superstar Edwards, and even though everyone calls him Ant, I don’t want visitors who don’t know Jesse Edwards to get confused. Honestly what is wrong with Jed, or would it be better as JED?

Or, you know, you could call him Jesse?

[winforlose]

On Clark, I think it's worth distinguishing the difference between playing poorly and shooting poorly. Clark did the thing he's good at in these games playing great defense (other than one bad drive allowed that I saw), but his 3s didn't go in like we'd want overall. Looking closer though, it' really just the 0-5 game from 3 that was bad. This last one vs. Detroit had him 2-6 with one of the misses being an end of clock grenade thrown to him...so 2-5 (40%). He was 2-6 in game 2. No matter how good a shooter, there is going to be variance from 3 in small samples.

Clark's offensive game is limited. He really does look like a true 3 and D player at this point so the 3 pt shooting is critical, but that still doesn't make him immune from variance. He could be a 40% 3 pt shooter and have 3 game stretches where he shoots 25%. His shooting form looks consistent and he has good shot preparation. I'm not ready to say he's unplayable because he shot poorly in a small sample for the same reason I wasn't ready to say he was a good shooter because he made 3s last season in limited action. The jury is still out.

No rebounds, bad defense, and 6 points on 7 shots. This is SL, not the NBA. Players who don’t stand out here, don’t tend to be rotation worthy on contenders there.

[winforlose]

BTW Jed is honestly the dumbest nickname I've seen on RealGM in the last three weeks, and I've seen a lot of dumb nicknames suggested.

Why? I was writing out JEdwards, and I decided to shorten it to Jed. We have a superstar Edwards, and even though everyone calls him Ant, I don’t want visitors who don’t know Jesse Edwards to get confused. Honestly what is wrong with Jed, or would it be better as JED?

Or, you know, you could call him Jesse?

5 letters vs 3. Plus that is his first name, not a nickname. Feels like a cop out if I am being honest. It will stay Jed until you come up with something better.

[Klomp]

Breakdown of the current point differentials and final matchups before tournament play
Raptors 23.5 (44, 3, 4) vs. Warriors (1-1)
Spurs 16.7 (41, 7, 2) vs. Hornets (3-0)
Thunder 15.0 (9, 19, 17) vs. Pelicans (0-2)
Kings 12.7 (3, 17, 18) vs. Cavaliers (2-1)
Timberwolves 11.3 (7, 11, 16) vs. Suns (1-2)
Hawks 9.3 (7, 18, 3) vs. Grizzlies (1-1)
Clippers 9.0 (3, 15, 9) vs. Nuggets (0-3)
Hornets 8.7 (6, 2, 18) vs. Spurs (3-0)

Thank you very much for this Klomp. One thing nobody has pointed out yet is that since the Spurs and Hornets play each other one of them will be eliminated. If the Hornets win the Wolves would move up to 4 with a win unless they lose their points differential placement. If the Spurs win we need another 3-0 team to lose. I like our chances to win and increase our point differential against the Suns. Based on SL record the Kings vs Cavaliers game should be close.

So the point differential won't be as difficult to overcome as I first thought. The gap between Minnesota and Sacramento is just 4 points.

And the Kings game will be wrapping up as ours starts today, so we'll have an idea of what kind of point differential we're looking at (if one at all).

[Klomp]

Why? I was writing out JEdwards, and I decided to shorten it to Jed. We have a superstar Edwards, and even though everyone calls him Ant, I don’t want visitors who don’t know Jesse Edwards to get confused. Honestly what is wrong with Jed, or would it be better as JED?

Or, you know, you could call him Jesse?

5 letters vs 3. Plus that is his first name, not a nickname. Feels like a cop out if I am being honest. It will stay Jed until you come up with something better.

Well he could just borrow Rik Smits' nickname The Dunking Dutchman.....

[KGdaBom]

So you prefer JED to Jed? I don’t like JEd but I guess that is on the table.

This is being drastically overanalyzed. JEd would be my preference I suppose. I kind of want Jedi just because Jedi Knights are cool.

But Jedwa is not

Have you ever met a Jedwa. They are not nice.

[KGdaBom]

Why? I was writing out JEdwards, and I decided to shorten it to Jed. We have a superstar Edwards, and even though everyone calls him Ant, I don’t want visitors who don’t know Jesse Edwards to get confused. Honestly what is wrong with Jed, or would it be better as JED?

Or, you know, you could call him Jesse?

5 letters vs 3. Plus that is his first name, not a nickname. Feels like a cop out if I am being honest. It will stay Jed until you come up with something better.

Or we could call him Clampett as in Jed Clampett.