Norseman79 wrote:minimus wrote:Norseman79 wrote:
And how was Randle at handling pressure while ball handling? Setting up the offense to ensure a good look? Creating looks for other guys? Randle played well, no denying that, but where was this in New York and every other place he played? If Randle can change why not others?
I have no problem ditching Randle, I have no faith in him. Rob looks like a bust. If you didn't know who he was and watched summer league, you would likely think that little guy is pretty quick, he could make the g league team. DDV, again, hopefully he has a better year backing up Edwards, but, as it looks, TSJ should lockdown backup SG/SF spot, though his handle is sketchy.
Fact is simple, our point guards suck. Who people want, who is attainable, who makes sense...all opinion. What's not is if they need to address it. Lots of time though.
Well. First off all, I am not a big fan of Randle. He is not an ideal player and not an fit here. But he offers some continuity, and positional versatility. I see that you have no problem ditching him, but almost every proposed here trade (including MANY my trade ideas) dont make MIN a better team. Second, I would call Rob a bust after one development year. Finally, I'd NOT do any trade in panic mode, I keep believing in this team. If you trade in panic mode, you lose. From what I see our FO and coaching staff have faith in this guys.
Who is panicking? The current roster is good enough to make the playoffs. If you make the playoffs anything can happen. I just like to maximize a roster and players, I don't think we are doing either by not having better PG play.
Trading for someone like Sexton or Murray is, to me, an example of panicking. But the root cause of the debate is really about how people evaluate both our situation and those players.
Here’s my view:
First, neither of them is a true point guard. They’re the same archetype as Jordan Poole or Anfernee Simons: undersized shooting guards with little to no defense.
- Sexton is simply a bad defender.
- Murray used to have an elite defender reputation — but that was a long time ago.
- Just look at Dyson Daniels in ATL: he’s the one who looks like an elite defender there now, while Murray hasn’t impressed.
Second, both are worse players than Randle. Significantly worse.
- Utah literally paid to move Sexton’s contract.
- Murray tore his Achilles, and he doesn’t have the shooting to come back like KD did after his injury.
- Years ago, before that injury, Murray earning $18 million was fine. At $30 million, he’s arguably a negative asset. Also Murray had long injury list even before Achilles torn
So there’s really no good reason to trade for them. I’d much rather invest that time and those minutes into Rob’s development and Randle’s role:
Rob is:
- Very young
- Relatively cheap
- Has the potential to be a better passer and scorer than either Sexton or Murray
Randle is:
- Physical, strong, with legit post-up scoring
- Can create his own shot and make kick-out passes
- Healthy
- On an adequate contract
- Fully bought in to MIN’s defensive and offensive identity
- A true professional with coaches and teammates
Rob and Randle represent the front office’s commitment to continuity — building a competitive, healthy, winning environment to develop players.
DDV is also a winning player on a bargain contract. Even if the fit isn’t perfect, the main idea in MIN is to build something special through adversity.
That’s why I’d rather give a raw, lightning-quick guard (Rob), an unconventional point-forward (Randle as a secondary option), and a gritty combo guard a real chance — instead of tearing down what’s being built to bring in another scorer in a PG’s body.
Sexton and Murray both represent failed development projects from tanking, losing, rebuilding teams. Sure, you can hope they’d look better in MIN — but the price you pay for that gamble is someone like Randle or Dillingham.
And let’s ask honestly:
- How would Dillingham look if he were in UTA right now with a green light to shoot every time?
- And how would 6’1” Sexton get hunted on defense in the playoffs if he were here in MIN?
