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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#501 » by WarriorGM » Mon Jul 14, 2025 11:36 pm

Curry and Butler together were excellent last year. Butler didn't look great without Curry in the playoffs but he seemed injured. I think LeBron is a bigger risk. Having all three of them while sending off the younger guys is just asking for a breakdown.
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Post#502 » by vvoland » Mon Jul 14, 2025 11:46 pm

DaHef wrote:
CS707 wrote:I'd be lying if I said I've watched enough LeBron the last year or so to have an informed opinion.

What I will say is that Butler earning $50m and putting up 14 points in a playoff game doesn't leave me feeling all warm and fuzzy.

Maybe he the back thing was lingering but he's the first guy I'm putting on the table if the choice was mine.

Can JK be combined with other players in a sign and trade? If so, then Green, Moody, JK. No picks involved. Your big 3 would be Butler, James, Curry.


If we sign JK for a contract starting at 25 (and decreasing, let's say), we can get to 52.6M without touching Jimmy, Steph, or Dray. We'd have no depth, but I think we could get there:

25 - JK
21 - Moody + Buddy
6 - TJD, Gui, 15th roster spot's guaranteed contract like Rowe

that's 3 rotation players for lebron. Dray + JK or just Jimmy probably makes more sense but the option is there for:

Steph
Jimmy
Lebron
Dray
Horford

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3rd vet min (combo forward like Amir Coffey would be my current favorite)
4th vet min (backup pg like Morris)

Bronny/2 way player better than bronny (I don't think that's rowe or taran)
Richard/2 way player better than richard (e.g. david jones-garcia)

Buyout guy
Buyout guy

That's 14. This can't be done until the deadline so we'd have to sign horford for the TPMLE, Melton for the vet min, and two more vet mins in order to have something that resembles a roster, post trade. Not saying that's the way I would go, but just lining up the option.
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#503 » by statsman » Tue Jul 15, 2025 12:50 am

LMAO at all of these trade deadline/post Dec 15th trade ideas.
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Post#504 » by EvanZ » Tue Jul 15, 2025 4:45 pm

Hmm. He knows he's a Warrior? hmmmmm

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Post#505 » by whatisacenter » Wed Jul 16, 2025 3:24 am

Heard Marc Stein on the radio today and he believes, as has been reported, that Horford and Melton are likely to eventually sign with the Warriors.

He also believes that the two most likely JK scenarios are that he re-signs with GS or he plays on the QO and bets on himself as a FA next summer. He stated that he wishes more players chose the latter path and that they would take back control of their careers. If I was JK that is what I would choose to do.
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Post#506 » by watch1958 » Wed Jul 16, 2025 1:40 pm

EvanZ wrote:Hmm. He knows he's a Warrior? hmmmmm

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Post#507 » by donkeylips » Wed Jul 16, 2025 1:46 pm

Josh okogie anyone? He was just released
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Post#508 » by Dubs 707 » Wed Jul 16, 2025 3:51 pm

donkeylips wrote:Josh okogie anyone? He was just released


FG not 3 point but his FG is slightly above 40%.
From 3 he's shotting 29%

Unless he's known as a defender I'd pass, as he appears to be a black hole offensively.
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Post#509 » by EvanZ » Wed Jul 16, 2025 4:03 pm

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donkeylips wrote:Josh okogie anyone? He was just released


FG not 3 point but his FG is slightly above 40%.
From 3 he's shotting 29%

Unless he's known as a defender I'd pass, as he appears to be a black hole offensively.


Literally "known as a defender". I've wanted Okogie for years. Would immediately get minutes for Kerr imo.

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Post#510 » by EvanZ » Wed Jul 16, 2025 4:05 pm

whatisacenter wrote:Heard Marc Stein on the radio today and he believes, as has been reported, that Horford and Melton are likely to eventually sign with the Warriors.

He also believes that the two most likely JK scenarios are that he re-signs with GS or he plays on the QO and bets on himself as a FA next summer. He stated that he wishes more players chose the latter path and that they would take back control of their careers. If I was JK that is what I would choose to do.


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Post#511 » by jg77 » Wed Jul 16, 2025 4:18 pm

EvanZ wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:Heard Marc Stein on the radio today and he believes, as has been reported, that Horford and Melton are likely to eventually sign with the Warriors.

He also believes that the two most likely JK scenarios are that he re-signs with GS or he plays on the QO and bets on himself as a FA next summer. He stated that he wishes more players chose the latter path and that they would take back control of their careers. If I was JK that is what I would choose to do.


Worked for Nerlens Noel. Oh wait. It did not.


I don't think signing the QO is the best idea since he could get a bunch of DNPs next season and hurt his chances of getting a nice contract even more.
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Post#512 » by whatisacenter » Wed Jul 16, 2025 4:43 pm

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EvanZ wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:Heard Marc Stein on the radio today and he believes, as has been reported, that Horford and Melton are likely to eventually sign with the Warriors.

He also believes that the two most likely JK scenarios are that he re-signs with GS or he plays on the QO and bets on himself as a FA next summer. He stated that he wishes more players chose the latter path and that they would take back control of their careers. If I was JK that is what I would choose to do.


Worked for Nerlens Noel. Oh wait. It did not.


I don't think signing the QO is the best idea since he could get a bunch of DNPs next season and hurt his chances of getting a nice contract even more.


Look how being under contract with the Warriors has done him.

He would at least control his own destiny in a season and sign whatever contract with whichever team he chooses.
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#513 » by Onus » Wed Jul 16, 2025 4:51 pm

whatisacenter wrote:
jg77 wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
Worked for Nerlens Noel. Oh wait. It did not.


I don't think signing the QO is the best idea since he could get a bunch of DNPs next season and hurt his chances of getting a nice contract even more.


Look how being under contract with the Warriors has done him.

He would at least control his own destiny in a season and sign whatever contract with whichever team he chooses.

So you want him to play for 8M and then next year take another prove it deal for the mle at 14 that 22M for 2 years. Rather than take a 2+1 for something like 3/60? So you just want him to light on fire 22M over 2 years. Yikes that's why he's in this mess.

And why would he want to take less money because some fans are impatient?
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Post#514 » by statsman » Wed Jul 16, 2025 4:56 pm

whatisacenter wrote:
jg77 wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
Worked for Nerlens Noel. Oh wait. It did not.


I don't think signing the QO is the best idea since he could get a bunch of DNPs next season and hurt his chances of getting a nice contract even more.

Look how being under contract with the Warriors has done him.

There is that. Had Kuminga met the starter criteria in the CBA, something that is usually anticipated from top-14 picks who make it to rookie contract restricted free agency, his QO would have been $10,240,287. Instead, it's $7,976,830, barely more than what he made this past season ($7,636,307). That larger QO might have been more palatable to Kuminga.

Kuminga and his agent know the QO from the Warriors is now locked into place until October 1. So, they can hold out all offseason in the hope that either some team comes through with a S&T offer, or the Warriors tire of the process and either (a) S&T him for peanuts, or (b) sign him to something like 3/60 or better.

I'm really not sure who is going to blink first, but I'm betting it's the Warriors. If the Warriors decide to hold their ground, then the October 1 deadline becomes an issue for Kuminga, at which point the QO expires. It can be extended out to March 1, but both the player and team have to agree.
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Post#515 » by vvoland » Wed Jul 16, 2025 5:10 pm

Onus wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:
jg77 wrote:
I don't think signing the QO is the best idea since he could get a bunch of DNPs next season and hurt his chances of getting a nice contract even more.


Look how being under contract with the Warriors has done him.

He would at least control his own destiny in a season and sign whatever contract with whichever team he chooses.

So you want him to play for 8M and then next year take another prove it deal for the mle at 14 that 22M for 2 years. Rather than take a 2+1 for something like 3/60? So you just want him to light on fire 22M over 2 years. Yikes that's why he's in this mess.

And why would he want to take less money because some fans are impatient?


That the board thinks he should sign the QO isn't surprising. The fact that Marc Stein would advocate more people doing it is mindboggling. Without even looking into it, Noel and Schroeder combined to lose over 100M by turning down offers (not sure Schroeder was restricted, to be fair). I'm sure there are others. I can't think of a situation where it actually worked out.

If JK signs a 3/60 that is, effectively, a 2/40, he'd need the first year of his UFA contract to be $32M in order to make up the difference in taking the QO. Anyone think JK can get a contract next summer starting at 32M? Does he even get 32 minutes per game, much less million per season? I'm like his biggest fan/cheerleader on this board and there is no way in hell I would advise him to take the QO, even if the best offer he got was 2/30. That still requires him to get a contract starting at 22M next summer. It might happen but the downside far outweighs the upside there.
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Post#516 » by vvoland » Wed Jul 16, 2025 5:13 pm

whatisacenter wrote:
jg77 wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
Worked for Nerlens Noel. Oh wait. It did not.


I don't think signing the QO is the best idea since he could get a bunch of DNPs next season and hurt his chances of getting a nice contract even more.


Look how being under contract with the Warriors has done him.

He would at least control his own destiny in a season and sign whatever contract with whichever team he chooses.


He'd have say about where he could get traded but, otherwise? His minutes would be in even greater jeopardy as the FO/Ownership pressure to play JK would disappear (if it was ever really there).

With a full season of Jimmy, JK could succeed, but he could also find himself out of the rotation. Not DNP-CD level out, but 15 min a game seems like a fairly realistic scenario. Especially if he's all butthurt that he's on the QO.
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#517 » by DaHef » Wed Jul 16, 2025 5:21 pm

Onus wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:
jg77 wrote:
I don't think signing the QO is the best idea since he could get a bunch of DNPs next season and hurt his chances of getting a nice contract even more.


Look how being under contract with the Warriors has done him.

He would at least control his own destiny in a season and sign whatever contract with whichever team he chooses.

So you want him to play for 8M and then next year take another prove it deal for the mle at 14 that 22M for 2 years. Rather than take a 2+1 for something like 3/60? So you just want him to light on fire 22M over 2 years. Yikes that's why he's in this mess.

And why would he want to take less money because some fans are impatient?

I wouldn't offer him a 3rd year option if I'm the Dubs. Just a 3 year offer with no options. An option would basically make the 2nd year a contract year with all the posturing starting over again and not as palatable for a trade.
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#518 » by whatisacenter » Wed Jul 16, 2025 5:25 pm

Onus wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:
jg77 wrote:
I don't think signing the QO is the best idea since he could get a bunch of DNPs next season and hurt his chances of getting a nice contract even more.


Look how being under contract with the Warriors has done him.

He would at least control his own destiny in a season and sign whatever contract with whichever team he chooses.

So you want him to play for 8M and then next year take another prove it deal for the mle at 14 that 22M for 2 years. Rather than take a 2+1 for something like 3/60? So you just want him to light on fire 22M over 2 years. Yikes that's why he's in this mess.

And why would he want to take less money because some fans are impatient?


I doubt he would have to take another prove it deal next offseason. Being a RFA in the NBA sucks.

And I am not being impatient, but if I was JK, I would have reservations about signing a contract extension with GS. I don't care if this carries on until September.
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#519 » by Onus » Wed Jul 16, 2025 5:33 pm

whatisacenter wrote:
Onus wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:
Look how being under contract with the Warriors has done him.

He would at least control his own destiny in a season and sign whatever contract with whichever team he chooses.

So you want him to play for 8M and then next year take another prove it deal for the mle at 14 that 22M for 2 years. Rather than take a 2+1 for something like 3/60? So you just want him to light on fire 22M over 2 years. Yikes that's why he's in this mess.

And why would he want to take less money because some fans are impatient?


I doubt he would have to take another prove it deal next offseason. Being a RFA in the NBA sucks.

And I am not being impatient, but if I was JK, I would have reservations about signing a contract extension with GS. I don't care if this carries on until September.

The most a reported s&t deal was worth based on the actual offer was about 23M. After a year of not playing and not being prioritized he would absolutely need to take a prove it deal. Even if he gets the same offer 8+23 =31 so he’s lighting 9M on fire if that offer is still available next year.
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#520 » by EvanZ » Wed Jul 16, 2025 5:34 pm

Man, we could have used Beal lol.
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