Fake Trade Thread #7

Post #821 » by **luciano-davidwesley** » Mon Jul 7, 2025 11:26 pm

JDR720 wrote:NSJ, Jeffries, and Dallas or Miami 1st for Kessler?

Yes but I don't think that is enough to get Utah to agree.

Goodecharlotte · Post #822 » by **Goodecharlotte** » Mon Jul 7, 2025 11:29 pm

Green, Plumlee and NSJ for Vuc, yes he's 34 but he'd be really good in Lee's system

Post #823 » by **Diop** » Tue Jul 8, 2025 2:00 am

they clearly never wanted/considered Collins.

How about Jalen Smith? He's still only 25, has a 3 point shot and has filled in at Pf before. Bulls probably want to keep him

Isaac for Orlando would be solid as an extra big, not sure they want him and he is a tall defender.

Post #824 » by **JDR720** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 6:45 am

Proposed this on the trade board. Evidently Kuminga isn't worth much of anything.

The first literation of this idea was the Dallas 1st instead of the Miami 1st, and the Mark Williams 1st instead of the 2nds. So I updated it to the above.

Basically, the Miami 1st + 2 2nd's for Kuminga.

JustBuzzin · Post #825 » by **JustBuzzin** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:52 pm

JDR720 wrote:

Proposed this on the trade board. Evidently Kuminga isn't worth much of anything.

The first literation of this idea was the Dallas 1st instead of the Miami 1st, and the Mark Williams 1st instead of the 2nds. So I updated it to the above.

Basically, the Miami 1st + 2 2nd's for Kuminga.

I'm down let's do it.

Bassman · Post #826 » by **Bassman** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 6:58 pm

Glad to read the Hornets (apparently) are NOT pursuing Kuminga despite rumors. He’s a nice player but undersized at the 4, isn’t a step up from Miles, and we desperately need a quality center.

Is it too late (or soon) to trade Kon for Maluach? :lol:

Just kidding…..sort of… :cry:

MasterIchiro · Post #827 » by **MasterIchiro** » Wed Jul 16, 2025 11:08 am

"This is one of the weakest high school classes I've seen in a long time," one longtime talent evaluator told ESPN. "There might not be a single All-Star in this group, and after the first few prospects, I'm not sure how many NBA starters I see either from the other five-star recruits. New players always emerge, but by now we usually have a pretty good idea of who the most elite prospects are, and it's looking like slim pickings, even more so than the weak 2024 NBA draft, which at least had several high-end international prospects we could point to."

The current projections for the 2027 draft class could impact the trade market for first round picks. It could also impact the incentive structure amongst teams who could look to tank their way to a high draft pick in 2027.

Giovony (ESPN)

Well thank God Jeff is sitting on the 2027 Mavs + 2027 Miami picks instead of trading them for a center upgrade!

MasterIchiro · Post #828 » by **MasterIchiro** » Wed Jul 16, 2025 5:24 pm

"It is our preference that that team remains in Portland. We've had great success in Portland over the years," said Silver at the NBA's board of governors meeting in Las Vegas.

The estate of Paul G. Allen put the team up for sale in May.

Silver added that the Blazers "likely needs a new arena, so that will be part of the challenge for any new ownership group coming in."

Ah. Wonder if the new ownership group plans to lean up the payroll. They did just axe Ayton, paying 20 million to make him disappear.

Wonder if they'd do a cash savings deal for Robert Williams III. The problem is matching salary would need to come from one of the secured roster spots like Josh Green, so they wouldn't do that because Green is owed 2 years.

We should waive and stretch that MF.

But would they pay to make Jerami Grant go away? He's their largest remaining contract.

MasterIchiro · Post #829 » by **MasterIchiro** » Wed Jul 16, 2025 5:52 pm

Hornets trade Magic 1st (projected 24) 2026 attached to Josh Green (negative value close to Nurkic acquired originally with this pick) for Vucevic, giving Lee 5-out plus an expiring that can be flipped at the deadline if the Hornets are out, dumping 14 million owed Green next season as worst case scenario plus deadline draft capital.

Bulls trade Vucevic + 2026 Blazers lottery protected 1st (not projected to convey) for Robert Williams III + Magic 2026 1st, giving them rim protection plus a 1st guaranteed to convey.

Blazers trade Robert Williams III for Josh Green to recover their 2026 first owned by Chicago, plus NSJ for shooting off the bench now that Simons is gone and the Portland defense solidified with Jrue/Camara/Avdija/Grant/Clingan/Yang/Thybulle.

MasterIchiro · Post #830 » by **MasterIchiro** » Sat Jul 19, 2025 3:30 am

How about Green + NSJ for Zach Collins as stretch big on an 18 million expiring deal? Hornets include Blazers 2027 second round pick (the so-called weak draft).

Bassman · Post #831 » by **Bassman** » Sun Jul 20, 2025 9:44 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:How about Green + NSJ for Zach Collins as stretch big on an 18 million expiring deal? Hornets include Blazers 2027 second round pick (the so-called weak draft).

I wouldn’t mind it, if they weren’t willing to do any better trade. I actually think we’d get as much from PJ Hall on a 2-way. Kalkbrenner is NOT ready to be a real contributor at NBA level….needs a full dose of Greensboro to get stronger, quicker, in hopes of eventually being a third option off the bench.

Hornets SI suggests a trade for an older but quality vet in Nicola Vucevic, sending Green, Williams and NSJ plus the 2027 Dallas 1st pick. Thats a lot to give up but we need to reduce the pile of players, the 2027 Dallas pick will be crap in a crap draft, and Vucevic can still play (and on an expiring contract). This team has to do something.

Post #832 » by **luciano-davidwesley** » Sun Jul 20, 2025 11:11 pm

Bassman wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:How about Green + NSJ for Zach Collins as stretch big on an 18 million expiring deal? Hornets include Blazers 2027 second round pick (the so-called weak draft).

I wouldn’t mind it, if they weren’t willing to do any better trade. I actually think we’d get as much from PJ Hall on a 2-way. Kalkbrenner is NOT ready to be a real contributor at NBA level….needs a full dose of Greensboro to get stronger, quicker, in hopes of eventually being a third option off the bench.

Hornets SI suggests a trade for an older but quality vet in Nicola Vucevic, sending Green, Williams and NSJ plus the 2027 Dallas 1st pick. Thats a lot to give up but we need to reduce the pile of players, the 2027 Dallas pick will be crap in a crap draft, and Vucevic can still play (and on an expiring contract). This team has to do something.

I wouldn't be giving up the Mavs pick for that package. Maybe the "worst of" 2029 pick as we get off Green and to a lesser extent Grant Williams coming off an ACL.

Vuc himself is barely worth a decent second IMO given his age and defensive limitations, and he's not even a great fit for us.

dmutombo321 · Post #833 » by **dmutombo321** » Mon Jul 21, 2025 1:44 pm

I think Zach Collins is a great suggestion and honestly is the type of move they should have explored in lieu of wasting $3m on Plum. Zach Collins is a quality servicable big. And while NSJ and green are both arguably contributor level players, we have a glut of wings now so I wouldn't mind parting with them along with the 2nd of it could land Collins

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Chapelchilla · Post #834 » by **Chapelchilla** » Mon Jul 21, 2025 2:13 pm

[quote="MasterIchiro"]How about Green + NSJ for Zach Collins as stretch big on an 18 million expiring deal? Hornets include Blazers 2027 second round pick (the so-called weak draft).[/quot

I like it. If healthy for once Collins can shore up the D.

MasterIchiro · Post #835 » by **MasterIchiro** » Mon Jul 21, 2025 2:39 pm

Chapelchilla wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:How about Green + NSJ for Zach Collins as stretch big on an 18 million expiring deal? Hornets include Blazers 2027 second round pick (the so-called weak draft).[/quot

I like it. If healthy for once Collins can shore up the D.

Only reason I can think it hasn't happened is teams want the Hornets to attach a 1st to the Green contract, same situation the Suns faced with Nurkic.

The Green contract, its negative value, might be the main reason Peterson won't use it as matching salary for even an afterthought center like Collins. At 18 million, Collins himself is negative value. I worry Peterson is too much of a coward to actualize his losses, so early on the job. He definitely got punked by Nico of all GM's.

Bassman · Post #836 » by **Bassman** » Thu Jul 24, 2025 10:15 pm

As unlikely as it may be, Hornets SI details a trade idea that would be based around Bron and Bronny being traded to Cleveland. Multi teams required; Hornets give up Williams and 2 first round picks from 2027, we get Jarrett Allen. I’d do this all day.

https://www.si.com/nba/hornets/news/lebron-james-mock-trades-have-hornets-landing-key-piece-by-helping-facilitate-deal

HornetJail · Post #837 » by **HornetJail** » Thu Jul 24, 2025 10:26 pm

i think it's very well established the Cavs are not blowing up their core for LeBron

Bassman · Post #838 » by **Bassman** » Fri Jul 25, 2025 4:29 pm

HornetJail wrote:i think it's very well established the Cavs are not blowing up their core for LeBron

Agree, it was one of their “what if” trades…fake and knowingly unlikely.

MasterIchiro · Post #839 » by **MasterIchiro** » Fri Jul 25, 2025 5:11 pm

Hornets
Kuminga (27.3 mil)- PF
I. Stewart - C

Pistons
Claxton
Bridges

Warriors
Green (1/2 of 27.3 mil)
2029 Mark 1st via CLT

Nets
T. Harris
2026 Pistons 1st unprotected
2026 Nurk 1st via CLT

Kuminga takes the Miles budget line
Stewart takes the Green budget line

JustBuzzin · Post #840 » by **JustBuzzin** » Fri Jul 25, 2025 5:17 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:Hornets
Kuminga (27.3 mil)- PF
I. Stewart - C

Pistons
Claxton
Bridges

Warriors
Green (1/2 of 27.3 mil)
2029 Mark 1st via CLT

Nets
T. Harris
2026 Pistons 1st unprotected
2026 Nurk 1st via CLT

Kuminga takes the Miles budget line
Stewart takes the Green budget line

Sign me up

I love me some Beef Stew!