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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Livingston Back on a 1 Year Deal - Page 76 

Post#1541 » by Ryan5UW » Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:00 pm

Shams must have been twitching when that tweet got sent out and it didn't mention anything about Giannis leaving Milwaukee.
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Post#1542 » by Wonka » Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:04 pm

Jesus Christ. Why?
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Livingston Back on a 1 Year Deal - Page 76 

Post#1543 » by rayallenscalves » Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:10 pm

The skill level, while improving, has yet to really arrive for Livingston. But he's got an athletic profile (roughly 6'8 with a 7'1 wingspan and 37" vert) that's unique to the Bucks and that, on paper, could be extremely useful. Because of that, I'd say it's worth giving him another year to see if the ball skills continue improving.

I do wonder, would the Bucks have saved money this year if they had just never cut him? It seems they would have. Or was cutting him necessary to complete the Turner signing?
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Post#1544 » by blazza18 » Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:10 pm

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blazza18 wrote:I wonder if Jon Horst even believes the words coming out of his mouth? What a bull ****.

GM painting a rosy picture of the offseason and upcoming season. Would you expect something else from him (or any other GM in any other sport)?


Even the good general managers put their own spin on things but I never believe Horst comes off as genuine when these pieces come out. We don’t need to know how good you think you are right now.
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Post#1545 » by MVP2110 » Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:11 pm

I mean of course GMs are going to be positive, they made the moves because they think they are good moves to make.
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Post#1546 » by engelmartin » Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:14 pm

Did Livingston get a player option?
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Post#1548 » by ajb905 » Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:29 pm

I wonder what Amir Coffey is going to get...feels like a great vet min signing (cut AJax)
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Post#1549 » by soxperry » Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:36 pm

1. Ajax can be waived prior to opening night but we pay him 800k

2. Hes likely going to be traded with Kuzma before then
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Post#1550 » by Bernman » Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:36 pm

ajb905 wrote:I wonder what Amir Coffey is going to get...feels like a great vet min signing (cut AJax)


Terrible rebounder. Worse than Prince even. Would be a bad fit w/ Turner here now.

Plus, if you cut Ajax, you get al little more dead cap (guess it's more like 1 million instead of whole thing). I'd probably prefer another team's trash is our treasure type of move, to that. Like that Marjon/KPJ & Wright/Sims moves were for us. Horst should be scouring the bottom of rosters.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Livingston Back on a 1 Year Deal - Page 76 

Post#1551 » by Frank Nova » Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:40 pm

Still not even 22yrs old yet and showing signs of improvement to his overall game. I like it, keeping him around to continue developing is a good thing.

Need a roster spot for Thanasty and guaranteeing this money to Livingston likely means Andre Jackson Jr is a goner. We’re set up perfectly for a 2 for 1 trade now to finish the offseason.

Kuzma, Jackson Jr, 2031 1st and 2032 swap gets us….?!
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Post#1552 » by Bernman » Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:43 pm

Frank Nova wrote:Kuzma, Jackson Jr, 2031 1st and 2032 swap gets us….?!


Nothing. Horst all but confirmed we're waiting for better timing, at the deadline, when he said he'll Make the Bucks Great Again. You mean then? Hopefully Murphy or Garland.
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Post#1553 » by soxperry » Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:53 pm

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Frank Nova wrote:Kuzma, Jackson Jr, 2031 1st and 2032 swap gets us….?!


Nothing. Horst all but confirmed we're waiting for better timing, at the deadline, when he said he'll Make the Bucks Great Again. You mean then? Hopefully Murphy or Garland.


None of us really know anything and what Horst says matters little, but i am coupling the recent inside info with AJax's guarantee date and the tea leaves point to a move prior to the season. Having already been through the Dane situation where we didnt have much time with him before the season started, ik guessing they want to do it asap.
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Post#1554 » by M-C-G » Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:55 pm

Bernman wrote:
Frank Nova wrote:Kuzma, Jackson Jr, 2031 1st and 2032 swap gets us….?!


Nothing. Horst all but confirmed we're waiting for better timing, at the deadline, when he said he'll Make the Bucks Great Again. You mean then? Hopefully Murphy or Garland.


So we should take everything the GM says literally? Not sure I am there. If he doesn’t like the value on the table, I’d want him saying we are good as is. But who knows
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Post#1555 » by Bernman » Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:57 pm

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Frank Nova wrote:Kuzma, Jackson Jr, 2031 1st and 2032 swap gets us….?!


Nothing. Horst all but confirmed we're waiting for better timing, at the deadline, when he said he'll Make the Bucks Great Again. You mean then? Hopefully Murphy or Garland.


So we should take everything the GM says literally? Not sure I am there. If he doesn’t like the value on the table, I’d want him saying we are good as is. But who knows


I think it's safe to say he's not actively looking for a big move anymore, if he was adamant about it, and hyping up the trade deadline. Otherwise he'd be coy and unspecific. Say something like "we're always looking to make the team better".
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Post#1556 » by tedbrogen » Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:58 pm

Livingston had to initially be cut to clear space for Turner.

AJJ’s dead cap of 800k won’t matter this season and it’s not a waive and stretch so it doesn’t extend beyond this season.

I assume he’s being kept in case they can trade his salary if not they likely cut him before the season and use the roster spot elsewhere.
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Post#1557 » by MVP2110 » Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:02 pm

Yea I think this is our roster with just a Thanasis signing remaining

KPJ/Anthony/Sears*
GTJ/Rollins/Harris/Bouyea*
Green/Prince/Livingston/Thanasis
Giannis/Kuzma/Smith/Nance*
Turner/Bobby/Sims
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Livingston Back on a 1 Year Deal - Page 76 

Post#1558 » by El Pooch Grande » Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:02 pm

After that Nehm article, someone please tell me Horst is still working on a Kuzma trade? Where are our insiders!? Buckpack signal time...
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Post#1559 » by tedbrogen » Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:05 pm

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This is all amazing. Beas......JEEZ.

That's a really long video.

Cliff notes?


Three scenarios:
1) Beas agreed to be on the take for his under on boards but then decided against it
2) Beas told the guys involved in the Porter situation he would absolutely hit his over, they tell their followers to hammer the under and the followers do because it worked with Porter, line moves dramatically and Moose, his cousin, and a deli owner bet the over.
3) The guys who involved with Porter wanted to provide cover so they hammered the under on a sure loss.

My guess is 2.

But if these three guys linked MooseNBA, his cousin, and the deli owner together, obviously the feds have as well, so Beas and those involved are super F’d.

Also, Rozier has not been cleared as of yet.
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