Does this team have a concerning depth problem? Darko concerns?

[OakleyDokely]

Not that I'm really up for trading RJ (I honestly don't know).

But Ochai is far from a scrub. Last year he was pretty valuable piece and put up some good numbers. Of his 3 years, he had 1 bad year.

well he is getting traded, we arent paying him so unless you prefer he walks then..

Ochai? We may end up paying him...who knows. He'll be an RFA and I doubt he gets a crazy offer.

The middle class have been completely destroyed. Even if Ochai has an impressive season, I can't see him getting big offers. You have your 20+ mill starter plus players and your minimum players and there aren't many guys getting contracts between that in free agency. A team would have to see starter potential in him to give him a really aggressive offer.

[Basketball_Jones]

To be honest, it’s not like I’m in love with any of our players anyways I’d trade any of them for the right price. So if a guy like Gradey gets squeezed out of minutes, oh well. There’s a reason why they went and got Ingram, nobody is really star talent aside maybe Scottie someday.

[TheRaptor!]

Is Ochai that much better than Walter Dick and AJ to gaurantee a spot on the rotation?

I dont really see it

[Psubs]

Is Ochai that much better than Walter Dick and AJ to gaurantee a spot on the rotation?

I dont really see it

Ochai is not better than Walter.

[Psubs]

I wonder if they keep the roster full so they suppress they bench's 2nd contracts. Well the competition looks really fierce built on championship level defense.

[djsunyc]

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[Westside Gunn]

Is Ochai that much better than Walter Dick and AJ to gaurantee a spot on the rotation?

I dont really see it

Long term Walter and Dick have a lot more potential. Dick specially. And the player ops most likely see themselves investing more time in their development vs Ochai and Lawson. Ochai and Lawson seem to be more expendable.

This is Lawson's make or break opportunity - if he doesn't make it in Toronto I really hope he gets a chance somewhere else where he gets to play. There's a logjam here.

Ochai was a throw in and if he shows any growth its good from an asset management perspective to use in a trade, unless he really blows his competition away.

From a priority perspective its Dick>Walter>Ochai>Lawson.

People keep parroting the 3+D Ochai **** but I've never seen it work out with this team besides Danny Green who is arguably the goat role player. Before that we had PJ Tucker and DeMarre Carrol who were horrible to watch.

[CPT]

It’s going to be interesting to see if our depth is real. I think we tend to overrate our guys just because we know them.

Other teams also have players, and we don’t typically know a ton about guys 8-12 on most teams.

Are our guys actually better, or do we just know who they are?

[djsunyc]

It’s going to be interesting to see if our depth is real. I think we tend to overrate our guys just because we know them.

Other teams also have players, and we don’t typically know a ton about guys 8-12 on most teams.

Are our guys actually better, or do we just know who they are?

this forum tears apart it's own players.

[TGM]

I am a bit concerned with Dario. He is not a great coach. The fact that he doesn’t call coaches challenges when he shouldn’t and not challenge when he shouldn’t. He was like top five worst at winning coaches challenge. When he calls a time out to rally the troops we rarely get the stop we want.

Also his line ups and substitutions are very questionable. A good versus a bad coach is easily a 5-6 win delta.

[HangTime]

I am a bit concerned with Dario. He is not a great coach. The fact that he doesn’t call coaches challenges when he shouldn’t and not challenge when he shouldn’t. He was like top five worst at winning coaches challenge. When he calls a time out to rally the troops we rarely get the stop we want.

Also his line ups and substitutions are very questionable. A good versus a bad coach is easily a 5-6 win delta.

I think he used alot of his coaches Challeneges as a "players challenge." You know, show them that you have confidence in them, and it's something they can learn from, especially if their wrong.

Also, if player is consistently correct, you can challenge without hesitation. I think Ulrich might be the most "trust worthy" with challenges.

The lineup substitution were to create situations (that how I saw it). Like Jakob said last media day, it was player development, not necessarily wins.

If we actually tried last year, we probably would have have been a .500 team.

[TGM]

I am a bit concerned with Dario. He is not a great coach. The fact that he doesn’t call coaches challenges when he shouldn’t and not challenge when he shouldn’t. He was like top five worst at winning coaches challenge. When he calls a time out to rally the troops we rarely get the stop we want.

Also his line ups and substitutions are very questionable. A good versus a bad coach is easily a 5-6 win delta.

I think he used alot of his coaches Challeneges as a "players challenge." You know, show them that you have confidence in them, and it's something they can learn from, especially if their wrong.

Also, if player is consistently correct, you can challenge without hesitation. I think Ulrich might be the most "trust worthy" with challenges.

The lineup substitution were to create situations (that how I saw it). Like Jakob said last media day, it was player development, not necessarily wins.

If we actually tried last year, we probably would have have been a .500 team.

Problem is I’ve seen him many times not challenger when the player is pushing for it and he should have. So really not sure if he is trying to show support to the player or if he is just using it for stealth tank.

[causal_fan]

I think this is Darko's year to swim or sink - the team is playing to win.

[ATLTimekeeper]

I am a bit concerned with Dario. He is not a great coach. The fact that he doesn’t call coaches challenges when he shouldn’t and not challenge when he shouldn’t. He was like top five worst at winning coaches challenge. When he calls a time out to rally the troops we rarely get the stop we want.

Also his line ups and substitutions are very questionable. A good versus a bad coach is easily a 5-6 win delta.

I think he used alot of his coaches Challeneges as a "players challenge." You know, show them that you have confidence in them, and it's something they can learn from, especially if their wrong.

Also, if player is consistently correct, you can challenge without hesitation. I think Ulrich might be the most "trust worthy" with challenges.

The lineup substitution were to create situations (that how I saw it). Like Jakob said last media day, it was player development, not necessarily wins.

If we actually tried last year, we probably would have have been a .500 team.

Problem is I’ve seen him many times not challenger when the player is pushing for it and he should have. So really not sure if he is trying to show support to the player or if he is just using it for stealth tank.

I don't know if this is actually important, like Spo was one of the worst last year, too. As was Daignault. I think it's usually left up to an assistant to inform the head coach anyway. Quinn Snyder relies on former Raptors' assistant Brittini Donaldson.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

Darko should have been fired two years ago. It doesn't even make sense, what we're doing.

When we come out just like last year, or the year before. Except, now we have all these long term obligations. It leads into the next tear down.

[Tripod]

Darko should have been fired two years ago. It doesn't even make sense, what we're doing.

When we come out just like last year, or the year before. Except, now we have all these long term obligations. It leads into the next tear down.

This is delusional.

We are a rebuilding team and Darko was pegged as a great teacher in Memphis. Development doesn't happen overnight. And as a 1st time coach, he too has improved. We saw bad habits start to creep in in late Dec/early Jan and he squashed it and got the team re-focused and started to play excellent defense.

Obviously this year the focus changes to wins. And he will be judged on that and how the team grows. As a roster, we still have flaws and no superstar...but that has nothing to do with Darko. He has to try and work with what he has.

[bluerap23]

well he is getting traded, we arent paying him so unless you prefer he walks then..

Ochai? We may end up paying him...who knows. He'll be an RFA and I doubt he gets a crazy offer.

The middle class have been completely destroyed. Even if Ochai has an impressive season, I can't see him getting big offers. You have your 20+ mill starter plus players and your minimum players and there aren't many guys getting contracts between that in free agency. A team would have to see starter potential in him to give him a really aggressive offer.

It is interesting that you don't hear a lot of Ochai rumours because his salary is so easy to absorb and he plays a role a lot of team are looking for. I still believe he should be starting with RJ as 6th man. Teams with all offence in starting unit never work. Someone needs to guard point of attack and just hit open shots and cut.

[Los_29]

Darko should have been fired two years ago. It doesn't even make sense, what we're doing.

When we come out just like last year, or the year before. Except, now we have all these long term obligations. It leads into the next tear down.

Fired before he’s even hired. Love it. On a roll.

[YogurtProducer]

Is Ochai that much better than Walter Dick and AJ to gaurantee a spot on the rotation?

I dont really see it

Ochai is not better than Walter.

Walter has done nothing yet to suggest he is better than Ochai.

Long term you hope so, but Ochai was much better than him last year.

[Tripod]

Is Ochai that much better than Walter Dick and AJ to gaurantee a spot on the rotation?

I dont really see it

Ochai is not better than Walter.

Walter has done nothing yet to suggest he is better than Ochai.

Long term you hope so, but Ochai was much better than him last year.

Yeah you hope Walter's 3pt shooting stays how it ended last year to make him a solid 3+D guy.

Walter has to prove he can do it over the full season. Ochai has to prove last season is the norm and not a 1 off.