Around the NBA 2024-25 - In Our Offseason, Vol. 1

[Guano]

There goes my hero

Absolutely disgusted and disappointed that Beal gave up money and his no trade clause. I believed in him and he goes and does this. For what to have to work harder to earn another contract....... oh damn, just hit me, maybe he is gonna fake hustle his way into another big pay day. My king out here playing 4d chess.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

There goes my hero

Absolutely disgusted and disappointed that Beal gave up money and his no trade clause. I believed in him and he goes and does this. For what to have to work harder to earn another contract....... oh damn, just hit me, maybe he is gonna fake hustle his way into another big pay day. My king out here playing 4d chess.

PG13 is podcasting while playing like a roleplayer and saying he would never go to Charlotte. When a hero falls, another rises to take his place. PG13 got you.

[Guano]

There goes my hero

Absolutely disgusted and disappointed that Beal gave up money and his no trade clause. I believed in him and he goes and does this. For what to have to work harder to earn another contract....... oh damn, just hit me, maybe he is gonna fake hustle his way into another big pay day. My king out here playing 4d chess.

PG13 is podcasting while playing like a roleplayer and saying he would never go to Charlotte. When a hero falls, another rises to take his place. PG13 got you.

I know i should admire his work. But I just cant stand wayoff P. This might be surprising cause I fit the mold af a podcast guy but I cant stand em - the pomp of em bugs tf outta me. Also I just never liked the guy, from naming himself playoff p to being a Pacer. Fck em.

Though, I will say I respect the hell outta him stealing money from the 6ers. So Im not completely out on him. He has some redeeming qualities.

[MrDollarBills]

There goes my hero

Absolutely disgusted and disappointed that Beal gave up money and his no trade clause. I believed in him and he goes and does this. For what to have to work harder to earn another contract....... oh damn, just hit me, maybe he is gonna fake hustle his way into another big pay day. My king out here playing 4d chess.

PG13 is podcasting while playing like a roleplayer and saying he would never go to Charlotte. When a hero falls, another rises to take his place. PG13 got you.

I know i should admire his work. But I just cant stand wayoff P. This might be surprising cause I fit the mold af a podcast guy but I cant stand em - the pomp of em bugs tf outta me. Also I just never liked the guy, from naming himself playoff p to being a Pacer. Fck em.

Though, I will say I respect the hell outta him stealing money from the 6ers. So Im not completely out on him. He has some redeeming qualities.

Some teams deserve to pay for their stupidity

[3toheadmelo]

The clippers have really had a strong offseason. Signed Beal, Brook Lopez and traded for John Collins. They have mad depth now. And if they get cp3 that would be even crazier.

[Wildcat]

The clippers have really had a strong offseason. Signed Beal, Brook Lopez and traded for John Collins. They have mad depth now. And if they get cp3 that would be even crazier.

Sounds like an old arse team to me.

[3toheadmelo]

The clippers have really had a strong offseason. Signed Beal, Brook Lopez and traded for John Collins. They have mad depth now. And if they get cp3 that would be even crazier.

Sounds like an old arse team to me.

Beal is 32
Collins is 27
Zubac is 28

Lopez is old but is still a good player. Same for Kawhi who just averaged 25 on 53/40/77 splits in the post season. Harden is still an all star. It’s a nice team. The age stuff is over exaggerated.

[MrDollarBills]

Cant watch this right now but will fire it up when I have the time. Pablo is a talented journalist and this topic interest me a lot.

Corruption and tainting the sport was inevitable with mixing gambling and human nature. It won't stop but I would be stoked if they nuked it. They'll try to continue to punish the players with no accountability on their own part. Adam Silver and those that orchestrated this mess are the real criminals here. But the players that fell for it are going to be villianized.

What im trying to say is death to the bourgeoisie!

I agree with you 100%.

This is Adam Silver's mess. He saw dollar signs instead of ensuring that the integrity of the sport remains intact.

I think Porter, Rozier (who per Pablo had NOT been cleared of any wrong doing) and Beasley are morons. Beasley is a bad person in general but Silver rushed the league into this without considering the consequences. This falls at his feet. These dumbasses got caught up.

Also, the fact that players receive death threats from degenerate gamblers isn't lost on me either.

Once you get into bed with gambling organizations, you start sliding down a slippery slope.

See I have a hard time calling these players morons... im soft. Yeah, Beasley is a bad person cause of the other sht he has done. But damn, greed can corrupt a man. And I just feel that Silver, the person with power and the responsibility of protecting the game, allowing this pairing is the main culprit. He sacrificed these players and a lot of fans for money. Terrible person.

To your other point, I cant stand seeing odds all the time or reading/hearing about fans bets. And how shtty the are to players over losing money. Grimy as hell.

I know I sounds like a puritan wanting to keep the game pure, but damn gambling is nasty. It ruins peoples lives.

Maybe I am too harsh. These guys are fairly young and I forget sometimes that I was too.

Porter and Rozier ok. But yeah Beasley is just someone with serious character issues. Gambling is one thing, ripping people off is another. That's bad intent. He made more money than all of us on this forum put together. Pay your damn debts.

I agree with you. Gambling is toxic and addiction is a very real disease. The league should have never partnered with these companies. It's not about purity, it's about integrity and also with so many recovering gambling addicts in this country, the constant bombardment of gambling ads and odds during these games is messed up man.

[Guano]

I agree with you 100%.

This is Adam Silver's mess. He saw dollar signs instead of ensuring that the integrity of the sport remains intact.

I think Porter, Rozier (who per Pablo had NOT been cleared of any wrong doing) and Beasley are morons. Beasley is a bad person in general but Silver rushed the league into this without considering the consequences. This falls at his feet. These dumbasses got caught up.

Also, the fact that players receive death threats from degenerate gamblers isn't lost on me either.

Once you get into bed with gambling organizations, you start sliding down a slippery slope.

See I have a hard time calling these players morons... im soft. Yeah, Beasley is a bad person cause of the other sht he has done. But damn, greed can corrupt a man. And I just feel that Silver, the person with power and the responsibility of protecting the game, allowing this pairing is the main culprit. He sacrificed these players and a lot of fans for money. Terrible person.

To your other point, I cant stand seeing odds all the time or reading/hearing about fans bets. And how shtty the are to players over losing money. Grimy as hell.

I know I sounds like a puritan wanting to keep the game pure, but damn gambling is nasty. It ruins peoples lives.

Maybe I am too harsh. These guys are fairly young and I forget sometimes that I was too.

Porter and Rozier ok. But yeah Beasley is just someone with serious character issues. Gambling is one thing, ripping people off is another. That's bad intent. He made more money than all of us on this forum put together. Pay your damn debts.

I agree with you. Gambling is toxic and addiction is a very real disease. The league should have never partnered with these companies. It's not about purity, it's about integrity and also with so many recovering gambling addicts in this country, the constant bombardment of gambling ads and odds during these games is messed up man.

Yeah, its predatory.


The thing where I waffle with this topic is I dont like restricting the people that can handle it cause others cant - prohibition type sht.

[Jalen Bluntson]

See I have a hard time calling these players morons... im soft. Yeah, Beasley is a bad person cause of the other sht he has done. But damn, greed can corrupt a man. And I just feel that Silver, the person with power and the responsibility of protecting the game, allowing this pairing is the main culprit. He sacrificed these players and a lot of fans for money. Terrible person.

To your other point, I cant stand seeing odds all the time or reading/hearing about fans bets. And how shtty the are to players over losing money. Grimy as hell.

I know I sounds like a puritan wanting to keep the game pure, but damn gambling is nasty. It ruins peoples lives.

Maybe I am too harsh. These guys are fairly young and I forget sometimes that I was too.

Porter and Rozier ok. But yeah Beasley is just someone with serious character issues. Gambling is one thing, ripping people off is another. That's bad intent. He made more money than all of us on this forum put together. Pay your damn debts.

I agree with you. Gambling is toxic and addiction is a very real disease. The league should have never partnered with these companies. It's not about purity, it's about integrity and also with so many recovering gambling addicts in this country, the constant bombardment of gambling ads and odds during these games is messed up man.

Yeah, its predatory.


The thing where I waffle with this topic is I dont like restricting the people that can handle it cause others cant - prohibition type sht.

Were they betting against their own teams? Shaving points and such? I really haven't followed all of this. If so, it's not an addiction, it's corruption. It's a choice at that point. What was the motivation? They make millions to play a game and that's not enough? Did they lose it all gambling and then cheated the game? How deep is this?

[Guano]

Maybe I am too harsh. These guys are fairly young and I forget sometimes that I was too.

Porter and Rozier ok. But yeah Beasley is just someone with serious character issues. Gambling is one thing, ripping people off is another. That's bad intent. He made more money than all of us on this forum put together. Pay your damn debts.

I agree with you. Gambling is toxic and addiction is a very real disease. The league should have never partnered with these companies. It's not about purity, it's about integrity and also with so many recovering gambling addicts in this country, the constant bombardment of gambling ads and odds during these games is messed up man.

Yeah, its predatory.


The thing where I waffle with this topic is I dont like restricting the people that can handle it cause others cant - prohibition type sht.

Were they betting against their own teams? Shaving points and such? I really haven't followed all of this. If so, it's not an addiction, it's corruption. It's a choice at that point. What was the motivation? They make millions to play a game and that's not enough? Did they lose it all gambling and then cheated the game? How deep is this?

Beasley was actually busting his @ss to hit the under. He is a garbage time MJ.

The scope is that it encompasses both corruption and its exploits addiction. And its only going to get worse.

That ptfo episode is worth a spin.

[Wildcat]

The clippers have really had a strong offseason. Signed Beal, Brook Lopez and traded for John Collins. They have mad depth now. And if they get cp3 that would be even crazier.

Sounds like an old arse team to me.

Beal is 32
Collins is 27
Zubac is 28

Lopez is old but is still a good player. Same for Kawhi who just averaged 25 on 53/40/77 splits in the post season. Harden is still an all star. It’s a nice team. The age stuff is over exaggerated.

Okay. So not old arse but old. They're an old team. Trusting Leonard's health, trusting Hardening's playoff (dis)appearance, trusting the cliff won't hit CP3, and trusting Beal's capabilities of playing winning basketball (and being healthy) seems rather foolish to me.

[TheGreenArrow]

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[MrDollarBills]

Yeah, its predatory.


The thing where I waffle with this topic is I dont like restricting the people that can handle it cause others cant - prohibition type sht.

Were they betting against their own teams? Shaving points and such? I really haven't followed all of this. If so, it's not an addiction, it's corruption. It's a choice at that point. What was the motivation? They make millions to play a game and that's not enough? Did they lose it all gambling and then cheated the game? How deep is this?

Beasley was actually busting his @ss to hit the under. He is a garbage time MJ.

The scope is that it encompasses both corruption and its exploits addiction. And its only going to get worse.

That ptfo episode is worth a spin.

I agree. When you have free time, watch the video.

The paranoid side of me thinks that this is a lot bigger than what we're being led to believe by the media. Disney is up to its ears in gambling now and the NBA is their bedfellows. I think they know more than they are reporting. Shams trying to tell people that Terry Rozier was in the clear when he isn't is suspect to me.

A random NY bodega owner was in bed with Jontay Porter, and somehow his cousin knew months ago that Beasley was next? Someone is snitching

[MrDollarBills]

See I have a hard time calling these players morons... im soft. Yeah, Beasley is a bad person cause of the other sht he has done. But damn, greed can corrupt a man. And I just feel that Silver, the person with power and the responsibility of protecting the game, allowing this pairing is the main culprit. He sacrificed these players and a lot of fans for money. Terrible person.

To your other point, I cant stand seeing odds all the time or reading/hearing about fans bets. And how shtty the are to players over losing money. Grimy as hell.

I know I sounds like a puritan wanting to keep the game pure, but damn gambling is nasty. It ruins peoples lives.

Maybe I am too harsh. These guys are fairly young and I forget sometimes that I was too.

Porter and Rozier ok. But yeah Beasley is just someone with serious character issues. Gambling is one thing, ripping people off is another. That's bad intent. He made more money than all of us on this forum put together. Pay your damn debts.

I agree with you. Gambling is toxic and addiction is a very real disease. The league should have never partnered with these companies. It's not about purity, it's about integrity and also with so many recovering gambling addicts in this country, the constant bombardment of gambling ads and odds during these games is messed up man.

Yeah, its predatory.


The thing where I waffle with this topic is I dont like restricting the people that can handle it cause others cant - prohibition type sht.

I would treat gambling like legal weed and cigarettes. You can smoke and sell em, but you can't have TV ads for them. The ads are the most predatory thing about this.

Frankly alcohol ads should be banned too.

[omerome]

The clippers have really had a strong offseason. Signed Beal, Brook Lopez and traded for John Collins. They have mad depth now. And if they get cp3 that would be even crazier.

Every year we hear the same thing with the Clippers, though. And every year its the same thing. They get clipped by injuries or simply fail to meet expectations.

This offseason sounds no different. It's just another set of big names that will be a part of big names they've had, but when all is said and done, the results will likely come up small.

[Jalen Bluntson]

The clippers have really had a strong offseason. Signed Beal, Brook Lopez and traded for John Collins. They have mad depth now. And if they get cp3 that would be even crazier.

Every year we hear the same thing with the Clippers, though. And every year its the same thing. They get clipped by injuries or simply fail to meet expectations.

This offseason sounds no different. It's just another set of big names that will be a part of big names they've had, but when all is said and done, the results will likely come up small.

I can't help but feel the same way. They shuffle around players that were once great on their own and can never fit it together. The injury risk players. Passed their prime players. So many different iterations over the years that have never quite added up. Who knows? They have to prove it before I will believe it.

[3toheadmelo]

Sounds like an old arse team to me.

Beal is 32
Collins is 27
Zubac is 28

Lopez is old but is still a good player. Same for Kawhi who just averaged 25 on 53/40/77 splits in the post season. Harden is still an all star. It’s a nice team. The age stuff is over exaggerated.

Okay. So not old arse but old. They're an old team. Trusting Leonard's health, trusting Hardening's playoff (dis)appearance, trusting the cliff won't hit CP3, and trusting Beal's capabilities of playing winning basketball (and being healthy) seems rather foolish to me.

They’re sort of old but Kawhi was fully healthy this playoffs and while harden does disappear, there’ll be more scoring options around him so they won’t have to rely on harden so heavy now. I honestly feel like the Clippers have had the best off season by far of any team.

There’s an obvious risk it won’t work out with their health, but I don’t blame the clippers at all for taking the gamble. It’s a damn good team if it works out and their contracts expires in 2 years too so it doesn’t hurt them in the long run if it doesn’t work out.

[3toheadmelo]

The clippers have really had a strong offseason. Signed Beal, Brook Lopez and traded for John Collins. They have mad depth now. And if they get cp3 that would be even crazier.

Every year we hear the same thing with the Clippers, though. And every year its the same thing. They get clipped by injuries or simply fail to meet expectations.

This offseason sounds no different. It's just another set of big names that will be a part of big names they've had, but when all is said and done, the results will likely come up small.

I think this is the most depth they’ve had though out of all of their teams. Kawhi looks like he’s past his injuries now too. I guess we’ll see.

[ctorres]

I don't know what other thread this would belong in, lol

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