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soxperry · Post #1581 » by **soxperry** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 1:56 am

With the apron rules and with the contending teams spending all the picks to build and maintain their status, there are going to be more and more guys like Cole Anthony who do have some very useful skills but who also just dont have playing time where they were drafted anymore. So the OKCs, Orlandos, Atlantas, whoever, need to jettison these guys and the Milwaukees and Phoenixes will greedily scoop them up.

Yes, their former team is playing the odds correctly by giving younger, theoretically more talented players an opportunity, but every once in a while one of those passed over players is going to pop... hopefully for us

soxperry · Post #1582 » by **soxperry** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 1:58 am

-Jragon- wrote:
soxperry wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:

Read on Twitter

LOL. "Lets get this money"

We are about to see either the very best or the very worst he has to offer.

Also this:

Giannis. Bobby. Scoot.

Doc clearly loves kpj (based on SL interview) and now Horst revealing the pecking order.

Im guessing its Kpj starting at pg, Cole primary backup, and Rollins swapping between pg/sg duties as needed.

Giannis, Bobby, Scoot... hmmmm.
MVP, bench dude, unproven

Feels like he's playing to the crowd favorites.. otherwise Turner should be mentioned instead

He was talking about getting those guys some help. Turner is the help

-Jragon- · Post #1583 » by **-Jragon-** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 2:05 am

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
Bernman wrote:
soxperry wrote:One last thing... Bobby has already had a big role. Hes one of the first guys off the bench. So does a bigger role mean hes starting?

Are we going with

Kpj
Green/Trent
Giannis
Bobby
Turner?

No, maybe we just do that game 5 starting lineup more often now, even close w/ it sometimes. Turner didn't close all the time w/ Indy.

i think its possible what he suggested. i know you are what you defend but if we turn it around offensively....

giannis/cole
kpj/rollins/harris
green/trent
portis/kuzma/prince
turner/sims

the pg giannis thing thats been discussed....what if literally...hes the pg? if doc likes big lineups then there you have it. thats pretty big. thats also decent amounts of time for everybody. if giannis is the pg/sf however you want to call it then the roster composition makes more sense

Fail lineup if we don't start 7 centers.. we should have traded for unicorn and Durant lol

-Jragon- · Post #1584 » by **-Jragon-** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 2:10 am

Reading between the lines... we knew Beal was going to LA and maybe Giannis didn't want the Paul headache so we go Cole? Idk

soxperry · Post #1585 » by **soxperry** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 2:13 am

-Jragon- wrote:Reading between the lines... we knew Beal was going to LA and maybe Giannis didn't want the Paul headache so we go Cole? Idk

i refuse to believe that Paul was ever an option. that's just not a serious decision for any team trying to contend right now. get him to Charlotte where he can provide some leadership and lay some groundwork. to think that Paul was going to help us compete with Cleveland or New York is just silly

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #1586 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 2:17 am

soxperry wrote:
-Jragon- wrote:Reading between the lines... we knew Beal was going to LA and maybe Giannis didn't want the Paul headache so we go Cole? Idk

i refuse to believe that Paul was ever an option. that's just not a serious decision for any team trying to contend right now. get him to Charlotte where he can provide some leadership and lay some groundwork. to think that Paul was going to help us compete with Cleveland or New York is just silly

As opposed to having Cole to help us compete with Cleveland or NY?

-Jragon- · Post #1587 » by **-Jragon-** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 2:18 am

soxperry wrote:
-Jragon- wrote:Reading between the lines... we knew Beal was going to LA and maybe Giannis didn't want the Paul headache so we go Cole? Idk

i refuse to believe that Paul was ever an option. that's just not a serious decision for any team trying to contend right now. get him to Charlotte where he can provide some leadership and lay some groundwork. to think that Paul was going to help us compete with Cleveland or New York is just silly

Paul played good last year. His worst NBA year will likely be better than Cole's best , come on... Giannis.. we can get Cole or Paul.. who do you want?

I think Giannis wants the ball every time down the floor. What's the highest Usage % in NBA history? I think he's going to try to get his MVP by playing like Jokic this year and average a triple dub. He doesn't want a real PG

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #1588 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 2:19 am

MVP2110 wrote:Yea I think this is our roster with just a Thanasis signing remaining

KPJ/Anthony/Sears*
GTJ/Rollins/Harris/Bouyea*
Green/Prince/Livingston/Thanasis
Giannis/Kuzma/Smith/Nance*
Turner/Bobby/Sims

Smith is guaranteed for this year and next? Kind of the downside to going long on guaranteed contracts with second rounders. Great when you hit, but most of the time it is just wasted money and roster spot.

soxperry · Post #1589 » by **soxperry** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 2:29 am

-Jragon- wrote:
soxperry wrote:
-Jragon- wrote:Reading between the lines... we knew Beal was going to LA and maybe Giannis didn't want the Paul headache so we go Cole? Idk

i refuse to believe that Paul was ever an option. that's just not a serious decision for any team trying to contend right now. get him to Charlotte where he can provide some leadership and lay some groundwork. to think that Paul was going to help us compete with Cleveland or New York is just silly

Paul played good last year. His worst NBA year will likely be better than Cole's best , come on... Giannis.. we can get Cole or Paul.. who do you want?

I think Giannis wants the ball every time down the floor. What's the highest Usage % in NBA history? I think he's going to try to get his MVP by playing like Jokic this year and average a triple dub. He doesn't want a real PG

that's fine, i'm more concerned with Paul's ability to defend at the age of 40 years old. even in the best possible case scenario and he could be kinda like Peyton Manning in his last pro season, playing almost exclusively with his brain and not his body, there's the irrational need to just not have someone like him on the court after going through two straight seasons of watching old tired legs get throttled.

MVP2110 · Post #1590 » by **MVP2110** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 2:31 am

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:Yea I think this is our roster with just a Thanasis signing remaining

KPJ/Anthony/Sears*
GTJ/Rollins/Harris/Bouyea*
Green/Prince/Livingston/Thanasis
Giannis/Kuzma/Smith/Nance*
Turner/Bobby/Sims

Smith is guaranteed for this year and next? Kind of the downside to going long on guaranteed contracts with second rounders. Great when you hit, but most of the time it is just wasted money and roster spot.

Only this season is guaranteed

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/player/_/id/91762/tylersmith

VooDoo7 · Post #1591 » by **VooDoo7** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 2:33 am

Watching the ESPY's and seeing Oscar Robertson win the Arthur Ashe Award for Courage. If you didn't know his age, there's no way you'd guess he's 86. Looks to be in great shape and still sharp as a tack.

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #1592 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 2:49 am

soxperry wrote:
-Jragon- wrote:
soxperry wrote:
i refuse to believe that Paul was ever an option. that's just not a serious decision for any team trying to contend right now. get him to Charlotte where he can provide some leadership and lay some groundwork. to think that Paul was going to help us compete with Cleveland or New York is just silly

Paul played good last year. His worst NBA year will likely be better than Cole's best , come on... Giannis.. we can get Cole or Paul.. who do you want?

I think Giannis wants the ball every time down the floor. What's the highest Usage % in NBA history? I think he's going to try to get his MVP by playing like Jokic this year and average a triple dub. He doesn't want a real PG

that's fine, i'm more concerned with Paul's ability to defend at the age of 40 years old. even in the best possible case scenario and he could be kinda like Peyton Manning in his last pro season, playing almost exclusively with his brain and not his body, there's the irrational need to just not have someone like him on the court after going through two straight seasons of watching old tired legs get throttled.

We also saw a **** ton of low IQ basketball the last couple years that undid us as well. It's not just that we were old and slow.... We were old slow and stupid

soxperry · Post #1593 » by **soxperry** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 3:03 am

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
soxperry wrote:
-Jragon- wrote:

Paul played good last year. His worst NBA year will likely be better than Cole's best , come on... Giannis.. we can get Cole or Paul.. who do you want?

I think Giannis wants the ball every time down the floor. What's the highest Usage % in NBA history? I think he's going to try to get his MVP by playing like Jokic this year and average a triple dub. He doesn't want a real PG

that's fine, i'm more concerned with Paul's ability to defend at the age of 40 years old. even in the best possible case scenario and he could be kinda like Peyton Manning in his last pro season, playing almost exclusively with his brain and not his body, there's the irrational need to just not have someone like him on the court after going through two straight seasons of watching old tired legs get throttled.

We also saw a **** ton of low IQ basketball the last couple years that undid us as well. It's not just that we were old and slow.... We were old slow and stupid

i think we all crave bbiq, i'm just not that desperate for it that i want the geezer

drone3 · Post #1594 » by **drone3** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 4:13 am

Livingston earned and deserved this spot. Worked on his game and his body, he's locked in

Wonka · Post #1595 » by **Wonka** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 4:34 am

drone3 wrote:Livingston earned and deserved this spot. Worked on his game and his body, he's locked in

By having a few solid summer league games? The bar is low. He has shown exactly nothing on the actual NBA level over two years. He has earned and deserved absolutely nothing :lol:

-Jragon- · Post #1596 » by **-Jragon-** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 4:42 am

soxperry wrote:
-Jragon- wrote:
soxperry wrote:
i refuse to believe that Paul was ever an option. that's just not a serious decision for any team trying to contend right now. get him to Charlotte where he can provide some leadership and lay some groundwork. to think that Paul was going to help us compete with Cleveland or New York is just silly

Paul played good last year. His worst NBA year will likely be better than Cole's best , come on... Giannis.. we can get Cole or Paul.. who do you want?

I think Giannis wants the ball every time down the floor. What's the highest Usage % in NBA history? I think he's going to try to get his MVP by playing like Jokic this year and average a triple dub. He doesn't want a real PG

that's fine, i'm more concerned with Paul's ability to defend at the age of 40 years old. even in the best possible case scenario and he could be kinda like Peyton Manning in his last pro season, playing almost exclusively with his brain and not his body, there's the irrational need to just not have someone like him on the court after going through two straight seasons of watching old tired legs get throttled.

That's possible

tedbrogen · Post #1597 » by **tedbrogen** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 5:37 am

Wonka wrote:
drone3 wrote:Livingston earned and deserved this spot. Worked on his game and his body, he's locked in

By having a few solid summer league games? The bar is low. He has shown exactly nothing on the actual NBA level over two years. He has earned and deserved absolutely nothing

I thought he looked decent in garbage time last season. Was able to get to the rim. Didn’t seem nearly as lost as the rest of the Bucks garbage gang.

tedbrogen · Post #1598 » by **tedbrogen** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 5:38 am

MVP2110 wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:Yea I think this is our roster with just a Thanasis signing remaining

KPJ/Anthony/Sears*
GTJ/Rollins/Harris/Bouyea*
Green/Prince/Livingston/Thanasis
Giannis/Kuzma/Smith/Nance*
Turner/Bobby/Sims

Smith is guaranteed for this year and next? Kind of the downside to going long on guaranteed contracts with second rounders. Great when you hit, but most of the time it is just wasted money and roster spot.

Only this season is guaranteed

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/player/_/id/91762/tylersmith

And they are so far under the tax this season that if they want to cut him to sign another vet min, it doesn’t matter.

drone3 · Post #1599 » by **drone3** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:53 am

Wonka wrote:
drone3 wrote:Livingston earned and deserved this spot. Worked on his game and his body, he's locked in

By having a few solid summer league games? The bar is low. He has shown exactly nothing on the actual NBA level over two years. He has earned and deserved absolutely nothing

You're right the bar is low but he performed in G- League, Training, Summer league... When one of our young guys actually develops he has earned it

ShootingtheJ · Post #1600 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:44 am

-Jragon- wrote:
soxperry wrote:
-Jragon- wrote:Reading between the lines... we knew Beal was going to LA and maybe Giannis didn't want the Paul headache so we go Cole? Idk

i refuse to believe that Paul was ever an option. that's just not a serious decision for any team trying to contend right now. get him to Charlotte where he can provide some leadership and lay some groundwork. to think that Paul was going to help us compete with Cleveland or New York is just silly

Paul played good last year. His worst NBA year will likely be better than Cole's best , come on... Giannis.. we can get Cole or Paul.. who do you want?

I think Giannis wants the ball every time down the floor. What's the highest Usage % in NBA history? I think he's going to try to get his MVP by playing like Jokic this year and average a triple dub. He doesn't want a real PG

Giannis wasn't even top 10 in touches last year because selfish scrub Dame wouldn't give him the damn ball, and it ruined our offense. Once we finally handed the ball back to Giannis our offensive numbers were awesome, #2 in the league, despite being surrounded with pedestrian talent.

Getting the ball in Giannis hands had nothing to do with chasing the MVP, it's about winning.