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Post#541 » by Old_Blue » Wed Jul 16, 2025 11:14 pm

vvoland, I haven't referenced other players in the League because I don't care about them. I'm a Warriors fan. We all have just so much time to devote to what is, at most, a subject of entertainment for us as fans. That's why I'm focused on Kuminga's decision. You seem particularly triggered by my suggestion that a player from an impoverished country should be trying to do something to help his countrymen. You mentioned that you're from Ukraine. Know this. I am not saying that everyone from an impoverished or war torn country carries a burden to give back. Merely getting yourself and/or your family out of such circumstances was, I am sure, harrowing enough. Perhaps this is why you're reacting the way you are to the sentiments I have expressed. The circumstances surrounding Kuminga are different though. The money we're talking about here is, in your own words, "more money than you'll see in 10 lifetimes." Congratulations by the way on expecting to make $15 million during your lifetime. If you are successful in that goal, you will have done better than most of us. I too am from an immigrant family that left a country teetering on the edge of civil war. But, from out of that background, I carry a different perspective. My family's motto is based on the words my Mom told the rest of her family when she left her country to come to the U.S. - Un día volveré por ustedes (One day I will return for you). For me and mine, giving back is of paramount importance. Hopefully, this gives you a better idea of where I'm coming from. Slava Ukraini
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#542 » by Crazy-Canuck » Wed Jul 16, 2025 11:36 pm

Nothing is imminent because jk and his team are scouring reddit for abbreviated nba contract negotiations 101. The nba book on contracts was too technical as well as too long to read.
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Post#543 » by vvoland » Wed Jul 16, 2025 11:47 pm

Old_Blue wrote:vvoland, I haven't referenced other players in the League because I don't care about them. I'm a Warriors fan. We all have just so much time to devote to what is, at most, a subject of entertainment for us as fans. That's why I'm focused on Kuminga's decision. You seem particularly triggered by my suggestion that a player from an impoverished country should be trying to do something to help his countrymen. You mentioned that you're from Ukraine. Know this. I am not saying that everyone from an impoverished or war torn country carries a burden to give back. Merely getting yourself and/or your family out of such circumstances was, I am sure, harrowing enough. Perhaps this is why you're reacting the way you are to the sentiments I have expressed. The circumstances surrounding Kuminga are different though. The money we're talking about here is, in your own words, "more money than you'll see in 10 lifetimes." Congratulations by the way on expecting to make $15 million during your lifetime. If you are successful in that goal, you will have done better than most of us. I too am from an immigrant family that left a country teetering on the edge of civil war. But, from out of that background, I carry a different perspective. My family's motto is based on the words my Mom told the rest of her family when she left her country to come to the U.S. - Un día volveré por ustedes (One day I will return for you). For me and mine, giving back is of paramount importance. Hopefully, this gives you a better idea of where I'm coming from. Slava Ukraini



We're not talking about giving back, I think we all agree on the individuality of those choices. If I had spent years and tens of thousands of dollars to get people out of ukraine, or I didn't, shouldn't be a primary driver of someone else's logic about why I left my last job, took a different job, or asked for a raise. Unless, of course, they actually know what I did and what drives me. I'm not at all triggered by your implication that people need to give back (or should?). I happen to agree with that sentiment in both theory and practice. I'm proud and confident about what I've done for my folks, family, friends, and complete strangers. I appreciate others calling for people to do so.

What I don't particularly enjoy is using an immigrant's country of origin as a major factor in their decisions. It's reductive. At least, when that same level of granularity doesn't apply to other folks in this situation. Again, maybe you did reference Monta's community/poverty when discussing his moped incidents or contract renegotiations. Maybe Steph's upbringing was the decisive factor in why you think he took a discounted deal. Or Klay's home environment as to why he was so proud and didn't even entertain coming back after the dubs 'insulted' him with their de-prioritization of his free agency last year. I just don't remember those conversations.

I don't think you know JK or his circumstances. Here's a real life example, if you allow me a few more personal details. Yes, I come from Ukraine but like a lot of Ukrainians, I have half my family from/still in russia. I spent a lot of my time there, as a kid. I speak russian, even now, to my kids and wife. If I had 150M? I would use 140M of that to cause as much destruction in the russian federation as I could. Safe to say I felt very differently about russia in 2014, after moving back to Kyiv, getting married, and having a kid there, than I did when I left the USSR, when it was all still the USSR. Or even than I felt about russia in 2010. We all feel very different about the places we come from and that dichotomy/ambivalence is part of the human condition. That guessing game is impossible and NOTHING good comes from it.

For all we know, JK grew up around money and isn't driven by it, or is driven only by money, because he was raised with it. Or because he was dirt poor. I've seen both. Similarly, giving back may be vital for JK and having already made 30M, to take care of the people important to him is job well done. Maybe his motivation is dead, now that they're all set, financially. Well before the 150M. Who knows? Why speculate? What we do know is, JK likely turned down a deal worth 2x to what he's going to see today. What's worse, he got hurt during the year, lost his spot, and his rep took a hit. What's even worse, people could see the horrible RFA market coming from 12 months away. His agent's NBA roster is garbage. His team's decision making this offseason has been shaky, at best. That's what we know. That's plenty.

P.S. I def don't expect do make 15M, I was saying that the amount he already made (~30M) is more than I'm likely to see in 10 lifetimes. I'll wrap it pu and just congrats to you, and probably like 75% of this board, for making it out of some terrible country, first generation or otherwise, and ending up in SF. It's truly the greatest city I've ever seen (and while I haven't seen them all, I've seen a lot). The chances of some kid born in Kyiv/Dhaka/Managua/wherever, ever making it here isn't too far off the odds of some kid from the Congo getting drafted #7. Go dubs.
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#544 » by Old_Blue » Thu Jul 17, 2025 12:06 am

vvoland, I think I have been amply polite with you during this exchange. At this point though, you seem more inclined to attempt to tell me what I should or should not believe and how I should or should not convey it. To which I would simply say - Cool it. While you might have additional time to dwell on the issue, I do not. Enjoy the rest of your day.
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Post#545 » by AirP. » Thu Jul 17, 2025 2:44 pm

Real question, how much will make Kuminga happy.

I ask that because the MLE is ~14 mil this year, probably ~15 mil next year, from his advantage point I would have to say after this season he can expect 15 mil a year at minimum, someone will take a chance with their MLE on Kuminga next season as an UFA.

So, in the next 3 seasons from Kuminga's side is looking at a minimum of taking the QO and +2 years of MLE which is 3y/38 million. So, I can see Kuminga not taking 20 mil a year (because he won't get the buy in from the team he wants) UNLESS there's a promise of working with him to get him to a team that will better use his game. After this year, is 20 mil a year really worth it for a less buy in (smaller team investment) from a team then just going out and getting the MLE at 15 with the opportunity to pick your team to showcase his talents for a much larger 3rd contract?

I do believe, if GS were to do a 1+1, Kuminga would have veto rights that first year which may limit Golden State's return. This usually isn't an issue since these types of contracts are overpayments to current players based on the player being willing to go anywhere in a trade.

I don't see Kuminga's untapped potential after being in the NBA 4 years (ignite 1 year) being enough to limit what this team does possibly the last 2 years of trying to be competitive for Curry. The post-Curry era is just a few years away where GS will get high draft picks (which is why you don't want to move future picks now) and get to watch them have all the time they want to develop.

It is an interesting situation for Kuminga and GS.
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Post#546 » by whatisacenter » Thu Jul 17, 2025 3:28 pm

Sounds like Seth Curry could be a Warrior.

“I always have to do what's best for myself,” Seth Curry says. “Obviously, Steph would love me to come over there and play with him. And the fans showed me a lot of love at all times. (Our) Family would love it. I've obviously I've always embraced the Warriors and their system and love the way they play. And you never know what can happen.”


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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#547 » by Onus » Thu Jul 17, 2025 3:45 pm

whatisacenter wrote:Sounds like Seth Curry could be a Warrior.

“I always have to do what's best for myself,” Seth Curry says. “Obviously, Steph would love me to come over there and play with him. And the fans showed me a lot of love at all times. (Our) Family would love it. I've obviously I've always embraced the Warriors and their system and love the way they play. And you never know what can happen.”


https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nba/golden-state-warriors/seth-steph-curry-nba-makes-sense/1862257/

It would depend on what JK gets since Seth maybe 3rd or 4th in the vets that we can fit since Horford is 1st, Melton is 2nd.
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#548 » by TB » Thu Jul 17, 2025 3:55 pm

Seth could definitely make sense as some Buddy coverage. I mean i’d take him over Spencer who I have been pencilling in as the last spot. For instance, adding him to my current preferred, somewhat realistic, options:

Kuminga 3 or 4 years starting at 21m
Horford TPMLE
Morris vet min
Melton vet min
Seth vet min

Steph / Morris / Seth
Podz / Buddy / Melton
Jimmy / Moody
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#549 » by vvoland » Thu Jul 17, 2025 4:36 pm

Onus wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:Sounds like Seth Curry could be a Warrior.

“I always have to do what's best for myself,” Seth Curry says. “Obviously, Steph would love me to come over there and play with him. And the fans showed me a lot of love at all times. (Our) Family would love it. I've obviously I've always embraced the Warriors and their system and love the way they play. And you never know what can happen.”


https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nba/golden-state-warriors/seth-steph-curry-nba-makes-sense/1862257/

It would depend on what JK gets since Seth maybe 3rd or 4th in the vets that we can fit since Horford is 1st, Melton is 2nd.


we gotta be really confident in Melton's knee if he's the no 1 priority vet min guard we're bringing in. Really surprised to see us not being linked with a single backup pg, just combo guards.
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Post#550 » by AirP. » Thu Jul 17, 2025 4:45 pm

Golden State is at 170 mil with 9 players.

Kuminga at 25 mil (which it is rumored he wants at a minimum) puts GS at 195 with 10 players, so 4 more players (4 for the league minimum 14 active players) for 12 million to stay under the 2nd apron.

Trading Kuminga for say half of 30 mil puts them at 185 mil and they could get multiple bodies making it possible to stay under the 1st apron and offer Horford nearly the same amount of money he made last year in Boston. This might be the reason Horford hasn't signed yet or retired yet. Trading Kuminga may also net GS Horford.

It's more than talent for talent in a Kuminga trade; it's also about staying under the specific aprons to possibly add Horford. I'd guess there's a specific number Horford thinks is worth playing for vs retiring and that number may only be possible by moving Kuminga.

So many overlapping threads on the Warrior's offseason, why not just put it all in one thread?

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Post#551 » by EvanZ » Thu Jul 17, 2025 5:12 pm

AirP. wrote:Real question, how much will make Kuminga happy.

I ask that because the MLE is ~14 mil this year, probably ~15 mil next year, from his advantage point I would have to say after this season he can expect 15 mil a year at minimum, someone will take a chance with their MLE on Kuminga next season as an UFA.

So, in the next 3 seasons from Kuminga's side is looking at a minimum of taking the QO and +2 years of MLE which is 3y/38 million. So, I can see Kuminga not taking 20 mil a year (because he won't get the buy in from the team he wants) UNLESS there's a promise of working with him to get him to a team that will better use his game. After this year, is 20 mil a year really worth it for a less buy in (smaller team investment) from a team then just going out and getting the MLE at 15 with the opportunity to pick your team to showcase his talents for a much larger 3rd contract?

I do believe, if GS were to do a 1+1, Kuminga would have veto rights that first year which may limit Golden State's return. This usually isn't an issue since these types of contracts are overpayments to current players based on the player being willing to go anywhere in a trade.

I don't see Kuminga's untapped potential after being in the NBA 4 years (ignite 1 year) being enough to limit what this team does possibly the last 2 years of trying to be competitive for Curry. The post-Curry era is just a few years away where GS will get high draft picks (which is why you don't want to move future picks now) and get to watch them have all the time they want to develop.

It is an interesting situation for Kuminga and GS.


This is not certain at all. He could literally be out of Kerr's rotation the entire season. We just don't know.
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#552 » by AirP. » Thu Jul 17, 2025 5:14 pm

EvanZ wrote:
AirP. wrote:Real question, how much will make Kuminga happy.

I ask that because the MLE is ~14 mil this year, probably ~15 mil next year, from his advantage point I would have to say after this season he can expect 15 mil a year at minimum, someone will take a chance with their MLE on Kuminga next season as an UFA.

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So, in the next 3 seasons from Kuminga's side is looking at a minimum of taking the QO and +2 years of MLE which is 3y/38 million. So, I can see Kuminga not taking 20 mil a year (because he won't get the buy in from the team he wants) UNLESS there's a promise of working with him to get him to a team that will better use his game. After this year, is 20 mil a year really worth it for a less buy in (smaller team investment) from a team then just going out and getting the MLE at 15 with the opportunity to pick your team to showcase his talents for a much larger 3rd contract?

I do believe, if GS were to do a 1+1, Kuminga would have veto rights that first year which may limit Golden State's return. This usually isn't an issue since these types of contracts are overpayments to current players based on the player being willing to go anywhere in a trade.

I don't see Kuminga's untapped potential after being in the NBA 4 years (ignite 1 year) being enough to limit what this team does possibly the last 2 years of trying to be competitive for Curry. The post-Curry era is just a few years away where GS will get high draft picks (which is why you don't want to move future picks now) and get to watch them have all the time they want to develop.


It is an interesting situation for Kuminga and GS.


This is not certain at all. He could literally be out of Kerr's rotation the entire season. We just don't know.

I think someone would give him the MLE if he wasn't in the rotation ALL of next year. No assets being exchanged, just a straight MLE by a bad or rebuilding team looking to acquire talent, the contenders probably won't have the MLE to offer.
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#553 » by Onus » Thu Jul 17, 2025 5:20 pm

AirP. wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
AirP. wrote:Real question, how much will make Kuminga happy.

I ask that because the MLE is ~14 mil this year, probably ~15 mil next year, from his advantage point I would have to say after this season he can expect 15 mil a year at minimum, someone will take a chance with their MLE on Kuminga next season as an UFA.

Spoiler:
So, in the next 3 seasons from Kuminga's side is looking at a minimum of taking the QO and +2 years of MLE which is 3y/38 million. So, I can see Kuminga not taking 20 mil a year (because he won't get the buy in from the team he wants) UNLESS there's a promise of working with him to get him to a team that will better use his game. After this year, is 20 mil a year really worth it for a less buy in (smaller team investment) from a team then just going out and getting the MLE at 15 with the opportunity to pick your team to showcase his talents for a much larger 3rd contract?

I do believe, if GS were to do a 1+1, Kuminga would have veto rights that first year which may limit Golden State's return. This usually isn't an issue since these types of contracts are overpayments to current players based on the player being willing to go anywhere in a trade.

I don't see Kuminga's untapped potential after being in the NBA 4 years (ignite 1 year) being enough to limit what this team does possibly the last 2 years of trying to be competitive for Curry. The post-Curry era is just a few years away where GS will get high draft picks (which is why you don't want to move future picks now) and get to watch them have all the time they want to develop.


It is an interesting situation for Kuminga and GS.


This is not certain at all. He could literally be out of Kerr's rotation the entire season. We just don't know.

I think someone would give him the MLE if he wasn't in the rotation ALL of next year. No assets being exchanged, just a straight MLE by a bad or rebuilding team looking to acquire talent, the contenders probably won't have the MLE to offer.

MLE is not the floor. It's likely but it's not the bottom.

JK and his agent would be foolish and idiotic to play on the QO over 5M this year or 10M over 2 years. JK really screwed up choosing this agent because this agent is an amateur and doesn't know what he's doing. He is trying though, but is rather clueless.
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#554 » by vvoland » Thu Jul 17, 2025 5:22 pm

AirP. wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
AirP. wrote:Real question, how much will make Kuminga happy.

I ask that because the MLE is ~14 mil this year, probably ~15 mil next year, from his advantage point I would have to say after this season he can expect 15 mil a year at minimum, someone will take a chance with their MLE on Kuminga next season as an UFA.

Spoiler:
So, in the next 3 seasons from Kuminga's side is looking at a minimum of taking the QO and +2 years of MLE which is 3y/38 million. So, I can see Kuminga not taking 20 mil a year (because he won't get the buy in from the team he wants) UNLESS there's a promise of working with him to get him to a team that will better use his game. After this year, is 20 mil a year really worth it for a less buy in (smaller team investment) from a team then just going out and getting the MLE at 15 with the opportunity to pick your team to showcase his talents for a much larger 3rd contract?

I do believe, if GS were to do a 1+1, Kuminga would have veto rights that first year which may limit Golden State's return. This usually isn't an issue since these types of contracts are overpayments to current players based on the player being willing to go anywhere in a trade.

I don't see Kuminga's untapped potential after being in the NBA 4 years (ignite 1 year) being enough to limit what this team does possibly the last 2 years of trying to be competitive for Curry. The post-Curry era is just a few years away where GS will get high draft picks (which is why you don't want to move future picks now) and get to watch them have all the time they want to develop.


It is an interesting situation for Kuminga and GS.


This is not certain at all. He could literally be out of Kerr's rotation the entire season. We just don't know.

I think someone would give him the MLE if he wasn't in the rotation ALL of next year. No assets being exchanged, just a straight MLE by a bad or rebuilding team looking to acquire talent, the contenders probably won't have the MLE to offer.


Yeah, if Kerr just banishes him for Kerr reasons, there would be a handful of very bad teams that would take a chance on him at a NTMLE price. LIke we did w/ Melton last year.

His real concern is getting hurt, again, and if it's a season ender, he may be looking at a prove-it, tax payer MLE, level deal next season. He just got hurt and missed 30 games due to an ankle sprain. He's been relatively lucky so far to avoid major injury but would you take that chance after seeing a bunch of young players tear an acl/meniscus/achilles?

Even in your scenario, 3/38 is a far cry from 3/60 with a PO, which I'm fairly confident he can get, even at this stage. Especially, since, after the first 2 years of that deal, he'd make 22 vs 40+.
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#555 » by AirP. » Thu Jul 17, 2025 5:23 pm

Onus wrote:
AirP. wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
This is not certain at all. He could literally be out of Kerr's rotation the entire season. We just don't know.

I think someone would give him the MLE if he wasn't in the rotation ALL of next year. No assets being exchanged, just a straight MLE by a bad or rebuilding team looking to acquire talent, the contenders probably won't have the MLE to offer.

MLE is not the floor. It's likely but it's not the bottom.

JK and his agent would be foolish and idiotic to play on the QO over 5M this year or 10M over 2 years. JK really screwed up choosing this agent because this agent is an amateur and doesn't know what he's doing. He is trying though, but is rather clueless.


I still think the MLE is the floor, someone is going to eat up their cap space and then be completely good adding a 23-year-old Kuminga for 15 mil a year (MLE). Kuminga's agent screw up last year and with that, completely changed the Warrior's timeline which he's probably not really a part of until 2027.
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Post#556 » by vvoland » Thu Jul 17, 2025 5:24 pm

Onus wrote:
AirP. wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
This is not certain at all. He could literally be out of Kerr's rotation the entire season. We just don't know.

I think someone would give him the MLE if he wasn't in the rotation ALL of next year. No assets being exchanged, just a straight MLE by a bad or rebuilding team looking to acquire talent, the contenders probably won't have the MLE to offer.

MLE is not the floor. It's likely but it's not the bottom.

JK and his agent would be foolish and idiotic to play on the QO over 5M this year or 10M over 2 years. JK really screwed up choosing this agent because this agent is an amateur and doesn't know what he's doing. He is trying though, but is rather clueless.


As you mentioned in a bit earlier, JK's new contract, assuming he doesn't take the QO, in the next 2 years, is likely to pay him only ~$10M less than the reported 5/150. Possibly not much less at all, depending on the actual details of the contract offered last season.
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#557 » by Onus » Thu Jul 17, 2025 5:49 pm

AirP. wrote:
Onus wrote:
AirP. wrote:I think someone would give him the MLE if he wasn't in the rotation ALL of next year. No assets being exchanged, just a straight MLE by a bad or rebuilding team looking to acquire talent, the contenders probably won't have the MLE to offer.

MLE is not the floor. It's likely but it's not the bottom.

JK and his agent would be foolish and idiotic to play on the QO over 5M this year or 10M over 2 years. JK really screwed up choosing this agent because this agent is an amateur and doesn't know what he's doing. He is trying though, but is rather clueless.


I still think the MLE is the floor, someone is going to eat up their cap space and then be completely good adding a 23-year-old Kuminga for 15 mil a year (MLE). Kuminga's agent screw up last year and with that, completely changed the Warrior's timeline which he's probably not really a part of until 2027.

I'm not going to say it out loud but just think why the MLE is not the floor. Why would he need to get insurance?
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#558 » by vvoland » Thu Jul 17, 2025 5:52 pm

AirP. wrote:
Onus wrote:
AirP. wrote:I think someone would give him the MLE if he wasn't in the rotation ALL of next year. No assets being exchanged, just a straight MLE by a bad or rebuilding team looking to acquire talent, the contenders probably won't have the MLE to offer.

MLE is not the floor. It's likely but it's not the bottom.

JK and his agent would be foolish and idiotic to play on the QO over 5M this year or 10M over 2 years. JK really screwed up choosing this agent because this agent is an amateur and doesn't know what he's doing. He is trying though, but is rather clueless.


I still think the MLE is the floor, someone is going to eat up their cap space and then be completely good adding a 23-year-old Kuminga for 15 mil a year (MLE). Kuminga's agent screw up last year and with that, completely changed the Warrior's timeline which he's probably not really a part of until 2027.


I would say that JK not taking that offer last year completely SAVED the warriors' timeline. We'd be pretty far up a creek if we were actually paying JK 30M next season.
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#559 » by AirP. » Thu Jul 17, 2025 6:07 pm

Onus wrote:
AirP. wrote:
Onus wrote:MLE is not the floor. It's likely but it's not the bottom.

JK and his agent would be foolish and idiotic to play on the QO over 5M this year or 10M over 2 years. JK really screwed up choosing this agent because this agent is an amateur and doesn't know what he's doing. He is trying though, but is rather clueless.


I still think the MLE is the floor, someone is going to eat up their cap space and then be completely good adding a 23-year-old Kuminga for 15 mil a year (MLE). Kuminga's agent screw up last year and with that, completely changed the Warrior's timeline which he's probably not really a part of until 2027.

I'm not going to say it out loud but just think why the MLE is not the floor. Why would he need to get insurance?


Insurance? You mean if he has a horrible injury while waiting for his FA, there is risk but players are coming back much better today then they were a decade ago, medical technology has made great strides in recent years. If he had any real concerns about that he should have taken the offer a year ago, obliviously he's ready to bet on himself. Jimmy Butler bet on himself even with the GM telling him to take a much lesser contract or he'd have him buried on the bench, obviously that didn't happen and that's one of the reason the Bulls FO wanted to fire Thibodeau. Butler did mention this once in an interview and won't mention it again (probably not good to out a FO). Chicago has been such a horrible organization (I was a longtime fan of theirs until I kept hearing these types of stories over and over).
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Re: Warriors Free Agency 2025 

Post#560 » by Onus » Thu Jul 17, 2025 6:10 pm

AirP. wrote:
Onus wrote:
AirP. wrote:
I still think the MLE is the floor, someone is going to eat up their cap space and then be completely good adding a 23-year-old Kuminga for 15 mil a year (MLE). Kuminga's agent screw up last year and with that, completely changed the Warrior's timeline which he's probably not really a part of until 2027.

I'm not going to say it out loud but just think why the MLE is not the floor. Why would he need to get insurance?


Insurance? You mean if he has a horrible injury while waiting for his FA, there is risk but players are coming back much better today then they were a decade ago, medical technology has made great strides in recent years. If he had any real concerns about that he should have taken the offer a year ago, obliviously he's ready to bet on himself.

So the mle is not the floor
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