Two Cavs trades with Jazz and Thunder

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Re: Two Cavs trades with Jazz and Thunder 

Post#21 » by toooskies » Thu Jul 17, 2025 6:36 pm

BK_2020 wrote:
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BK_2020 wrote:Can't the Cavs just play Mobley at 5 when Allen sits? They need depth behind them but Strus and 1st is a high price to pay for a 3rd string.

I mean, you can play Mobley exclusively at the 4, which lets Hunter play more or exclusively at the 3. Honestly the Mobley/Allen combo falters slightly in the playoffs because they get too tired late in the 4th quarter. There's logic to getting another big that's viable in the playoffs. You can pair up Mobley and Allen more in bench units with another true C on the roster.

But I don't think the Cavs pay a starter and a 1st to get that backup big when Larry Nance probably does most of what the Cavs could find useful there. If not, the Cavs should look at something like a Dean Wade for Andre Drummond swap depending on how Philadelphia's season goes.

I thought the Cavs wanted Mobley to play more C so there's fewer non-shooters around him?

I don't think the top offense in the league needs to change much offensively other than be consistent at hitting shots in the playoffs.

Defensively, the option to not have to play Mobley against the other team's C in bench units would be useful, particularly against bruiser types. Let him stay the roaming center fielder of the defense rather than take a challenging big assignment just because he's the only big on the floor.
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Re: Two Cavs trades with Jazz and Thunder 

Post#22 » by nolaPELSfan » Thu Jul 17, 2025 9:06 pm

YayBasketball wrote:Me and some Pels fans are dreaming of him being an upgrade missing piece since the GM put them in 'win now' mode, needing to be as good as possible this season to avoid embarrassment of giving up a top pick.

Missi + '27 swap + '28 unprotected would probably be best offer (while having a plan to dump Murray immediately or him or Zion before next season, to have enough room for Kessler's extension). But maybe Ainge can fleece Dumars/Weaver even more. Jazz reset the rookie scale with Missi, keeping the cap clear the next few seasons, while picking up some juicy draft capital. They split Kessler's minutes to Nurkic and more developmental minutes for Filipowski, Hendricks, and Missi.


Dude.. Huh? What Pels fans? I don't even think i'd want to sign Kessler as a free agent. Maybe if he came cheaply. Butwhaa?
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Re: Two Cavs trades with Jazz and Thunder 

Post#23 » by bkohler » Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:41 pm

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bkohler wrote:I’m highly doubtful it’s a ‘that’s it?’ trade for Kessler. I think the smoke there has been teams wanting him not the Jazz shopping him.

I think they’ll do a 5/125 with the first year being front loaded and then last year being higher with the middle years declining. So like 30/20/20/25/30, the Markkanen deal was structured similarly.

Yeah an extension seems like the likely outcome. Filipowski showing out is giving other fans hope that Jazz will move Kessler to make more room for Filipowski. But their skillsets are very different and even complimentary.

Me and some Pels fans are dreaming of him being an upgrade missing piece since the GM put them in 'win now' mode, needing to be as good as possible this season to avoid embarrassment of giving up a top pick.

Missi + '27 swap + '28 unprotected would probably be best offer (while having a plan to dump Murray immediately or him or Zion before next season, to have enough room for Kessler's extension). But maybe Ainge can fleece Dumars/Weaver even more. Jazz reset the rookie scale with Missi, keeping the cap clear the next few seasons, while picking up some juicy draft capital. They split Kessler's minutes to Nurkic and more developmental minutes for Filipowski, Hendricks, and Missi.

I would do that deal in a heartbeat.



I’m pro any deal with NOP right now, I don’t care what it is I’m convinced we’d win the deal handily.
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Re: Two Cavs trades with Jazz and Thunder 

Post#24 » by SkyHook » Thu Jul 17, 2025 11:11 pm

bkohler wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:
YayBasketball wrote:Yeah an extension seems like the likely outcome. Filipowski showing out is giving other fans hope that Jazz will move Kessler to make more room for Filipowski. But their skillsets are very different and even complimentary.

Me and some Pels fans are dreaming of him being an upgrade missing piece since the GM put them in 'win now' mode, needing to be as good as possible this season to avoid embarrassment of giving up a top pick.

Missi + '27 swap + '28 unprotected would probably be best offer (while having a plan to dump Murray immediately or him or Zion before next season, to have enough room for Kessler's extension). But maybe Ainge can fleece Dumars/Weaver even more. Jazz reset the rookie scale with Missi, keeping the cap clear the next few seasons, while picking up some juicy draft capital. They split Kessler's minutes to Nurkic and more developmental minutes for Filipowski, Hendricks, and Missi.

I would do that deal in a heartbeat.



I’m pro any deal with NOP right now, I don’t care what it is I’m convinced we’d win the deal handily.

Unfortunately, I'm not convinced that the Jazz FO is much better than the Pels.
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