Joel: unchained.

[NYSixersFan]

I feel bad for Joel, but we ain't jack squat with him as a 1 or 2 option.

The part about the intern was sad. Not surprising since Scam Hinkie was running things.

is that what a general manager does?

Overseeing the rehab of his players is part of his job.

[Peak Brunson]

Truth is, it's never 100% on the player. While obviously I blamed Embiid and Simmons a lot, it's evident organization matters a lot. I think Embiid would've had a much better career if he was drafted at, say, Heat or Spurs. Especially a guy like Embiid who started basketball very late and it feels he was thrown into the action too soon, asking him to be the franchise player in his first year (2016-2017) when he was never that player in his life pre NBA, it feels the whole thing was so rushed with him.

[Jailblazers7]

I feel bad for Joel, but we ain't jack squat with him as a 1 or 2 option.

The part about the intern was sad. Not surprising since Scam Hinkie was running things.

is that what a general manager does?

Overseeing the rehab of his players is part of his job.

Ownership sets the budget for support functions like training & medical. Sounds like Hinkie was advocating hard for improvements but there’s only so much a GM can do.

[ProcessDoctor]

After thinking about it more, it feels like this will be one last hoorah for Embiid. Either he comes back and plays well/stays healthy, or medically retires. Dude seems exhausted from everything he's experienced and what comes with being an NBA player.

[Tony Franciosa]

It was evident already like 3 years ago, Joel Embuust has always been a loser, but our fans were happy with excuses after excuses, in a way it was the same with Bum Simmons, people only wanted to trade him when his value was at his lowest. Leaning when to cut losses is very important and especially learning to understand bad character.

Scathing analysis worthy of WIP callers.

[Negrodamus]

Bum Simmons is a giveaway of who’s posting.

[mksp]

The absolute worst posters on this board are those that always give players derogatory dumb nicknames.

"Joel Embuust"
"VJ Melton"

Absolute brain-wormed rush limbaugh takes, so dumb and juvenile. Should be immediate bans.

[Ferry Avenue]

Truth is, it's never 100% on the player. While obviously I blamed Embiid and Simmons a lot, it's evident organization matters a lot. I think Embiid would've had a much better career if he was drafted at, say, Heat or Spurs. Especially a guy like Embiid who started basketball very late and it feels he was thrown into the action too soon, asking him to be the franchise player in his first year (2016-2017) when he was never that player in his life pre NBA, it feels the whole thing was so rushed with him.

A big part of the issue with Embiid has always been that the organization tanked to get him (and others), which makes the organziation overvalue the players obtained as part of "the process," and the players involved certainly "feel" that as well. I suspect those aren't the most optimal conditions for player development. A good argument for why losing on purpose to obtain high draft picks is certainly effective from a "simple math" standpoint, but perhaps not from a human factors one.

[Iverson Armband]

Do you guys think this is a passive aggressive trade request from Embiid? I think it might be.

There is no way the organization is happy about this article coming out. And it’s kind of a dick move for him to do it after they just gave him a ridiculous extension he didn’t deserve.

[Negrodamus]

I don’t think ownership cares really all that much.

[Iverson Armband]

I don’t think ownership cares really all that much.

Why wouldn’t they? He basically called everyone incompetent.

[Negrodamus]

I don’t think ownership cares really all that much.

Why wouldn’t they? He basically called everyone incompetent.

I mean, what are the ramifications? He didn't say anyone by name. They're on the hook for what, 3 more years? Josh Harris is probably like "Yea, Hinkie and Colangelo were the ones who screwed all that up!".

[Iverson Armband]

I don’t think ownership cares really all that much.

Why wouldn’t they? He basically called everyone incompetent.

I mean, what are the ramifications? He didn't say anyone by name. They're on the hook for what, 3 more years? Josh Harris is probably like "Yea, Hinkie and Colangelo were the ones who screwed all that up!".

I mean, he said they botched his recovery last year as well, a direct shot at the current regime.

It’s basically Joel just fishing for attention again because he isn’t getting any for playing basketball. The organization is collateral damage for that. There is no doubt the organization wants to trade him right now, but they know they have a distressed asset. Joel knows it too, which is why he’s popping off. He’s no dummy.

[Arsenal]

I don’t think ownership cares really all that much.

Why wouldn’t they? He basically called everyone incompetent.

The little rat couldn’t care less about the Sixers. All he cares about are his beloved Commies.

[MVP1992]

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[Jailblazers7]

Do you guys think this is a passive aggressive trade request from Embiid? I think it might be.

There is no way the organization is happy about this article coming out. And it’s kind of a dick move for him to do it after they just gave him a ridiculous extension he didn’t deserve.

I think he’s indifferent at this point but I’m not sure I see this as a trade request. I think he just wanted it known that he doesn’t feel supported by the organization & plans to control his own recovery this time around.

Either way, I don’t think the team is terribly concerned. Either he comes back and plays or he keeps his distance from the team while they build a culture around Maxey.

[Arsenal]

The article is a big fat nothingburger. Actually gives me confidence he’ll be back, this time taking it slow and steady. If it takes until midseason so be it. We have enough to stay afloat until then, and less games is less chance for another injury.

[Iverson Armband]

Do you guys think this is a passive aggressive trade request from Embiid? I think it might be.

There is no way the organization is happy about this article coming out. And it’s kind of a dick move for him to do it after they just gave him a ridiculous extension he didn’t deserve.

I think he’s indifferent at this point but I’m not sure I see this as a trade request. I think he just wanted it known that he doesn’t feel supported by the organization & plans to control his own recovery this time around.

Either way, I don’t think the team is terribly concerned. Either he comes back and plays or he keeps his distance from the team while they build a culture around Maxey.

You don’t see how Morey and the org could feel slighted by that? That’s a critical function of their job.

I think ownership cares less if this comes out while he’s playing and producing. Right now he’s not good or available enough to be talking like this. Just my opinion.

[Negrodamus]

Do you guys think this is a passive aggressive trade request from Embiid? I think it might be.

There is no way the organization is happy about this article coming out. And it’s kind of a dick move for him to do it after they just gave him a ridiculous extension he didn’t deserve.

I think he’s indifferent at this point but I’m not sure I see this as a trade request. I think he just wanted it known that he doesn’t feel supported by the organization & plans to control his own recovery this time around.

Either way, I don’t think the team is terribly concerned. Either he comes back and plays or he keeps his distance from the team while they build a culture around Maxey.

You don’t see how Morey and the org could feel slighted by that? That’s a critical function of their job.

My guess is that the surgery was to "clean stuff up" and they might have taken a Kawhi type approach to rehab, but there wasn't really any type of intervention via surgery to help the discomfort and everyone knew this. Of all the people in the organization, I think Morey is the least likely to care about being slighted. I think Morey would have happily accepted Harden back even after his China revenge tour.

[Iverson Armband]

I think he’s indifferent at this point but I’m not sure I see this as a trade request. I think he just wanted it known that he doesn’t feel supported by the organization & plans to control his own recovery this time around.

Either way, I don’t think the team is terribly concerned. Either he comes back and plays or he keeps his distance from the team while they build a culture around Maxey.

You don’t see how Morey and the org could feel slighted by that? That’s a critical function of their job.

My guess is that the surgery was to "clean stuff up" and they might have taken a Kawhi type approach to rehab, but there wasn't really any type of intervention via surgery to help the discomfort and everyone knew this. Of all the people in the organization, I think Morey is the least likely to care about being slighted. I think Morey would have happily accepted Harden back even after his China revenge tour.

Possibly. But GMs are still people with pride and somewhat of an ego. I understand Morey is probably more “bottom line” than most, but I think even he draws the line somewhere. Also, Embiid is no longer good or available. That plays a part in how long the leash is.