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Re: Kuminga sign and trade Bulls interest 

Post#321 » by Am2626 » Sat Jul 12, 2025 2:22 am

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Am2626 wrote:What do people think of the trade proposal in this article? Coby White will be a UFA next year and the Bulls may not be able to resign him and would lose him for nothing. Getting 2 first round picks would be very valuable for the Bulls.

GSW: Sign and trade Kuminga and 2 first round picks

Bulls: Trade Coby White and Jalen Smith

https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nba/golden-state-warriors/news/warriors-could-cut-ties-kuminga-acquire-20-ppg-scorer-plus-former-tenth-pick/c463ebbae5c743422ae0fbce


The article says this is from "youtuber blah blah" which already makes me roll my eyes.

The framework of the deal seems the exact opposite of everything we've heard from reliable sources about the situation, like Zach Lowe. The Warriors want at least a 1st round pick for Kuminga, this deal has them giving up 2 picks and getting none in return.

The closest they've got to a deal which they refused was getting Devin Carter a mid 1st in the last draft.
Nothing says the Warriors are interested in trading multiple future 1sts for a below star level shooter (Coby).

And Coby isn't going to be a great asset for them because of the same reasons we are looking to move him, he's either gone in 1 year or getting a massive contract increase. His new contract is likely to be just as big as Kuminga's ($30M+) which is the entire reason they're trading Kuminga.


GSW trade demands are ridiculous. That’s why they aren’t making any traction. The Kuminga situation is holding up their roster building moves so they are going to have to come down on their asking price. The difference between Coby White and Kuminga for GSW is that Coby White better fits their roster. I can see them being able to get him on a better contract as they give him a chance to compete for a championship.
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Re: Kuminga sign and trade Bulls interest 

Post#322 » by jnrjr79 » Sat Jul 12, 2025 4:52 am

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I can't imagine there is any chance at all this is even a real rumor. Sounds like just something a random person made up. This makes no sense for GS.


Yeah definitely. The Warriors could literally just let him walk. He's a FA, they don't need to attach assets to trade him. Especially not for a player of Coby's caliber.


I think it would really be "we don't care about Kuminga and he's a salary matcher", and they'd be paying 2 1sts for Coby/Jalen which isn't entirely insane, but probably not something they'd do.


Yeah, the rationale is GS could really use more shooting and another scorer. If Coby were under control on a reasonable deal, it wouldn’t be nuts, but I can’t see it for one year of a guy who could bolt.
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Re: Kuminga sign and trade Bulls interest 

Post#323 » by Red Larrivee » Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:28 pm

I don't want Kuminga on the Bulls, but it'll be interesting to see how this ends.

I'd say he's an obvious QO candidate, but I don't see his path to putting up numbers there anymore. It seems like he has to get a sign-and-trade done this offseason. It seems like Miami doesn't need to anymore with Norman Powell. Washington traded for Cam Whitmore. And Chicago's interest doesn't make sense unless they can move Pat in the same deal.

To me, it seems like a Sacramento deal is the only "logical" one.
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Post#324 » by Chi town » Sat Jul 12, 2025 3:01 pm

Red Larrivee wrote:I don't want Kuminga on the Bulls, but it'll be interesting to see how this ends.

I'd say he's an obvious QO candidate, but I don't see his path to putting up numbers there anymore. It seems like he has to get a sign-and-trade done this offseason. It seems like Miami doesn't need to anymore with Norman Powell. Washington traded for Cam Whitmore. And Chicago's interest doesn't make sense unless they can move Pat in the same deal.

To me, it seems like a Sacramento deal is the only "logical" one.


Kuminga can’t take QO like you said he won’t get the usage to then get the contract he wants.

Think it will be SAC too
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Re: Kuminga sign and trade Bulls interest 

Post#325 » by kodo » Thu Jul 17, 2025 3:21 pm

Jake Fischer. No real movement reported, but I thought it was interesting that Kuminga's preferred destination is Chicago, I always thought the rumors here were Chicago being interested in him not the other way around.

Heading into Summer League play, Sacramento had seemingly shown the most interest in Kuminga among external suitors. The 22-year-old's camp had also been hopeful, sources say, about a potential sign-and-trade with Chicago, but the Bulls have their own ongoing restricted free agency dance to navigate with Giddey.


I wonder if there's some crazy outcome where we can't come to terms with Giddey, S&T him to another team, and then Kuminga gets S&T to Chicago.
Would be great for the 2026 draft pick though.
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Post#326 » by MrSparkle » Thu Jul 17, 2025 3:32 pm

I personally would find it beyond comical if we S&T’d Giddey for Kuminga, after drafting 2 guys at identical positions (Matas and Noa) and resigning Pat in a league that keeps getting smaller and faster and more skilled (i.e. OKC’s 1-3 rotation). A 2K team with zero passing skills, very horrible handles, shaky 3P shooting, lacking on-ball/PG defenders, and just going all in on low-IQ/average-athleticism tweener length. What can go wrong?

Coby can dribble around every game launching contested jumpers while all these lanky guys watch and crash the glass. Then they’ll try to get theirs in isolation too once Coby decides 6-23 FGs ain’t workin. It’ll be beautiful basketball. Windy City Bulls without the Yuki.
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Re: Kuminga sign and trade Bulls interest 

Post#327 » by NecessaryEvil » Thu Jul 17, 2025 4:07 pm

kodo wrote:Jake Fischer. No real movement reported, but I thought it was interesting that Kuminga's preferred destination is Chicago, I always thought the rumors here were Chicago being interested in him not the other way around.

Heading into Summer League play, Sacramento had seemingly shown the most interest in Kuminga among external suitors. The 22-year-old's camp had also been hopeful, sources say, about a potential sign-and-trade with Chicago, but the Bulls have their own ongoing restricted free agency dance to navigate with Giddey.


I wonder if there's some crazy outcome where we can't come to terms with Giddey, S&T him to another team, and then Kuminga gets S&T to Chicago.
Would be great for the 2026 draft pick though.


I’d like to see Kuminga’s redemption arc in Chicago but not at the expense of Aussie Luka.
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Re: Kuminga sign and trade Bulls interest 

Post#328 » by ghostinthepost1 » Thu Jul 17, 2025 4:14 pm

If Kuminga gets S+T it'll be for pennies on the dollar, GS has zero leverage.
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Post#329 » by Tetlak » Thu Jul 17, 2025 4:17 pm

I can't believe this thread is still going. Kuminga to Chicago was never happening.
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Re: Kuminga sign and trade Bulls interest 

Post#330 » by Red Larrivee » Thu Jul 17, 2025 4:23 pm

KC weeks ago made it sound like that even though the Bulls were interested in trading for him last season, that S&T interest was one-sided and that a deal would be too complex.
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Re: Kuminga sign and trade Bulls interest 

Post#331 » by Hangtime84 » Thu Jul 17, 2025 4:55 pm

I guess we get him in 2026
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If the Bulls do, you would be complaining to much to ever hear it.


NBA fan logic we need to trade one of two best players because (Player X) one needs to shine more.
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Post#332 » by sco » Thu Jul 17, 2025 6:46 pm

Red Larrivee wrote:KC weeks ago made it sound like that even though the Bulls were interested in trading for him last season, that S&T interest was one-sided and that a deal would be too complex.

Yeah, I think that's right. I go hot and cold on Kuminga. He has about as much upside potential as we could hope to find from this type of asset, but I just think he's a terrible fit with Coby and Giddey. We REALLY don't need another below average defender who is looking for shots. I am more focused on restructuring our starting line-up to funnel more shots to Matas after seeing him in SL. I really think giving him as much offensive load as we can this season is important. It's getting to the point that I'd consider using POR 1st to get rid of Vuc (although a buyout makes way more sense...sense that AK lacks).
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Post#333 » by DuckIII » Thu Jul 17, 2025 7:00 pm

kodo wrote:Jake Fischer. No real movement reported, but I thought it was interesting that Kuminga's preferred destination is Chicago, I always thought the rumors here were Chicago being interested in him not the other way around.

Heading into Summer League play, Sacramento had seemingly shown the most interest in Kuminga among external suitors. The 22-year-old's camp had also been hopeful, sources say, about a potential sign-and-trade with Chicago, but the Bulls have their own ongoing restricted free agency dance to navigate with Giddey.


I wonder if there's some crazy outcome where we can't come to terms with Giddey, S&T him to another team, and then Kuminga gets S&T to Chicago.
Would be great for the 2026 draft pick though.


A Bulls roster with Matas, Pat, Noa, Kuminga, Okoro, Huerter, Phillips and Terry is just such an “AK thing” that it would be funny in a masochistic kinda way.
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Re: Kuminga sign and trade Bulls interest 

Post#334 » by MGB8 » Thu Jul 17, 2025 7:26 pm

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kodo wrote:Jake Fischer. No real movement reported, but I thought it was interesting that Kuminga's preferred destination is Chicago, I always thought the rumors here were Chicago being interested in him not the other way around.

Heading into Summer League play, Sacramento had seemingly shown the most interest in Kuminga among external suitors. The 22-year-old's camp had also been hopeful, sources say, about a potential sign-and-trade with Chicago, but the Bulls have their own ongoing restricted free agency dance to navigate with Giddey.


I wonder if there's some crazy outcome where we can't come to terms with Giddey, S&T him to another team, and then Kuminga gets S&T to Chicago.
Would be great for the 2026 draft pick though.


A Bulls roster with Matas, Pat, Noa, Kuminga, Okoro, Huerter, Phillips and Terry is just such an “AK thing” that it would be funny in a masochistic kinda way.


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Re: Kuminga sign and trade Bulls interest 

Post#335 » by Dan Z » Thu Jul 17, 2025 11:40 pm

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kodo wrote:Jake Fischer. No real movement reported, but I thought it was interesting that Kuminga's preferred destination is Chicago, I always thought the rumors here were Chicago being interested in him not the other way around.

Heading into Summer League play, Sacramento had seemingly shown the most interest in Kuminga among external suitors. The 22-year-old's camp had also been hopeful, sources say, about a potential sign-and-trade with Chicago, but the Bulls have their own ongoing restricted free agency dance to navigate with Giddey.


I wonder if there's some crazy outcome where we can't come to terms with Giddey, S&T him to another team, and then Kuminga gets S&T to Chicago.
Would be great for the 2026 draft pick though.


A Bulls roster with Matas, Pat, Noa, Kuminga, Okoro, Huerter, Phillips and Terry is just such an “AK thing” that it would be funny in a masochistic kinda way.


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Re: Kuminga sign and trade Bulls interest 

Post#336 » by Dan Z » Thu Jul 17, 2025 11:43 pm

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kodo wrote:Jake Fischer. No real movement reported, but I thought it was interesting that Kuminga's preferred destination is Chicago, I always thought the rumors here were Chicago being interested in him not the other way around.

Heading into Summer League play, Sacramento had seemingly shown the most interest in Kuminga among external suitors. The 22-year-old's camp had also been hopeful, sources say, about a potential sign-and-trade with Chicago, but the Bulls have their own ongoing restricted free agency dance to navigate with Giddey.


I wonder if there's some crazy outcome where we can't come to terms with Giddey, S&T him to another team, and then Kuminga gets S&T to Chicago.
Would be great for the 2026 draft pick though.


A Bulls roster with Matas, Pat, Noa, Kuminga, Okoro, Huerter, Phillips and Terry is just such an “AK thing” that it would be funny in a masochistic kinda way.


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Re: Kuminga sign and trade Bulls interest 

Post#337 » by Dan Z » Fri Jul 18, 2025 1:18 am

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kodo wrote:Jake Fischer. No real movement reported, but I thought it was interesting that Kuminga's preferred destination is Chicago, I always thought the rumors here were Chicago being interested in him not the other way around.



I wonder if there's some crazy outcome where we can't come to terms with Giddey, S&T him to another team, and then Kuminga gets S&T to Chicago.
Would be great for the 2026 draft pick though.


A Bulls roster with Matas, Pat, Noa, Kuminga, Okoro, Huerter, Phillips and Terry is just such an “AK thing” that it would be funny in a masochistic kinda way.


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Post#338 » by Muzbar » Fri Jul 18, 2025 1:25 am

Dan Z wrote:
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A Bulls roster with Matas, Pat, Noa, Kuminga, Okoro, Huerter, Phillips and Terry is just such an “AK thing” that it would be funny in a masochistic kinda way.


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Re: Kuminga sign and trade Bulls interest 

Post#339 » by ChiTownHero1992 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 12:27 pm

DuckIII wrote:
kodo wrote:Jake Fischer. No real movement reported, but I thought it was interesting that Kuminga's preferred destination is Chicago, I always thought the rumors here were Chicago being interested in him not the other way around.

Heading into Summer League play, Sacramento had seemingly shown the most interest in Kuminga among external suitors. The 22-year-old's camp had also been hopeful, sources say, about a potential sign-and-trade with Chicago, but the Bulls have their own ongoing restricted free agency dance to navigate with Giddey.


I wonder if there's some crazy outcome where we can't come to terms with Giddey, S&T him to another team, and then Kuminga gets S&T to Chicago.
Would be great for the 2026 draft pick though.


A Bulls roster with Matas, Pat, Noa, Kuminga, Okoro, Huerter, Phillips and Terry is just such an “AK thing” that it would be funny in a masochistic kinda way.


AK - "But...but look at the length, and how switchable our mediocre defenders are now!"

I could honestly see AK still being interested in Kuminga but trying to retain Giddey, prodding out a line-up of Giddey, Kuminga, Matas, Noa at some point and being so proud of their length and switchability while we get beat by 40 regularly
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