Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga

whatisacenter · Post #1041 » by **whatisacenter** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:33 pm

TB wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
Nvnervous45 wrote:I want this kuminga saga to be over so we can sign hortford and melton and improve this team.

Jeez I"m glad someone finally said it.

Yup. All avenues seem to have been exhausted. Time to go from zero moves to Kuminga, Horford, Morris, Melton, Seth. A team actually built around Steph/Jimmy/Dray that is much better than what we had last year.

The warriors can sign Horford and Melton today if they want to.

Nvnervous45 · Post #1042 » by **Nvnervous45** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 12:19 am

Am I mistaken but don't the warriors have to find out how much they will offer kuminga (if he doesn't want the QO) or how much money they take back in trade, so they can offer a more appealing contract for meton and hortford. I thought the hold up was the money on all sides.

statsman · Post #1043 » by **statsman** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 12:36 am

Nvnervous45 wrote:Am I mistaken but don't the warriors have to find out how much they will offer kuminga (if he doesn't want the QO) or how much money they take back in trade, so they can offer a more appealing contract for meton and hortford. I thought the hold up was the money on all sides.

If the Warriors lock Horford into the entire TPMLE before Kuminga signs, there is an amount that a team could offer Kuminga in a RFA sheet that the Warriors wouldn't be able to match without going above the 2nd apron.

I guess they could try and jettison someone like Hield or Moody to drop below, but I don't think they want to do that. For the above situation, a front-loaded 3/75 offer sheet would be problematic for the Warriors if the TPMLE has already been spent. I don't think a team has the cap space to do such a maneuver, at least at the moment.

WarriorGM · Post #1044 » by **WarriorGM** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 12:48 am

Going by the conversation so far is it the case then that the decision in front of the Warriors currently is either to sign Horford and Melton right now or risk them going elsewhere while they dither over Kuminga?

Crazy-Canuck · Post #1045 » by **Crazy-Canuck** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 1:14 am

Forget Kuminga, im feeling sorry for Suns fans.

Ship out kd for a horrible contract (Green)
Stretch Beal for another horrible contract (book extension).
Now they want to add a 3rd horrible contract? (Kuminga 25M+)

Move over Charlotte, we have a new team in town.

Old_Blue · Post #1046 » by **Old_Blue** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 1:29 am

Effing Kuminga has become our version of Angelina Jolie. Mired in a dispute from hell, we just can't seem to free ourselves of this biyatch.

cpower · Post #1047 » by **cpower** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 1:51 am

Kuminga is delusional and keeps getting terrible career advice from his agent and close friends.. The worst decision one can make is to overate yourself and getting greedy ...now he might have to play for much less and be out of the league in a few years...

Crazy-Canuck · Post #1048 » by **Crazy-Canuck** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 2:10 am

He should be reading up on Noel and oladipo.

vvoland · Post #1049 » by **vvoland** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 2:15 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Forget Kuminga, im feeling sorry for Suns fans.

Ship out kd for a horrible contract (Green)
Stretch Beal for another horrible contract (book extension).
Now they want to add a 3rd horrible contract? (Kuminga 25M+)

Move over Charlotte, we have a new team in town.

That team was proper f'ed when they traded for beal's no trade clause. It should start getting better soon-ish.

Crazy-Canuck · Post #1050 » by **Crazy-Canuck** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 2:17 am

vvoland wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:Forget Kuminga, im feeling sorry for Suns fans.

Ship out kd for a horrible contract (Green)
Stretch Beal for another horrible contract (book extension).
Now they want to add a 3rd horrible contract? (Kuminga 25M+)

Move over Charlotte, we have a new team in town.

That team was proper f'ed when they traded for beal's no trade clause. It should start getting better soon-ish.

Not with that green contract, book extension, and a possible kuminga extension. They had a get out of jail card by stretching Beal, except they went for the life sentence while close to parole.

bay2hk · Post #1051 » by **bay2hk** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 2:25 am

Force him to sign the QO. We have time. JK only has until 10/1 to sign or he’ll be a RFA again next season

EvanZ · Post #1052 » by **EvanZ** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 2:52 am

bay2hk wrote:Force him to sign the QO. We have time. JK only has until 10/1 to sign or he’ll be a RFA again next season

Well that is the question. Do we have the time.

bay2hk · Post #1053 » by **bay2hk** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 2:57 am

EvanZ wrote:
bay2hk wrote:Force him to sign the QO. We have time. JK only has until 10/1 to sign or he’ll be a RFA again next season

Well that is the question. Do we have the time.

Yup, training camp starts in late September and all the good FAs are gone. Might as well wait if JK doesn’t take whatever our offer is.

Betting Warriors is avoiding going above the 1st apron this year.

Old_Blue · Post #1054 » by **Old_Blue** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:03 am

We're all blaming Kuminga, but the other problem is that the stupid Nets are still something like $20 million under the luxury cap (not to mention almost $5 million under the minimum team salary) and still have an open roster spot. It's an effing Mexican standoff between the Dubs, Kuminga and the Nets.

statsman · Post #1055 » by **statsman** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:10 am

Old_Blue wrote:We're all blaming Kuminga, but the other problem is that the stupid Nets are still something like $20 million under the luxury cap (not to mention almost $5 million under the minimum team salary) and still have an open roster spot. It's an effing Mexican standoff between the Dubs, Kuminga and the Nets.

I am not sure the Nets are still interested, but if they are, they can wait indefinitely. They aren't going to do much this season, with or without Kuminga.

My guess is they'll keep the cap space open and sell to the highest bidder looking to offload a sizable expiring contract this season. Of course, they'll be expecting at least one first round pick for helping out.

statsman · Post #1056 » by **statsman** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:15 am

bay2hk wrote:Betting Warriors is avoiding going above the 1st apron this year.

I would not make that bet. Based on what we've seen and heard from Lacob, he's looking for a big move. Giannis? Even if someone like that is a long-shot, you have to figure the Warriors would need to go well above the 1st apron to make that happen. Idiot ownership even put it out there that they inquired about LeBron. Again!

watch1958 · Post #1057 » by **watch1958** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:23 am

Old_Blue wrote:Effing Kuminga has become our version of Angelina Jolie. Mired in a dispute from hell, we just can't seem to free ourselves of this biyatch.

Does the CBA allow pre-nups?

Nvnervous45 · Post #1058 » by **Nvnervous45** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:38 am

Nets are a freakin bipolar organization. They went from having kyrie, Durant, and deandre jordan on the payroll, to having no payroll. What a mess over there.

EvanZ · Post #1059 » by **EvanZ** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 4:00 am

Old_Blue wrote:We're all blaming Kuminga, but the other problem is that the stupid Nets are still something like $20 million under the luxury cap (not to mention almost $5 million under the minimum team salary) and still have an open roster spot. It's an effing Mexican standoff between the Dubs, Kuminga and the Nets.

If the Nets wanted him they could offer him $20M and GS would most likely match. If they wanted him badly enough they could do a S&T easily. The fact they drafted 5 guys and aren’t stashing any of them tells me all I need to know.

Crazy-Canuck · Post #1060 » by **Crazy-Canuck** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 4:13 am

I think nets are out on kuminga.

Kings? That noise seems to have died down.
Hornets?
Suns?

I think that might be it.