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Re: Summer League 2025, Multi-Game Thread – (Next: Thurs, July 17, 9:00PM) 

Post#1781 » by Dogen » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:09 am

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playa-hater wrote:I'm sorry, but besides HAL does anyone actually think Amari Can be good??


Of course he can be good. This is his first 3 pro games fer cryin' out loud


Really? Well, technically, I can be a powerball winner one day.. Doesn't make it likely..

I say the odds for Amari are similar


What does that even mean? Not a good comparison -- yeah, anyone can buy a lotto ticket.

Amari was the 46th pick in the draft. Chances are... odds are... yes, he ultimately won't pan out in the NBA, like most 46th picks.

But these guys are here primarily to learn how to play their role and the team's system and plays.

Williams might end up as a reserve player in a few years. Nobody expects a savior here. But can he be good? Of course, but it's not gonna be like randomly buying a powerball ticket. It takes time.
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Re: Summer League 2025, Multi-Game Thread – (Next: Thurs, July 17, 9:00PM) 

Post#1782 » by Hal14 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:11 am

Dogen wrote:
playa-hater wrote:I'm sorry, but besides HAL does anyone actually think Amari Can be good??


Of course he can be good. This is his first 3 pro games fer cryin' out loud

And these aren't even real games. They're basically just scrimmages. Do the stats from these games count towards each player's career NBA stats? Of course not. Do these games count in the NBA standings? Of course not.

Have these rookies been coached at all yet by their team's actual head coach? No

Some of ya'll are putting way too much emphasis on these games. Haven't we learned our lesson by now from watching previous summer leagues and seeing how little they matter in the grand scheme of things?
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Post#1783 » by playa-hater » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:13 am

Yes, I know summer league is great for overreaction but here is mine..

I would rather see gonzalez get rotation minutes ova rico..

Sue me
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Re: Summer League 2025, Multi-Game Thread – (Next: Thurs, July 17, 9:00PM) 

Post#1784 » by brackdan70 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:14 am

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playa-hater wrote:I'm sorry, but besides HAL does anyone actually think Amari Can be good??

Me.

This guy too

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Me also.
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Post#1785 » by Hal14 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:16 am

playa-hater wrote:Yes, I know summer league is great for overreaction but here is mine..

I would rather see gonzalez get rotation minutes ova rico..

Sue me

I agree with you there
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Re: Summer League 2025, Multi-Game Thread – (Next: Thurs, July 17, 9:00PM) 

Post#1786 » by playa-hater » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:16 am

Hal14 wrote:
Dogen wrote:
playa-hater wrote:I'm sorry, but besides HAL does anyone actually think Amari Can be good??


Of course he can be good. This is his first 3 pro games fer cryin' out loud

And these aren't even real games. They're basically just scrimmages. Do the stats from these games count towards each player's career NBA stats? Of course not. Do these games count in the NBA standings? Of course not.

Have these rookies been coached at all yet by their team's actual head coach? No

Some of ya'll are putting way too much emphasis on these games. Haven't we learned our lesson by now from watching previous summer leagues and seeing how little they matter in the grand scheme of things?


Yes but here is why I disagree.. You can play bad and still show some positive signs. A williams has shown nothing zero. He shows no tenacity, no timing, no willing to get A. Rebound, he hasn't shown good hands. He has no explosiveness.. He shows he's not a good finisher.. Dribbling, a little bit and some passing will not be enough... Also hasn't shown any scoring ability. He shoots the ball on my very low position.. and all of that. We are talking about a 5 year college player. Not some nineteen year old.

If you or anyone want to believe that is your right... I'm in the you have to show me something.. Until then I just do not believe.
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Post#1787 » by NotAKnicksFan » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:16 am

Thoughts….

Bronny James is so so bad

Baylor schierman sucks, should be waived

Walsh is ok

Hugo plays hard but is soft right now

Amari isnt good

Shulga sucks

Kenny lofton china league mvp could be our backup point power fwd who cant play defense and can hit 3s and score and pass.
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Post#1788 » by brackdan70 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:16 am

Walsh and Hugo looking strong imo.
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Re: Summer League 2025, Multi-Game Thread – (Next: Thurs, July 17, 9:00PM) 

Post#1789 » by Dogen » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:18 am

Hal14 wrote:
Dogen wrote:
playa-hater wrote:I'm sorry, but besides HAL does anyone actually think Amari Can be good??


Of course he can be good. This is his first 3 pro games fer cryin' out loud

And these aren't even real games. They're basically just scrimmages. Do the stats from these games count towards each player's career NBA stats? Of course not. Do these games count in the NBA standings? Of course not.

Have these rookies been coached at all yet by their team's actual head coach? No

Some of ya'll are putting way too much emphasis on these games. Haven't we learned our lesson by now from watching previous summer leagues and seeing how little they matter in the grand scheme of things?


Exactly. The agonizing end of the season and trades have gotten us all walking the plank.

The team isn;t asking Amari to go out there in summer league and be Hakeem. It's probably more like, "Hey Amari, we want you to work on these three things. Don't try to force it, we've got all camp and more time up in Maine."

Some of this attitude lately. It's like investing in a stock and it goes down the next day and you just panic sell... cuz it "sucks". That's not a good strategy (unless you're a day trader :wink: )
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Post#1790 » by Celts17Pride » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:19 am

Honestly, I got absolutely nothing from summer league that I didn't already think I knew heading into summer league except that Charles Bassey belongs on a NBA team somewhere.
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Post#1791 » by Dogen » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:21 am

Hal14 wrote:
playa-hater wrote:Yes, I know summer league is great for overreaction but here is mine..

I would rather see gonzalez get rotation minutes ova rico..

Sue me

I agree with you there


Rico, this summer's Walsh from last summer. I hope he can bounce back. Baylor sure isn't shy about taking the next shot after 5 misses.

Hugo has some composure, seems mature for his age and may move right on in to that rotation.
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Post#1792 » by NotAKnicksFan » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:22 am

Bronny doesnt belong in the NBA

Bassey certainly does, hopefully on celtics

Cut the bait on schierman and shulga , amari

Sign bassey , loften jr , keep walsh
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Post#1793 » by Red2 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:23 am

Brad has yet to draft a good player
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Post#1794 » by Fierce1 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:25 am

Red2 wrote:Brad has yet to draft a good player

Hugo could be the first.
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Post#1795 » by redslastlaugh » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:33 am

Obviously, several players on our summer league team could turn into good players, so Im not closing the door on any of our guys being good

But, it is disappointing and confusing. For as good as Brad Stevens is as a basketball thinker, team builder, and at drawing up plays, he doesn't seem to be capable of understanding the draft, in terms of visualizing a players development curve and as far as assessing the available guys and picking the player with NBA talent, even if that talent may not be a perfect scheme match in Mazzulla ball but "just taking the asset" ...

Just having 2 or 3 promising young players on their rookie contracts, makes everything about the job (trades, salary cap) so much easier on a GM.

Why isn't Brad Stevens better at it? Or even why doesn't the draft even seem to be a priority. Huge mystery honestly. Every successful GM in NBA modern era has a signature draft pick or deal or bold draft day move, except Brad. who knows?

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Post#1796 » by Dogen » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:37 am

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Hal14 wrote:
Dogen wrote:
Of course he can be good. This is his first 3 pro games fer cryin' out loud

And these aren't even real games. They're basically just scrimmages. Do the stats from these games count towards each player's career NBA stats? Of course not. Do these games count in the NBA standings? Of course not.

Have these rookies been coached at all yet by their team's actual head coach? No

Some of ya'll are putting way too much emphasis on these games. Haven't we learned our lesson by now from watching previous summer leagues and seeing how little they matter in the grand scheme of things?


Yes but here is why I disagree.. You can play bad and still show some positive signs. A williams has shown nothing zero. He shows no tenacity, no timing, no willing to get A. Rebound, he hasn't shown good hands. He has no explosiveness.. He shows he's not a good finisher.. Dribbling, a little bit and some passing will not be enough... Also hasn't shown any scoring ability. He shoots the ball on my very low position.. and all of that. We are talking about a 5 year college player. Not some nineteen year old.

If you or anyone want to believe that is your right... I'm in the you have to show me something.. Until then I just do not believe.


Well, as the saying goes, Robert Parrish is not walking through that door. Williams is going to have a low NBA salary, and be playing up in Maine on a 2 Way.

He's on the Davison/Peterson/Norris track. Heck, the Steward track even. DJ Steward is on the Lakers now, still trying to make it in the league. If you don't believe that a player can develop, that is also your prerogative, but NBA teams have to keep mining the potential talent to stay competitive.

Amari wasn't my pick either, frankly, but the pick is done and we can't go back. The team is not going to unceremoniously dump a player they drafted a few weeks ago. Who does that?

There are examples of summer league heroes that don't work out in regular NBA, and also players who are quiet in summer league but eventually forge a respectable role in the NBA.
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Post#1797 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:43 am

When June 25th comes around,
that's Bad Brad's time to shine...
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Post#1798 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:56 am

First off it was awful seeing so many guys get hurt, I wish them a speedy recovery.

As usual a few scattered thoughts on the actual game;
It was nice to finally see Gonzalez's cutting in this one. Good to see him make a couple threes too.
Scheierman's game really isn't a good fit for the summer league environment. He'll pop more with better players and structure around him.
Every time I think I'm out on Jordan Walsh, he does something to pull me back in. But my patience is wearing thin.
Amari Williams just isn't an NBA level screener or finisher right now and I'm concerned at how easily guys seem to be able to finish through his chest.
Shulga did a great job dishing out assists in transitions but he'll have to make some shots eventually.
I wouldn't mind having Wong and Brown stick around in Maine.
Surprised the end of bench guys didn't get more burn during this summer league.
The nine minutes where the LAkers couldn't score were very fun.
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Post#1799 » by 31to6 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 4:04 am

Biggest stock up of SL is obviously Bassey
Walsh and Hugo also represented their abilities well
Baylor shoots like a guy trying to win his college tuition during a commercial break
Shulga was a wasted pick and they shouldn’t use a 2 way on him
I was ready to love Amari but he hasn’t given me much to get excited about yet. Obviously worth a 2 way though to see if he can develop
Norris has a great frame and so little game, but keep him on a two way
I’d be down for tanking with Lofton as our starting PF this season. I watched Marty Conlon I can watch this
Wong, Bridges, and Brown all played hard — nice job and please play in Maine if you want to
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Re: Summer League 2025, Multi-Game Thread – (Next Game: TBD) 

Post#1800 » by doogie_hauser » Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:11 am

playa-hater wrote:Yes, I know summer league is great for overreaction but here is mine..

I would rather see gonzalez get rotation minutes ova rico..

Sue me


Not at all.

These mature age Euro Studs are ready made NBA players. Gonzalez will spend a significant time at The G League obviously but i definitely would love to see him getting minutes in the regular season

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