Collin Murray-Boyles Thread

dballislife · Post #81 » by **dballislife** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 4:57 am

i give it 10 games or so it wont be long until hes our first big off bench, and if poeltl or barnes is out, he should be the one starting

HumbleRen · Post #82 » by **HumbleRen** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:01 am

Just wait until he gets into NBA shape.

tecumseh18 · Post #83 » by **tecumseh18** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:03 am

TimeForChange wrote:Props to Bobby for drafting this kid

Bobby is where he is because he's a CBA expert. Masai started as a scout. Masai insisted on sticking around until the draft, and made the initial call to CMB. Behind Masai of course is the highly respected Dan Tolzman as head of scouting.

So why, oh why, would you give credit to Bobby for this, or any draft? Please explain your reasoning.

Clay Davis · Post #84 » by **Clay Davis** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:07 am

tecumseh18 wrote:
TimeForChange wrote:Props to Bobby for drafting this kid

Bobby is where he is because he's a CBA expert. Masai started as a scout. Masai insisted on sticking around until the draft, and made the initial call to CMB. Behind Masai of course is the highly respected Dan Tolzman as head of scouting.

So why, oh why, would you give credit to Bobby for this, or any draft? Please explain your reasoning.

An NBA player's agent told me that Bobby makes the final decisions. Masai's responsibility is managing relationships. Behold... this is the rizz of the NBA player's agent, mighty and frightening in its aspect! Many claim to understand it, but few can withstand its... power!!

disoblige · Post #85 » by **disoblige** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:08 am

TimeForChange wrote:Props to Bobby for drafting this kid

Bobby + Scouts + Masai

Son Goku 25 · Post #86 » by **Son Goku 25** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:10 am

He has that veteran build already. Seems like a really smart player who knows how to use his angles and body to full adv. Just worried about how he'll fit in with Yak and Scottie at least in the near future.

tecumseh18 · Post #87 » by **tecumseh18** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:12 am

Clay Davis wrote:
tecumseh18 wrote:
TimeForChange wrote:Props to Bobby for drafting this kid

Bobby is where he is because he's a CBA expert. Masai started as a scout. Masai insisted on sticking around until the draft, and made the initial call to CMB. Behind Masai of course is the highly respected Dan Tolzman as head of scouting.

So why, oh why, would you give credit to Bobby for this, or any draft? Please explain your reasoning.

An NBA player's agent told me that Bobby makes the final decisions. Masai's responsibility is managing relationships. Behold... this is the rizz of the NBA player's agent, mighty and frightening in its aspect! Many claim to understand it, but few can withstand its... power!!

I'm suggesting that your agent acquaintance was BSing you. We already know that Masai took the lead in trading Pascal (Bobby wanted to extend him). Masai took the lead trading for Ingram against internal resistance.

No way, NO WAY, MLSE would have given Masai $13-15 mill/yr + $60 mill in profit sharing just to "manage relationships". No way, Jose.

Harcore Fenton Mun · Post #88 » by **Harcore Fenton Mun** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:13 am

Didn't they try to trade the pick? Some times it's better to be lucky.

Clay Davis · Post #89 » by **Clay Davis** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:14 am

tecumseh18 wrote:
Clay Davis wrote:
tecumseh18 wrote:
Bobby is where he is because he's a CBA expert. Masai started as a scout. Masai insisted on sticking around until the draft, and made the initial call to CMB. Behind Masai of course is the highly respected Dan Tolzman as head of scouting.

So why, oh why, would you give credit to Bobby for this, or any draft? Please explain your reasoning.

An NBA player's agent told me that Bobby makes the final decisions. Masai's responsibility is managing relationships. Behold... this is the rizz of the NBA player's agent, mighty and frightening in its aspect! Many claim to understand it, but few can withstand its... power!!

I'm suggesting that your agent acquaintance was BSing you. We already know that Masai took the lead in trading Pascal (Bobby wanted to extend him). Masai took the lead trading for Ingram against internal resistance.

No way, NO WAY, MLSE would have given Masai $13-15 mill/yr + $60 mill in profit sharing just to "manage relationships". No way, Jose.

Why would a guy I met only once and whose name I don't even recall ever BS me? Is my rizz... that weak...????

Los_29 · Post #90 » by **Los_29** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:19 am

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:Didn't they try to trade the pick? Some times it's better to be lucky.

Pelicans wanted it but they said no.

Harcore Fenton Mun · Post #91 » by **Harcore Fenton Mun** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:30 am

Los_29 wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:Didn't they try to trade the pick? Some times it's better to be lucky.

Pelicans wanted it but they said no.

I know RJ was in play, but that pick sure seemed live too. Masai even said it was "top seven".

XTC · Post #92 » by **XTC** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:36 am

Im happy Raps fans are finally coming around to the pick. I feel like people heard he didnt have a jumper, he was a inside scorer, and automatically made the assumption he was a defensive specialist who operated as an undersized center.

The SEC is considered the strongest conference in college basketball... CMB dominated as a freshman, and did even better as a sophomore, while being on an absolutely awful team. His efficiency while being on an awful team wasn't just good, it was elite, and all the analytics pointed towards this guy being one of the best players in college basketball as a 19 year old. On South Carolina he was #1 in points, rebounds, steals, and blocks while being #2 in assists, there was only 1 other player on that roster who had a PER above 15, and a TS above 55 percent. CMB did everything for that team on elite efficiency, while facing double teams every single night, and then you add in that he was probably the best defensive player in college basketball... his impact was that of a superstar.

This was a guy who was an elite slasher, showed elite IQ, amazing footwork (offensively & defensively), some of the best hands I've ever seen on a prospect, and elite processing on both ends. CMB is a very good athlete, he's fast, strong, and he has a super quick first step. His potential as a scorer is underrated, infact his potential as a basketball player is underrated. This isnt a guy who is going to be at a defensive energy big, who can score from inside... He legitimately has two way allstar potential, and I honestly believe in him and his abilities.

Los_29 · Post #93 » by **Los_29** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:43 am

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:Didn't they try to trade the pick? Some times it's better to be lucky.

Pelicans wanted it but they said no.

I know RJ was in play, but that pick sure seemed live too. Masai even said it was "top seven".

Every pick is in play. Raptors weren’t actively trying to trade it. In fact they actually turned down a chance to trade it.

Harcore Fenton Mun · Post #94 » by **Harcore Fenton Mun** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:46 am

Los_29 wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Pelicans wanted it but they said no.

I know RJ was in play, but that pick sure seemed live too. Masai even said it was "top seven".

Every pick is in play. Raptors weren’t actively trying to trade it. In fact they actually turned down a chance to trade it.

It's probably in play with White or Holiday if those turn out to be true.

Los_29 · Post #95 » by **Los_29** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:51 am

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:I know RJ was in play, but that pick sure seemed live too. Masai even said it was "top seven".

Every pick is in play. Raptors weren’t actively trying to trade it. In fact they actually turned down a chance to trade it.

It's probably in play with White or Holiday if those turn out to be true.

Possibly, but you got nothing. Only thing we do know is they turned down trading the pick.

Harcore Fenton Mun · Post #96 » by **Harcore Fenton Mun** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:52 am

Los_29 wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Every pick is in play. Raptors weren’t actively trying to trade it. In fact they actually turned down a chance to trade it.

It's probably in play with White or Holiday if those turn out to be true.

Possibly, but you got nothing. Only thing we do know is they turned down trading the pick.

They had the best odds for Giannis at one point.

Los_29 · Post #97 » by **Los_29** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 6:10 am

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:It's probably in play with White or Holiday if those turn out to be true.

Possibly, but you got nothing. Only thing we do know is they turned down trading the pick.

They had the best odds for Giannis at one point.

That’s great. Not sure where you’re going with this. Still not proving anything. lol.

Appostis · Post #98 » by **Appostis** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:08 am

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:Didn't they try to trade the pick? Some times it's better to be lucky.

It was rumored they were..

Grain of salt.

RomaniaLuvTR · Post #99 » by **RomaniaLuvTR** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:49 am

https://www.si.com/nba/raptors/report-celtics-turned-down-toronto-raptors-rj-barrett-offer-for-jrue-holiday if Masai really offered this I am glad he is gone

Los_29 · Post #100 » by **Los_29** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:24 am

RomaniaLuvTR wrote:https://www.si.com/nba/raptors/report-celtics-turned-down-toronto-raptors-rj-barrett-offer-for-jrue-holiday if Masai really offered this I am glad he is gone

Lol Jake Fischer. If Masai actually offered that, RJ would be in Boston right now. Jrue has 3 years left on his deal and makes nearly 40 million a year. Boston traded Jrue for Simons who they are already trying to trade.