The Official 2025 Offseason Thread #4 Free Agency Opens!

[Ghost of Kleine]

We need a starting point guard badly so the whole "point book" fiasco doesn't have to be futilely repeated yet again. And it just so happens that the wizards are in need of a center and more vet depth with interest in becoming more competitive now.

I'm once again looking at an O'neale/ Richards/ CLE 27' 1st for Smart/ PHX 26' 2nd/DEN 28' 2nd. Marcus Smart is the perfect (22 million expiring contract) defensive/ playmaking guard that would ideally compliment Booker and allow him to play at his natural position as SG.

Smart can also mentor J Green defensively and our other young guys too. And then we can either let him expire for more cap flexibility, or bring him back on a cheaper contract as a starting stopgap option.

I'd try hard to turn that 27' 1st into another 2nd in the loaded 26' draft. Because the 27' draft is looking very, very weak in high end talent overall.

Green and Book are the starting guards. Gillispie and Allen are the backups. I could see Brea being moved from a two-way to a regular contract. Got rid of a guard redundancy with Beal ... don't need to create another problem adding Smart.

That might he the case for now, but that doesn't make it the right decision or the most logical either. Both Booker and J Green are scoring oriented shooting guards. Sure Booker has masqueraded as "Point Book" but that's not his natural position, and honestly a disservice to Booker's elite scoring talent and to our team's positional balance.

And Smart isn't redundant at all because he would offer defensive versatility and playmaking that neither Booker or Green are strong/ good at, as both are again offensive oriented Shooting Guards with weak to slightly passable defense.

Marcus Smart is a very good defensive guard and a very solid starting caliber playmaker. Having played for a championship caliber team in the Celtics. He's a savvy vet and most importantly, also a 22 million expiring contract that could help us stay below the tax aprons as he expires.

He's defensive oriented, wherein Book and J Green are scoring oriented. Thusly he's in no way redundant at all for our needs. He's the perfect defensive playmaking compliment to either Booker and/or J Green.

[lilfishi22]

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You know that point you get where you are so just over it, so you just laugh because it just cant get more dumb or worse. Ishbia is so bad, im just at the point i just laugh. His stupidity and ignorance is on the next level and im over it so im just gonna go straight to

Problem with Ishbia isn't what he says. It's the execution. Opening up resources to improve on a good thing is what you want but does that mean trading half the starters for one guy? Does it mean trading the PG who led the team to the Finals for a really expensive player that didn't end up being a fit for the team? Does it mean then locking at 15% of the cap for half a decade?

[SkyBill40]

Giddey ALL DAY over Kuminga.

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[KdoubleDees23]

Giddey ALL DAY over Kuminga.

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I actually would love to get Giddey

[Sunsdeuce]

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You know that point you get where you are so just over it, so you just laugh because it just cant get more dumb or worse. Ishbia is so bad, im just at the point i just laugh. His stupidity and ignorance is on the next level and im over it so im just gonna go straight to

Problem with Ishbia isn't what he says. It's the execution. Opening up resources to improve on a good thing is what you want but does that mean trading half the starters for one guy? Does it mean trading the PG who led the team to the Finals for a really expensive player that didn't end up being a fit for the team? Does it mean then locking at 15% of the cap for half a decade?

Translation: actions >>> words. Totally agree

[sunsbg]

A lot of people expected Booker will have a similar career path to Lillard's. Now Dame will get 70M/y for rehabbing which matches Book's extension.

[lilfishi22]

Giddey ALL DAY over Kuminga.

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I actually would love to get Giddey

Unfortunate but I fully expect Chicago and Giddey to come to terms. Giddey on this team would make so much sense though

Green
Book
Giddey
PF
Williams

[SkyBill40]

Giddey ALL DAY over Kuminga.

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I actually would love to get Giddey

Unfortunate but I fully expect Chicago and Giddey to come to terms. Giddey on this team would make so much sense though

Green
Book
Giddey
PF
Williams

I wish they'd not gotten into bed so quickly with Green. I'd rather see they move him for other pieces. We need a PG so very badly and Green isn't it. While Booker did okay, it was easy to trap him and force bad habits which led to turnovers. I'd rather we not go down that road again. Why can't we just have nice things?

[Sunsdeuce]

I actually would love to get Giddey

Unfortunate but I fully expect Chicago and Giddey to come to terms. Giddey on this team would make so much sense though

Green
Book
Giddey
PF
Williams

I wish they'd not gotten into bed so quickly with Green. I'd rather see they move him for other pieces. We need a PG so very badly and Green isn't it. While Booker did okay, it was easy to trap him and force bad habits which led to turnovers. I'd rather we not go down that road again. Why can't we just have nice things?

Sometimes you get beer googles during the party and the next day you realized what you did.

[Mr Puddles]

I actually would love to get Giddey

Unfortunate but I fully expect Chicago and Giddey to come to terms. Giddey on this team would make so much sense though

Green
Book
Giddey
PF
Williams

I wish they'd not gotten into bed so quickly with Green. I'd rather see they move him for other pieces. We need a PG so very badly and Green isn't it. While Booker did okay, it was easy to trap him and force bad habits which led to turnovers. I'd rather we not go down that road again. Why can't we just have nice things?

If only the wolves trade (featured on the RealGM front page: Gobert, Donte, Shannon, #17) would have gone down. After buying out Beal, we could have potentially landed Giddey for Grayson + Allen and the draft capital we used on Mark Williams.

Giddey / Gillespy
Booker / Donte / Shannon / Brea
Dunn / #17
Hayes-Davis / Fleming
Gobert / Richards / Oso

Would have liked that team a lot better (although a starting PF would be nice)

[Saberestar]

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I like everything that he says and it’s pretty clear that aren't just words...he is doing it already.

He understands that we tried and it didn't work for us so we are gonna try a different route to be a championship team. More youth, more hustle, more athleticism and more passion for the game.

[Saberestar]

I actually would love to get Giddey

Unfortunate but I fully expect Chicago and Giddey to come to terms. Giddey on this team would make so much sense though

Green
Book
Giddey
PF
Williams

I wish they'd not gotten into bed so quickly with Green. I'd rather see they move him for other pieces. We need a PG so very badly and Green isn't it. While Booker did okay, it was easy to trap him and force bad habits which led to turnovers. I'd rather we not go down that road again. Why can't we just have nice things?

How many good starting PGs are in the league? You saw how we played with Tyus Jones and Monte Morris. Neither were good enough to deserve an starting spot and their small size/bad defense was a big problem for the team.

There are multiple successful teams without a clear cut starting PG.

[Frank Lee]

Matty RahRah sparking the biggest ‘NoShttt?’ in recent history.

The less I see and hear him the better.

[KdoubleDees23]

I actually would love to get Giddey

Unfortunate but I fully expect Chicago and Giddey to come to terms. Giddey on this team would make so much sense though

Green
Book
Giddey
PF
Williams

I wish they'd not gotten into bed so quickly with Green. I'd rather see they move him for other pieces. We need a PG so very badly and Green isn't it. While Booker did okay, it was easy to trap him and force bad habits which led to turnovers. I'd rather we not go down that road again. Why can't we just have nice things?

Green is our future. I actually like green. He can play PG/SG and dude is athletic and hustles. He is only 23 years old. This is going to be a fun season. I don't think we would have got the haul you think for Green and had more gaps. Now we have 2 scoring guards, and if we can plug in a Giddy type of player, we would be set.

[KdoubleDees23]

Unfortunate but I fully expect Chicago and Giddey to come to terms. Giddey on this team would make so much sense though

Green
Book
Giddey
PF
Williams

I wish they'd not gotten into bed so quickly with Green. I'd rather see they move him for other pieces. We need a PG so very badly and Green isn't it. While Booker did okay, it was easy to trap him and force bad habits which led to turnovers. I'd rather we not go down that road again. Why can't we just have nice things?

If only the wolves trade (featured on the RealGM front page: Gobert, Donte, Shannon, #17) would have gone down. After buying out Beal, we could have potentially landed Giddey for Grayson + Allen and the draft capital we used on Mark Williams.

Giddey / Gillespy
Booker / Donte / Shannon / Brea
Dunn / #17
Hayes-Davis / Fleming
Gobert / Richards / Oso

Would have liked that team a lot better (although a starting PF would be nice)

Get Giddy somehow and I like the team we have better than the one you have.

Green / Gillespie
Booker / Brea
Giddy / Dunn
Brooks / Hayes Davis / Fleming
Williams / Richards / Maluach

That team above beats your team in 5

[Calvin Klein]

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[Frank Lee]

……
Green is our future. I actually like green. He can play PG/SG and dude is athletic and hustles. He is only 23 years old. This is going to be a fun season. I don't think we would have got the haul you think for Green and had more gaps. Now we have 2 scoring guards, and if we can plug in a Giddy type of player, we would be set.

Agreed…Have to at least see how it all works for 1/2 season… there should be no rush to do much else for a few months. We have cap space, some tradable players, and can absorb $$ with the MLE (I will remind yall that can be used like a trade exception now).

Just sit back and let this all unfold. More moves to come for sure… but it doesn’t need to be now.

[King4Day]

Grayson Allen, and a future 1st, and 2 seconds for Collin Sexton. Make it happen

Suns have no tradeable 1sts. Given they traded Nurk for Sexton, I wouldn't be comfortable at all giving up any significant assets in a deal for him.

[KdoubleDees23]

Grayson Allen, and a future 1st, and 2 seconds for Collin Sexton. Make it happen

Suns have no tradeable 1sts. Given they traded Nurk for Sexton, I wouldn't be comfortable at all giving up any significant assets in a deal for him.

Why not? Sexton is a good PG! On a good contract

[Fo-Real]

For everyone who keeps screaming for a starting Pg, you have to accept for now that the starting backcourt is Booker and Green. I think Green will be the main ball handler, maybe a 60/40 split. I would much rather see Booker moonlight at pg over watching him start completely out of place at Sf.