Shams: Damian Lillard Returning to the Blazers on a 3-yr/$42M Deal

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Re: BREAKING: Shams: Damian Lillard Returning to the Blazers on a 3-yr/$42M Deal 

Post#201 » by monopoman » Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:27 am

Johnny Tomala wrote:Shame that he got traded from Trail Blazers. He should have just stay there his whole career and be like Reggie Miller - no title but whole career on one team. His trade to Bucks was stupid and unnecessary, I never believed he would win a title there.


You act like the Blazers made the decision on that, Dame asked for the trade the Blazers fulfilled that request. It also worked out very well for the Blazers as a team, we still have many assets not fully realized from that trade.
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Post#202 » by Yin Porzingod » Fri Jul 18, 2025 6:08 am

Scoot under the tutelage of Lillard :devil:
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Re: BREAKING: Shams: Damian Lillard Returning to the Blazers on a 3-yr/$42M Deal 

Post#203 » by gavran » Fri Jul 18, 2025 6:16 am

Why would Portland do this?
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Post#204 » by LakersLegacy » Fri Jul 18, 2025 6:20 am

Mamba Mentality wrote:Now trade for McCollum. I'm all for the nostalgia.

His value is lower now
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Post#205 » by Sane » Fri Jul 18, 2025 6:50 am

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Sane wrote:I would be so pissed if I were Scoot haha poor guy this means he's guaranteed not to start next season regardless of how he does this season.


As much as I'm loving the storyline current, I think the Blazers have done Scoot dirty from a development standpoint.

The Blazers should have given Scoot the Cade treatment that the Pistons did. Just **** throw him to the deep end and see what he can do. The Blazers pissed away 2 seasons of development on Scoot... full... ****... stop.

They've now given Scoot the kind of mentorship I've NEVER seen a team give anyone. I almost feel that this might be the most "we're throwing everything at you" roster I've ever seen for a young player. Like... what rookie has had as their mentors... Billups, Holiday and Lillard. If you can't figure it out with that, learn Chinese from Yang, cause that's where you're going.

If by January Scoot isn't showing he's a legit NBA player, he needs to go.

Even Fultz, Fox or Hali didn't get this kind of "we're throwing it ALL at you" treatment.


Yeah you can't de-incentivize the best case scenario for this coming season and also expect the best case scenario. You should expect about 20% less than the ideal realistic scenario.

This kid showed up raw. His first season was basically a college season. This last season he had a good season off the bench in rotation minutes. The coming season should be when he starts and - like Cade - gets surrounded by 4 players that suit his game. That means 3 shooters, a lob threat and 20-ish games to get adjusted.

Right now the way they've set it up, if he has a great season he's still going to the bench the following season. Lillard won't play off ball and Scoot's game is on-ball. Ask anyone who manages any sort of team anywhere in the world - when the best case scenario does not contain a positive feedback loop, you're leaching from the player's natural internal motivation.

In fact the best case scenario on a personal level for Scoot is to get traded now. That's a conflict he will battle with. That's something his agent will bring up, seeping energy from him. The best thing selfishly for his career is to play so poorly that they move him before extending him. Then lots of teams can afford him and he can slightly influence his way to a better situation where he can get a fresh start.

Just really poor management all around imo. The Blazers do not need Lillard. If they wanted him back, they should've waited another year or two when he can most likely be had for the minimum and wants to retire at home. That would have been a nice reunion that's good for everyone. This situation they've created right now imo doesn't have a clear philosophy and culture. The young guys will be confused and territorial. The old guys will blame the young guys. Reminds me of the Raptors a few seasons ago.
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Re: Shams: Dame Lillard Returning to the Blazers on a 3-yr/$42M Deal 

Post#206 » by davidfr94 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:19 am

Yank3525 wrote:Good for him!

There are a lot of ringless all-time great players (ex. Westbrook, AI etc.) who's legacies would be better off if they had just stayed with their original teams. Rings are important, but him winning a ring as some role player on a contender wasn't going to do anything for his legacy. Like how many people care about the ring Gary Payton won in Miami?

Get healthy, Dame and finish your HOF career on a high note.
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Post#207 » by DusterBuster » Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:37 am

Yin Porzingod wrote:Scoot under the tutelage of Lillard :devil:


Lillard and Holiday... Scoot either is gonna bust out spectacularly or gonna go into year 4 as a monster... there's no real other option.
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Post#208 » by DusterBuster » Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:38 am

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Yank3525 wrote:Good for him!

There are a lot of ringless all-time great players (ex. Westbrook, AI etc.) who's legacies would be better off if they had just stayed with their original teams. Rings are important, but him winning a ring as some role player on a contender wasn't going to do anything for his legacy. Like how many people care about the ring Gary Payton won in Miami?

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Re: BREAKING: Shams: Dame Lillard Returning to the Blazers on a 3-yr/$42M Deal 

Post#209 » by DusterBuster » Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:39 am

LakersLegacy wrote:
Mamba Mentality wrote:Now trade for McCollum. I'm all for the nostalgia.

His value is lower now


Yeah, dont trade for CJ, wait til the Wiz buy him out lol
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Post#210 » by ImmortalD24 » Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:11 am

Back to Lillard doesn't have enough help. Woulda could shoulda. Theoretical champion. Awesome.


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Post#211 » by DusterBuster » Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:18 am

Did the mid-season Tourney scratch his title itch?
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Post#212 » by DusterBuster » Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:20 am

ImmortalD24 wrote:Back to Lillard doesn't have enough help. Woulda could shoulda. Theoretical champion. Awesome.


Kevin Love to the Timberwolves for the MLE.. put up that banner.


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Post#213 » by DusterBuster » Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:35 am

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Pattycakes wrote:
Green89 wrote:Might be the dumbest career arc I've ever seen in sports.

Only a lame would think this was anything but legendary



Let's meet somewhere in the middle.


I'm kind of here with it.

He should have never asked out to begin with...

But the team sent him to a spot they thought would be perfect... which it would have been without injuries...

He gets stretch waived on a super max deal thats going to hinder a team for half a decade (but Turner is solid?)

Then he signs a MLE deal with the team he never wanted to ask out for...

It's stupid and legendary... Legendarily stupid? I guess we'll see...
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Post#214 » by doogie_hauser » Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:48 am

Yeah great decision.

Hope this move kick starts the struggling Blazers with some positive energy and momentum going into next season despite Dame not available next season.
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Post#215 » by doogie_hauser » Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:54 am

Despite the contract which is a bit risky, I am pretty sure most Blazers fans are much happier with Dame coming home and retiring as a Blazer rather than ring chase at Miami or worse the Lakers.

Yes it's an romantic move but honestly Portland had a really weird and controversial draft and hopefully Dame coming home does give long suffering Portland fans a bit of a shot in the arm.
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Post#216 » by phanman » Fri Jul 18, 2025 10:30 am

Johnny Tomala wrote:Shame that he got traded from Trail Blazers. He should have just stay there his whole career and be like Reggie Miller - no title but whole career on one team. His trade to Bucks was stupid and unnecessary, I never believed he would win a title there.


DusterBuster wrote:
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Pattycakes wrote:Only a lame would think this was anything but legendary



Let's meet somewhere in the middle.


I'm kind of here with it.

He should have never asked out to begin with...

But the team sent him to a spot they thought would be perfect... which it would have been without injuries...
That team he requested a trade from was just not competitive and you can't blame the guy for wanting a real chance to win. He had himself a career year statistically at 32yo and the team was still 8 games under .500 and nowhere near the playoff race. Hindsight is 20/20 but the fit with him and Giannis should have been much better than what we seen. Unfortunately Khris' inability to stay healthy really doomed that team and the situation was only compounded on when they decided to hire Adrian Griffin for some inexplicable reason. It should be telling that we as an organization had him for 5 years as an assistant and he wasn't even remotely considered for our vacancy.

With all that said, it's nice to see him return back home. It is surprising he got such a big deal (non tax MLE?) but I would assume they Blazers just had the leftover space with nobody to really use it on.
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Post#217 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jul 18, 2025 11:45 am

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Upperclass wrote:This is like when KG went back to Minn.. an absolute nothing burger


I get your point, but what did the Wolves get back for KG when we went back. What from that trade did the Wolves still have after the deal to hang their hat on?

You're talking about 7 years vs 2 years but technically... Chase Budinger, Lorenzo Brown, the draft rights to Paulão Prestes, the draft rights to Tanguy Ngombo, the draft rights to Lior Eliyahu, and some cash.
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Post#218 » by HabenKG » Fri Jul 18, 2025 12:55 pm

History will forget he was ever a Buck.
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Post#219 » by slick_watts » Fri Jul 18, 2025 1:07 pm

he'll be 36 coming off achilles. i dunno. this seems like a stretch to me.
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Post#220 » by KGtabake » Fri Jul 18, 2025 1:14 pm

Good for everyone.
For him, for the Blazers, for the Bucks who get 5mil lower on the dead cap for the next 3 seasons.
Nice story, wishing him the best, he has always been a likeable person.

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