Summer League 2025, Multi-Game Thread – (Games 1 - 4)

[Curmudgeon]

It's too early to give up on Amari and Shulga. It's only 4 games in SL at that.

With that being said, I don't know what type of commitment Brad has made to these 2 guys. As of now, I would give Bassey and Loften the 2 way deals over Amari and Shulga. Unless he does a 2 for 1 trade and can add Bassey or Loften to the team that way.

Neither Bassey nor Lofton will accept a two-way deal.

[Hal14]

Just dont let Brad Stevens draft ever again, thank you.

He drafted Jordan Walsh?

Walsh is shooting like 43% from 3 in summer league, has been one of the top 2-way players (by 2 way i mean offense and defense, not 2-way contract lol) in all of summer league this year.

Hugo is looking good as well for a 19 yr old kid picked at the end of the 1st round..

[brackdan70]

Scheierman has been terrible shooting but 5 rebounds, seven assists, 2 steals and less than 2 turnovers per game. He is doing everything else well.

[Gant]

Celtics:

Jordan is officially our all-time leading Summer League scorer
⁣
1. Jordan Walsh – 185 points⁣
2. Al Jefferson – 182 points⁣
3. Tony Allen – 175 points⁣
4. Carsen Edwards – 166 points⁣
5. J.D. Davison – 150 points⁣
Ryan Gomes – 150 points

[brackdan70]

Celtics:

Jordan is officially our all-time leading Summer League scorer
⁣
1. Jordan Walsh – 185 points⁣
2. Al Jefferson – 182 points⁣
3. Tony Allen – 175 points⁣
4. Carsen Edwards – 166 points⁣
5. J.D. Davison – 150 points⁣
Ryan Gomes – 150 points

The GOAT!!!!

[redslastlaugh]

Paul Pierce didn't have summer league after being drafted because of the lockout that year. But Paul played (i think) one game after his rookie yr in a California summer league. Pierce was head and shoulders above the competition. He had 46 pts in the game and Pitino was like, "okay Paul, youre good." and I don't think he ever played another SL game in his career.

Celtics:

Jordan is officially our all-time leading Summer League scorer
⁣
1. Jordan Walsh – 185 points⁣
2. Al Jefferson – 182 points⁣
3. Tony Allen – 175 points⁣
4. Carsen Edwards – 166 points⁣
5. J.D. Davison – 150 points⁣
Ryan Gomes – 150 points

[bisme37]

[cloverleaf]

Okay, Rico's got to get his shot back.

[gocelts]

Ha, I ended up falling asleep during this game....then this morning I read these comments on the thread and assumed we lost....these convs get way too negative...

This summer league squad is okay. Walsh is your standard 2nd round pick. Its clear he's playing a bit more selfishly as the pressure is on to make this team or any other team at this point. He'll get one more "look" this year. Don't know why he's even on the team at this point unless they are showcasing him as a throw in for a trade.

Hugo is a sneaky good pick. He's really young but knows how to play smart and beyond his age. He's going to stick around if he puts in the work. He's already pegged to have a decent career in Europe, now its a matter of if there is more potential to play in the NBA. He (and all the other rookies) need to get with the "Grant Williams 3 point shooting program" ASAP.

Baylor may not be an NBA player. He just has that uncoordinated vibe...and If he's not hitting 3s, I really don't see a use for him. He's definitely lost the most equity this summer league.

Not sure Bassy does much more Queta and Amri clearly needs a year of seasoning in the GLeague..he has time.

Not sure if Brad is a bad "drafter" or if Mazzulla is too insecure to trust a rookie out there that may cost him a game or two...Pritchard was a late pick that wasnt good right away...that said he did show signs when called upon. Its a process.

Danny botched up his fair share of drafts too...What Brad does better IMO is recover quickly by bringing in players via trade or FA that can contribute. Lets give the rookies more than a month before we declare them busts...

[lon3lytoaster]

Okay, Rico's got to get his shot back.

He’s been pretty concerningly streaky throughout his short NBA career. I don’t recall him shooting well during last year’s SL or pre-season either.

He’s not great defensively but he makes some very fun plays and generally can be a positive on the court with his effort, flair and energy but he’s gonna need to be consistent from deep.

[cloverleaf]

What does that even mean? Not a good comparison -- yeah, anyone can buy a lotto ticket.

Amari was the 46th pick in the draft. Chances are... odds are... yes, he ultimately won't pan out in the NBA, like most 46th picks.

But these guys are here primarily to learn how to play their role and the team's system and plays.

Williams might end up as a reserve player in a few years. Nobody expects a savior here. But can he be good? Of course, but it's not gonna be like randomly buying a powerball ticket. It takes time.

I would've given Brad a pass on that, but he traded down from the 32nd pick. Can't keep giving Brad the benefit of the doubt for late 2nd rounders not working out when he regularly trades down or out from higher draft positions.

Fair point.

[Hal14]

Ha, I ended up falling asleep during this game....then this morning I read these comments on the thread and assumed we lost....these convs get way too negative...

lol exactly,.

I was gonna say something like that during the game last night.

Based on the majority of the comments, you would have thought we lost by 20. But instead we won by 9..lead only got to single digits because of a 3 the Lakers tossed in in the closing seconds with nobody guarding them because the outcome had already been decided..we were up like 10-15 points most of the 4th quarter, cruised to the easy win.

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[Dogen]

What does that even mean? Not a good comparison -- yeah, anyone can buy a lotto ticket.

Amari was the 46th pick in the draft. Chances are... odds are... yes, he ultimately won't pan out in the NBA, like most 46th picks.

But these guys are here primarily to learn how to play their role and the team's system and plays.

Williams might end up as a reserve player in a few years. Nobody expects a savior here. But can he be good? Of course, but it's not gonna be like randomly buying a powerball ticket. It takes time.

I would've given Brad a pass on that, but he traded down from the 32nd pick. Can't keep giving Brad the benefit of the doubt for late 2nd rounders not working out when he regularly trades down or out from higher draft positions.

True, but he got 4 picks for 1. Granted, they are likely lower picks, but we don't know the future.

Personally, I would have probably used #32 as there were a couple of guys that went in the 32-42 range that I was interested in (like Raynaud). After 42 when Raynaud was gone, it seemed more like going through the motions.

But again, what matters here is if Amari pans out. Not this week, not next month, but more like next year. This is a good year to develop guys in Maine and bring them down to Boston for spots.If he doesn't develop in two years, move on. There were no players at 32 or after that were going to contribute to getting the team back in the playoffs, and even that does not seem to be the objective anyways.

The objective was to save money. If those guys at #32 wanted a guaranteed contract with the Celtics, Brad was right to pass and just get his guy in the first round. If he plays the finances right and gets the new owners on board, at the deadline or next summer there will be room to go after a real player.

Until then, might as well root for the maybes at 46 and 57.

[cloverleaf]

Ha, I ended up falling asleep during this game....then this morning I read these comments on the thread and assumed we lost....these convs get way too negative...

This summer league squad is okay. Walsh is your standard 2nd round pick. Its clear he's playing a bit more selfishly as the pressure is on to make this team or any other team at this point. He'll get one more "look" this year. Don't know why he's even on the team at this point unless they are showcasing him as a throw in for a trade.

Hugo is a sneaky good pick. He's really young but knows how to play smart and beyond his age. He's going to stick around if he puts in the work. He's already pegged to have a decent career in Europe, now its a matter of if there is more potential to play in the NBA. He (and all the other rookies) need to get with the "Grant Williams 3 point shooting program" ASAP.

Baylor may not be an NBA player. He just has that uncoordinated vibe...and If he's not hitting 3s, I really don't see a use for him. He's definitely lost the most equity this summer league.

Not sure Bassy does much more Queta and Amri clearly needs a year of seasoning in the GLeague..he has time.

Not sure if Brad is a bad "drafter" or if Mazzulla is too insecure to trust a rookie out there that may cost him a game or two...Pritchard was a late pick that wasnt good right away...that said he did show signs when called upon. Its a process.

Danny botched up his fair share of drafts too...What Brad does better IMO is recover quickly by bringing in players via trade or FA that can contribute. Lets give the rookies more than a month before we declare them busts...

Danny did the hard work: Got 'em a championship that would have been more without injury, then managed to convert his used-up assets into a bonanza of top picks.

Brad did good, but relatively easy, work: Topped off the team that Danny built from those picks with some savvy trades that a bit mortgaged the future. Then got 'em a championship that would have been more without injury, maxxing out ownership's credit cards along the way. Now he's low on assets for a rebuild.

[Dogen]

What does that even mean? Not a good comparison -- yeah, anyone can buy a lotto ticket.

Amari was the 46th pick in the draft. Chances are... odds are... yes, he ultimately won't pan out in the NBA, like most 46th picks.

But these guys are here primarily to learn how to play their role and the team's system and plays.

Williams might end up as a reserve player in a few years. Nobody expects a savior here. But can he be good? Of course, but it's not gonna be like randomly buying a powerball ticket. It takes time.

I would've given Brad a pass on that, but he traded down from the 32nd pick. Can't keep giving Brad the benefit of the doubt for late 2nd rounders not working out when he regularly trades down or out from higher draft positions.

Yeah the reason you don't trade down from 32 to 46 is because 46 is less likely to be a good player.

Also, you can't just call 46 a lotto ticket. That totally discounts scouting. Some teams are really good at scouting these guys. I mean look at Brooks Branhizer.

Did anyone even remotely have this guy on their radar? That's not just luck. It's good scouting too.

Yes, people had Amari remotely on their radar. Amari just didn't get discussed here because we were mostly thinking an offensive oriented big at 28 or maybe even moving up into mid first.

We'll probably never know from Brad if, for example, Danny Wolf was not taken at 27, would he have taken him at 28? If Fleming was not taken at 31, would Brad have taken him at 32? or moved up a few spots to get them with future assets.

But we do know that Brad values having future 2nds to use in trades, so we just have to live with that strategy.

If one of these guys really blows up in the next couple years, there is that case. Until then, they haven't done anything more valuable in a real NBA game than Amari Williams.

[Dogen]

Celtics:

Jordan is officially our all-time leading Summer League scorer
⁣
1. Jordan Walsh – 185 points⁣
2. Al Jefferson – 182 points⁣
3. Tony Allen – 175 points⁣
4. Carsen Edwards – 166 points⁣
5. J.D. Davison – 150 points⁣
Ryan Gomes – 150 points

All that while getting ejected during his best game!

[cloverleaf]

Okay, Rico's got to get his shot back.

He’s been pretty concerningly streaky throughout his short NBA career. I don’t recall him shooting well during last year’s SL or pre-season either.

He’s not great defensively but he makes some very fun plays and generally can be a positive on the court with his effort, flair and energy but he’s gonna need to be consistent from deep.

I think he was pretty consistent in the gleague, which has been most of his NBA career. He's been working with the coaches in Boston in the offseason, reportedly working on his shot. Anyone who has gone for a round of golf after a lesson understands how such tinkering can throw off your regular play.

[Dogen]

Just dont let Brad Stevens draft ever again, thank you.

He drafted Jordan Walsh?

Walsh is shooting like 43% from 3 in summer league, has been one of the top 2-way players (by 2 way i mean offense and defense, not 2-way contract lol) in all of summer league this year.

Hugo is looking good as well for a 19 yr old kid picked at the end of the 1st round..

Hugo, Jordan and Baylor all had flaws in their individual efforts for the four games, but to give credit, collectively they were also responsible for making the other teams play worse. It was ugly. It was 3-1. Other guys helped, but those three set the tone when they started.

[jfs1000d]

What does that even mean? Not a good comparison -- yeah, anyone can buy a lotto ticket.

Amari was the 46th pick in the draft. Chances are... odds are... yes, he ultimately won't pan out in the NBA, like most 46th picks.

But these guys are here primarily to learn how to play their role and the team's system and plays.

Williams might end up as a reserve player in a few years. Nobody expects a savior here. But can he be good? Of course, but it's not gonna be like randomly buying a powerball ticket. It takes time.

I would've given Brad a pass on that, but he traded down from the 32nd pick. Can't keep giving Brad the benefit of the doubt for late 2nd rounders not working out when he regularly trades down or out from higher draft positions.

Yeah the reason you don't trade down from 32 to 46 is because 46 is less likely to be a good player.

Also, you can't just call 46 a lotto ticket. That totally discounts scouting. Some teams are really good at scouting these guys. I mean look at Brooks Branhizer.

Did anyone even remotely have this guy on their radar? That's not just luck. It's good scouting too.

They all suck in the second round.


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[jfs1000d]

What does that even mean? Not a good comparison -- yeah, anyone can buy a lotto ticket.

Amari was the 46th pick in the draft. Chances are... odds are... yes, he ultimately won't pan out in the NBA, like most 46th picks.

But these guys are here primarily to learn how to play their role and the team's system and plays.

Williams might end up as a reserve player in a few years. Nobody expects a savior here. But can he be good? Of course, but it's not gonna be like randomly buying a powerball ticket. It takes time.

I would've given Brad a pass on that, but he traded down from the 32nd pick. Can't keep giving Brad the benefit of the doubt for late 2nd rounders not working out when he regularly trades down or out from higher draft positions.

The 32 pick, cost vs production, isn't worth it. You can find that player as an udfa most
Likely. Yes, there are extreme cases. But I wound rather get an udfa and 2 way who performs than fet locked into a project like Walsh and sow d Monet developing him only for someone else to benefit.


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