Rumors, Random Thoughts, and Non-threadworthy Posts The 19th Hole

[Klomp]

Is Anthony Black falling out of favor in Orlando, adding Bane and Jones plus Suggs still there and drafting Richardson?

[jayu70]

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[daoneandonly]

Is Anthony Black falling out of favor in Orlando, adding Bane and Jones plus Suggs still there and drafting Richardson?

I wouldn't assume that, but if he's available, Dallas should make a run

[babyjax13]

Wow!

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If anything, the Pelicans should not trade future picks because they are cursed.

[mademan]

Zion might become an ironman after he's traded from New Orleans

[orlando_joe]

Is Anthony Black falling out of favor in Orlando, adding Bane and Jones plus Suggs still there and drafting Richardson?

I wouldn't assume that, but if he's available, Dallas should make a run

i think magic see jase as a jones replacement and black as back up combo guard for now...front office still fully committed to both

[kobe_vs_jordan]

Cam Thomas vs Lowe keeping the off season interesting. I imagine his market is going to end up MLE or less at this point

[jayjaysee]

So the Cam Thomas and Mann for Kuzma idea.. but instead of a first because Mann is overpaid as well..

Can you make the value work with..

2026 swap (involving OKC or Washington) to get a couple distant seconds for Brooklyn)

And then an additional double/triple layered swap from 2028 or 2030 with Brooklyn?

Mil doesn’t mess with the 2031 first, keeps ability to add 3 first next summer if they want to.

[Scoot McGroot]

Cam Thomas vs Lowe keeping the off season interesting. I imagine his market is going to end up MLE or less at this point

Even worse, Cam Thomas doesn’t seem to realize that his argument didn’t push back at all against what Lowe was saying!

[jayjaysee]

this is a very bad version of the Gafford/CLT that I almost made into a thread for some reason..

Gafford and Naji to CLT
Klay, Connaughton, 2026 first to Brooklyn
Cam Thomas and Diabate to Dallas

This version lets Dallas pay Cam way too much under first apron (about 25 mil) or they could do it much cheaper and probably get under the tax later in the season.

Brooklyn gets best of “Dallas 2026 top 4 protected” or “worst of Orl/Mem/etc first”

Cam agrees to it because he gets to play with AD/Flagg/Kyrie and gets a chance to be a long term second option to Flagg if they both develop right.. and Dallas pays him whatever is fair?

Brooklyn likely gets a late lottery/early teens pick for a guy they haven’t locked up. Take on Klay’s contract but immediately try to trade him to the Lakers or such.

CLT gets a good enough center and a nice cheap two way wing to use until their bench prospects develop. Flip him then.

Dallas gets a couple young pieces without touching the distant firsts.

[youngcrev]

Cam Thomas vs Lowe keeping the off season interesting. I imagine his market is going to end up MLE or less at this point

Cam feels like the rare accept the QO case.

[oldncreaky]

Is Anthony Black falling out of favor in Orlando, adding Bane and Jones plus Suggs still there and drafting Richardson?

I wouldn't assume that, but if he's available, Dallas should make a run

i think magic see jase as a jones replacement and black as back up combo guard for now...front office still fully committed to both

If you look at Anthony Black as a guard, maybe he is falling out of Orlando's rotation

I look at Anthony Black as a wing, a SG/SF who is a very good defender, some ball-handling, and needs to work on his shot. I think he is an NBA rotation player, but not as a point guard or even combo guard.

[mademan]

I wouldn't assume that, but if he's available, Dallas should make a run

i think magic see jase as a jones replacement and black as back up combo guard for now...front office still fully committed to both

If you look at Anthony Black as a guard, maybe he is falling out of Orlando's rotation

I look at Anthony Black as a wing, a SG/SF who is a very good defender, some ball-handling, and needs to work on his shot. I think he is an NBA rotation player, but not as a point guard or even combo guard.

Depending on how TDS develops, even if Black is more of a wing, he may still find it difficult to earn minutes when healthy (but Suggs will be out enough to get him on the court)

[kobe_vs_jordan]

Cam Thomas vs Lowe keeping the off season interesting. I imagine his market is going to end up MLE or less at this point

Cam feels like the rare accept the QO case.

It’s lesss than MLE money. I dont see the benefit for him. Could at worse get a 2/12 deal from somewhere that has a player option.

[Scoot McGroot]

Cam Thomas vs Lowe keeping the off season interesting. I imagine his market is going to end up MLE or less at this point

Cam feels like the rare accept the QO case.

It’s lesss than MLE money. I dont see the benefit for him. Could at worse get a 2/12 deal from somewhere that has a player option.

Qualifying offer sheets have to be for a minimum of 2 years, not including option years. For that reason, he’d be better off to take his 1/6 than a 2/12 offer and re enter free agency next year when more teams have spending money, and he’d be an unrestricted free agent.

[oldncreaky]

i think magic see jase as a jones replacement and black as back up combo guard for now...front office still fully committed to both

If you look at Anthony Black as a guard, maybe he is falling out of Orlando's rotation

I look at Anthony Black as a wing, a SG/SF who is a very good defender, some ball-handling, and needs to work on his shot. I think he is an NBA rotation player, but not as a point guard or even combo guard.

Depending on how TDS develops, even if Black is more of a wing, he may still find it difficult to earn minutes when healthy (but Suggs will be out enough to get him on the court)

Maybe. I do agree that Black and DeSilva have overlapping roles with different flaws; DeSilva has to get better at defending, while Black has to improve his shooting, and which one gets court time will depend a lot on the other 4 guys on the floor.

I like Black. He reminds me quite a bit of NAW, who also took a few years for his shooting to become consistent enough to be a solid rotation player.

[djFan71]

Do Lakers have $ for a Shake and Milton for KCP and several 2nds type move with Smart signing? Does that fix things? Then use the picks and Gabe, Maxi, Vandy to upgrade elsewhere?

Tying into a Simons for KCP and draft compensation “rumor” by a twitter rando.

[Scoot McGroot]

Do Lakers have $ for a Shake and Milton for KCP and several 2nds type move with Smart signing? Does that fix things? Then use the picks and Gabe, Maxi, Vandy to upgrade elsewhere?

Tying into a Simons for KCP and draft compensation “rumor” by a twitter rando.

Shake Milton is $3m. KCP is $21.6m. LA hypothetically needs to waive Shake/Goodwin just to be able to sign Smart to the committed contract and stay under their hard cap at the 1st apron.

[djFan71]

Do Lakers have $ for a Shake and Milton for KCP and several 2nds type move with Smart signing? Does that fix things? Then use the picks and Gabe, Maxi, Vandy to upgrade elsewhere?

Tying into a Simons for KCP and draft compensation “rumor” by a twitter rando.

Shake Milton is $3m. KCP is $21.6m. LA hypothetically needs to waive Shake/Goodwin just to be able to sign Smart to the committed contract and stay under their hard cap at the 1st apron.

Whoops…. Left out the Rui part and doubled down on Shake. Copy/paste/edit error. Was supposed to be Shake and Rui. But, if they need to shed money, this doesn’t help. I wasn’t sure if it was just roster spots or not. Thanks!

[dcstanley]

Funny enough, I think a Knecht and Christie swap makes sense for both teams.

Mavs can use Knecht's shooting/scoring and have the personnel to support him defensively and the Lakers need a 2/3 defender in the worst way.