Collin Murray-Boyles Thread

PhilBlackson · Post #181 » by **PhilBlackson** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 10:52 pm

Grew wrote:I know it's just summer league, but CMB looks like he might be the closest defensive comparison to Kawhi ever. No one else has hands like that.

His processing speed is just so high on that end. He's everywhere, getting his hand on everything. I think he's better than OG in this regard already. Scary stuff. If he can keep it up against NBA players... He's impressed me so much I think he has a path to being the best defender in the league.

Naaah...I still think Kawhi had better on ball pressure where they use more of their quickness to really stiffle the ballhandler -- guys like OG and Dyson Daniels are more of that cloth.

CMB defensively is more of an overall disruptor that seems to know where to be schematically at almost all times like DRAYMOND who he is almost physically identical to him both in height, size/weight and strength. I mean watch Draymond's highlights the go watch CMB's and tell me it doesn't feel like you're damn near watching twins HOW they defend

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Watch on YouTube

He's pretty much like Draymond w/out the out of control temper/entitlement....and better overall offensive ability/potential.

rim_killa · Post #182 » by **rim_killa** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 11:31 pm

legend

littlerock2277 · Post #183 » by **littlerock2277** » Sat Jul 19, 2025 12:11 am

I was a bit skeptical at first drafting him. But I now can definitely see a lot of potential with him and Barnes on the defensive end. Going to be a prefect if he able to defend 5s. Can run a lot of small ball actions with him and Barnes at the 4 and 5 positions.

HangTime · Post #184 » by **HangTime** » Sat Jul 19, 2025 2:58 am

We're the Anti-Nash Suns,
and CMB is Anti-Nash.

Defense first, and just knows were to be on offense.

MEDIC · Post #185 » by **MEDIC** » Sat Jul 19, 2025 3:14 am

brownbobcat wrote:
MEDIC wrote:I was so impressed.

I can't think of a comp similar to him.

His game is so unexpected. He looks slow (physically) & he doesn't look like.much of a sprinter........but somehow he is all over the place & gets to spots in a sneaky fast way. There were so.many times in the game I waa thinking "where did he come from & how did he get to that spot so quickly".

Part of it is him being able to read the game so quickly. Part of it is that he constantly stays in moion & he is always doing something useful. He doesn't stand around at all. Part of it is that he simply has good feet & lateral quickness.

With out a doubt Jack is going to pull out the "old twinkletoes" line with him his season (much like does with Poeltl). He just skitters along quickly all over the court & changes direction quickly.

I know they are very different players, but my first impressions tell me that he has more talent than Scottie. Scottie is bigger & a better run and jump athlete, but I see a much higher BBall IQ & motor in CMB.

Either way..........they are both very talented & I am glad we have them both on.the roster.

I think this rebuild is going to be a lot faster than most of these experts give the team credit for.

Initial impression on defence is that he does have a very good IQ and motor. Lateral foot speed/balance at his size seems good, but not elite like OG. Good hands on both sides of the court.

Yeah, his hands are very active and quick on the defensive side.

HumbleRen · Post #186 » by **HumbleRen** » Sat Jul 19, 2025 3:19 am

I don’t see Kawhi in CMB, that’s all Draymond imo. Especially young Draymond. Just speaking purely defensively.

Absolute wrecking ball but he gambles ALOT. He’ll need to be with good team defenders around him so he can be at his best.

Blazing_royale · Post #187 » by **Blazing_royale** » Sat Jul 19, 2025 3:42 am

Reminds me of young OG.

Psubs · Post #188 » by **Psubs** » Sat Jul 19, 2025 4:08 am

Blazing_royale wrote:Reminds me of young OG.

But a quicker processor.

dballislife · Post #189 » by **dballislife** » Sat Jul 19, 2025 4:31 am

cmb can be draymond on D but green in his best years was a 10-11 ppg scorer with mid efficiency

our boy has a chance to be a efficient 17-19 ppg version of draymond with less assist

Purple+Black · Post #190 » by **Purple+Black** » Sat Jul 19, 2025 4:35 am

If he develops a decent 3pt shot and some handles, watch out.

alan_156 · Post #191 » by **alan_156** » Sat Jul 19, 2025 4:46 am

Are you guys worried our main guys like quickley Barrett and Ingram won't be able to give that same defensive intensity as we've seen so far! Those 3 guys are all more offensive players, I can't see them all locking up full court like these young cats in summer league.

Jim Todd Jr. · Post #192 » by **Jim Todd Jr.** » Sat Jul 19, 2025 5:09 am

I get the draymond comps and how he is better offensively but draymond is a top 5 dog in league history. if cmb adopts a similar mentality then the sky is truly the limit in regards to affecting winnjng basketball

Appostis · Post #193 » by **Appostis** » Sat Jul 19, 2025 5:19 am

Jim Todd Jr. wrote:I get the draymond comps and how he is better offensively but draymond is a top 5 dog in league history. if cmb adopts a similar mentality then the sky is truly the limit in regards to affecting winnjng basketball

Hopefully with a little less "natural basketball motion" kicks...

WiggOuts · Post #194 » by **WiggOuts** » Sat Jul 19, 2025 5:47 am

Imo hes not cut from the same cloth as a Kawhi/OG/Artest. Those guys, while strong as hell are more perimeter based defenders who excell on ball with great foot speed. Hes of that Draymond/Vernon Maxwell/Chuck Hayes mould who do it with strength/IQ/positioning. He can obviously still guard the perimeter to which is a huge bonus. I wouldn't put him on pgs, im sure he could hold his own in a pinch but he'd get blown by but on the flip side I think he would surprise you against some of the strongest bigs

Thaddy · Post #195 » by **Thaddy** » Sat Jul 19, 2025 6:52 am

WiggOuts wrote:Imo hes not cut from the same cloth as a Kawhi/OG/Artest. Those guys, while strong as hell are more perimeter based defenders who excell on ball with great foot speed. Hes of that Draymond/Vernon Maxwell/Chuck Hayes mould who do it with strength/IQ/positioning. He can obviously still guard the perimeter to which is a huge bonus. I wouldn't put him on pgs, im sure he could hold his own in a pinch but he'd get blown by but on the flip side I think he would surprise you against some of the strongest bigs

There isn't much difference between him and OG athletically. He could be 3+D pretty easily and abuse mismatches on the boards and inside. He will be OG+ for us in his prime. Him and Barnes are interchangeable 3/4s that can play the 5 in spurts.

JCP11 · Post #196 » by **JCP11** » Sat Jul 19, 2025 12:18 pm

alan_156 wrote:Are you guys worried our main guys like quickley Barrett and Ingram won't be able to give that same defensive intensity as we've seen so far! Those 3 guys are all more offensive players, I can't see them all locking up full court like these young cats in summer league.

What you see in summer league is not replicable in the NBA, with 10 fouls you can be super aggressive but not in the regular season, you will be in foul trouble real quick. However with Barnes, CMB, Ingram, Mogbo, Poetl you have some serious length that can disrupt any offense.

OhCanada · Post #197 » by **OhCanada** » Sat Jul 19, 2025 12:45 pm

He reminds me of a few players. He lacks the quickness of Kawhi or even Draymond but he does have those Kawhi claws, big hands the snatch up everything and his defensive game overall is very similar to Draymonds. Same build as Draymond and abillity to process plays. Also reminds me a bit of Gerald Wallace with how he attacks offensive rebounds and finishes around the rim.

In all though he's his own unique player. Looks like he's gonna be a good one.

Dexjackson · Post #198 » by **Dexjackson** » Sat Jul 19, 2025 1:11 pm

[quote="LoveMyRaps"]What makes me excited about his 20 points from last night, is the fact that he did it through the dirty work, rebounding, cutting to the rim, and hustle plays. These are plays that will be there for him during the regular season. He'll actually have even more opportunities of such.

If he was handling the ball, taking fadeaway jumpers, or whatever, sure it'd look aesthetically pleasing but you wouldn't expect that out of him during the regular season.

I think he'll have a rookie season similar to Scottie - where he'll have a bunch of 20+ point games and 8+ rebounds.[/quote]

This was my initial impression of the GS game as well. Nearly all of productivity was because of effort, BBIQ, and great instincts. I already love him as a player. I think he can be a great fit in any system.

Jerry Lucas · Post #199 » by **Jerry Lucas** » Sat Jul 19, 2025 1:14 pm

Duffman100 wrote:We have no clue who is pushing for whom in the war room. Where the responsibility lies etc.

Really, Duffman? Did we all really have no clue whatsoever?

Dexjackson · Post #200 » by **Dexjackson** » Sat Jul 19, 2025 1:16 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:
WWSRD wrote:For those more familiar with Ingram than I, please let me know:

- Can he play the 2?
- I'd like to imagine a future (like end of this season) with CMB and Scottie at the 3/4 with Poetl at the 5. That seems like the best defensive lineup.
- Slot IQ at the 1 and we know BI needs to start.

Is this possible. Let's assume shooting is not an issue.

Yes that works. Ingram is more than capable of playing the 2.

Quickley
Ingram
Barnes
CMB
Poeltl

That makes me excited. But we won't see that until RJ gets moved.

My main issue beyond the obvious shooting is guarding those quick guards. No one in that lineup can stop the shifty guards of the league (E.g. Donovan Mitchell's, tyrese Maxey, etc). I know you can't necessarily stop them but no one in this lineup is even slowing them down at all.