Kyrie Irving claps back at Kevin Durant over Brooklyn Nets comments

[MrGoat]

He's a Nation of Islam Muslim, though. Nation of Islam is to Islam what Scientology is to Christianity. A quick glance at the doctrine of Yakub will make the difference pretty clear

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakub_(Nation_of_Islam)

Kyrie is not a member of the NOI. He's a standard Muslim.

And Scientology isn't related to Christianity in anyway unlike the NOI being an offshoot on Islam practiced by the majority of the Muslim community.

Well, that was kind of the point. NOI isn't really compatible with any other forms of Islam and has a very science fictiony bent to it, there's not much relation between them aside from them both being considered religions

I don't know if Kyrie is or not but he's spouted stuff on twitter before that sounds very NOI. The documentary he got in trouble for had some Louis Farrakhan teachings in it too which is as NOI as it gets. Maybe I was making a faulty assumption though, because Kyrie has been known to say some pretty out there things at times

[threethehardway]

Well, that was kind of the point. NOI isn't really compatible with any other forms of Islam and has a very science fictiony bent to it, there's not much relation between them aside from them both being considered religions

I don't know if Kyrie is or not but he's spouted stuff on twitter before that sounds very NOI. The documentary he got in trouble for had some Louis Farrakhan teachings in it too which is as NOI as it gets. Maybe I was making a faulty assumption though, because Kyrie has been known to say some pretty out there things at times

Religions are interpretated through the host culture it is in.

There are cultural differences in White American Christianity that has nothing to do with the mainstream Christianity practiced in say Greece, like the Prosperity Gospel or megachurches or Televangelism.

To say there is some pure Christianity out there or pure Islam that people follow to a tee without any cultural filter is false.

Kyrie watched a few weird documentaries and posed some off the wall questions on Twitter because he's stupid but that doesn't mean he is part of the NOI. Anybody that is tuned in, knows it was basic barbershop talk by the guy that was deconstructing his views of the world as he was converting. He fell down a rabbit hole that is like the Black American Muslim Convert Starter Pack, given the information he culturally has access to. Eventually, like almost everyone does when they convert to a new religion, he will become more mainstream as he receives information that doesn't have a strong host culture filter.

Nobody talks about the charity he does for the Muslim world like giving Pakistani villages water.
https://nypost.com/2021/07/30/kyrie-irving-makes-clean-water-a-reality-in-pakastani-village/

Or that he goes to a mainstream mosque.
https://vric.org/religious-leadership/
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RJTQjcQ2ql4

Kyrie is more normal than most NBA fans wanna give him credit for.

[KazuoOda]

He's a Nation of Islam Muslim, though. Nation of Islam is to Islam what Scientology is to Christianity. A quick glance at the doctrine of Yakub will make the difference pretty clear

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakub_(Nation_of_Islam)

Kyrie is not a member of the NOI. He's a standard Muslim.

And Scientology isn't related to Christianity in anyway unlike the NOI being an offshoot on Islam practiced by the majority of the Muslim community.

Well, that was kind of the point. NOI isn't really compatible with any other forms of Islam and has a very science fictiony bent to it, there's not much relation between them aside from them both being considered religions

I don't know if Kyrie is or not but he's spouted stuff on twitter before that sounds very NOI. The documentary he got in trouble for had some Louis Farrakhan teachings in it too which is as NOI as it gets. Maybe I was making a faulty assumption though, because Kyrie has been known to say some pretty out there things at times

If you don't know what he is or not, why are you acting like you do. Thats harmless and weird af

[MrGoat]

Kyrie is not a member of the NOI. He's a standard Muslim.

And Scientology isn't related to Christianity in anyway unlike the NOI being an offshoot on Islam practiced by the majority of the Muslim community.

Well, that was kind of the point. NOI isn't really compatible with any other forms of Islam and has a very science fictiony bent to it, there's not much relation between them aside from them both being considered religions

I don't know if Kyrie is or not but he's spouted stuff on twitter before that sounds very NOI. The documentary he got in trouble for had some Louis Farrakhan teachings in it too which is as NOI as it gets. Maybe I was making a faulty assumption though, because Kyrie has been known to say some pretty out there things at times

If you don't know what he is or not, why are you acting like you do. Thats harmless and weird af

NOI isn't exactly harmless. You'd have to go back to the original question that prompted the response, which as a refresher was about Joe Tsai and the Uighur Muslims in China and why Kyrie didn't seem to care about that.

NOI is largely the root of black Islam in America though only the serious ones could give you the details or even tell you whether they are Sunni or Shia, Malcolm X actually tried and failed to form a different version before he was assassinated. It is a very racist religion that believes that a mad black scientist in Mecca named Yakub over 6000 years ago created the white race through genetic manipulation. The black pigments had a recessive brown pigment, and the brown pigments had a recessive red pigment, and the red pigments had a recessive yellow pigment, and the yellow pigments had a recessive white pigment. The other races than black were the byproducts of Yakub trying to create the evil white race. And Yakub bred the white race to be evil to enslave the black race for 6000 years ending in 1914. This is why the term 'white devils' exists.

Now Kyrie is black, lives in America, and is on record saying things that strongly resemble NOI. To answer the original question, the yellow Muslims in China are just one step away from being white according to NOI so if Kyrie has spouted racist NOI stuff it's not that much of a leap to speculate why he doesn't seem to care about Joe Tsai and the Uighur Muslims even if he isn't a full blown Nation of Islam Muslim. I was just attempting to answer a complicated question.

[LakersLegacy]

If anything i expect Kyrie to one day clap back/publicly flame the genocidal part owner of The Nets Joe Tsai (especially as Kyrie is a Muslim)

I think he and KD are fine as far as I can ascertain

Irving seems more into the flat earth stuff than the Palestine genocide

The Duke devils did not teach him that an eclipse shows the curve in 2009

[RoteSchroder]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Human_Rights_Office_report_on_Xinjiang

Well, that was kind of the point. NOI isn't really compatible with any other forms of Islam and has a very science fictiony bent to it, there's not much relation between them aside from them both being considered religions

I don't know if Kyrie is or not but he's spouted stuff on twitter before that sounds very NOI. The documentary he got in trouble for had some Louis Farrakhan teachings in it too which is as NOI as it gets. Maybe I was making a faulty assumption though, because Kyrie has been known to say some pretty out there things at times

If you don't know what he is or not, why are you acting like you do. Thats harmless and weird af

Now Kyrie is black, lives in America, and is on record saying things that strongly resemble NOI. To answer the original question, the yellow Muslims in China are just one step away from being white according to NOI so if Kyrie has spouted racist NOI stuff it's not that much of a leap to speculate why he doesn't seem to care about Joe Tsai and the Uighur Muslims even if he isn't a full blown Nation of Islam Muslim. I was just attempting to answer a complicated question.

Every time this BS gets posted, I'll post a piece of counterevidence. If we keep going, the full picture is gonna emerge. Not even gonna reply to your arguments as I did warn you guys twice.

Accusation:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/24/thousands-of-detained-uyghurs-pictured-in-leaked-xinjiang-police-files

Thousands of detained Uyghurs pictured in leaked Xinjiang police files

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/85qihtvw6e/the-faces-from-chinas-uyghur-detention-camps

The faces from China’s Uyghur detention camps

...
The BBC also asked Professor Hany Farid, an image-forensics expert at the University of California at Berkeley, to examine a subset of the photographs of Uyghur detainees.
He found no evidence that the images had been fabricated, with none of the usual tell-tale signs found in computer synthesised “deep fakes” nor any other indication of malicious, digital manipulation.

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2022/05/24/xinjiang-police-files-exclusive-documents-reveal-china-s-machine-of-repression-against-the-uyghurs_5984537_4.html

'Xinjiang Police Files': Exclusive documents reveal China's machine of repression against the Uyghurs

Examples of the "non-fabricated" photos referred to by the media
http://www.xinjiangpolicefiles.org/wp-content/uploads/dt_imgs/20180518125910549_653121196306.jpg


https://www.xinjiangpolicefiles.org/wp-content/uploads/dt_imgs/20180518121510975_653121198409.jpg


https://www.xinjiangpolicefiles.org/wp-content/uploads/dt_imgs/20180515184435950_653121197306.jpg

(glasses on ears only partially rendered)

Many of them are wearing the same clothing, have no arms, glasses are only partially rendered, AI-image isn't even rendered properly, etc.

Even in the images that BBC used in their article, you can see problems with the photos

[th87]

Come for the drama, stay for the conspiracies



(Interesting discussions though)

[NoStatsGuy]

KD didnt even say anything about Kyrie and Kyrie said he's gonna address it. How exactly is this a clap-back? lol. Just manufacturing drama? KD's answer to the problems in BRK were as diplomatic as can be

Yup, I was thinking the same lol clap back to what? He really didn’t say anything

its a bit of mental gymnasitcs and im just assuming. but i think kyrie is insecure about the whole "we dont need a coach" thing that went on before they even played a game together. And im assuming he took it as a "shot"? maybe im not sure as i said

[Pattycakes]

I miss the days when kyrie insta revealed dudes with tiny peepees anytime he opened his mouth

[dWadeOwnzYou]

The only thing Kyrie clapped back, was his butt cheeks.

[JN61]

KD didnt even say anything about Kyrie and Kyrie said he's gonna address it. How exactly is this a clap-back? lol. Just manufacturing drama? KD's answer to the problems in BRK were as diplomatic as can be

You've to remember we aren't dealing with the brightest of minds with Irving.