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Re: Celtics 2025-26, Off-Season/Training Camp Thread 

Post#1661 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Sat Jul 19, 2025 4:53 pm

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brackdan70 wrote:Why do you say that?


He's a 3rd or 4th string center, so starting him is a recipe for disaster...

Idk we will see. He has been pretty effective as a starter and when playing a rotation role.


Tatum and the rest of the All Star Team he played with are nowhere to be found. His flaws are going to be all exposed surrounded by a lack of talent.
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Re: Celtics 2025-26, Off-Season/Training Camp Thread 

Post#1662 » by redslastlaugh » Sat Jul 19, 2025 4:58 pm

The problem with Simons is that this season is his contract year and he's facing a big pay decrease in his contract and we're not sure if he's accepted that fact.

you look at Gary Trent jr's contract (2yrs for $7.5 mil), you look at Cam Thomas stalled negotiations and you look at how Jordan Poole's deal became an albatross, and I would think that it's hard for teams to really want to deal with Simons if he's not in touch with the financial reality of his NBA worth in 2025. Nobody wants an unhappy camper in the lockerroom because his contract negotiations are stuck in the mud


ParticleMan wrote:all anfernee has to do is be an average defender and he brings a lot of value. we've seen guys do that here like hauser and PP. simons has less physical limitations than those guys. it's a matter of desire, coaching, and reps.

i'm still thinking he gets traded but if he sticks it's possible he could eventually be a very good 3rd scoring option behind the jays.
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Re: Celtics 2025-26, Off-Season/Training Camp Thread 

Post#1663 » by cloverleaf » Sat Jul 19, 2025 5:25 pm

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Stop bringing that up


He cant and thatbwas an outlier season.

22 the season before and 23 last season. A career 19.5

Bottom line, he's capable of putting 27.6% assist for an entire season. Something no one else on our roster has ever done.

And his assist % would have been higher in every season of his career, but he was on bad teams with poor shooting and poor spacing. You put him on a team with the Jays, Pritchard and White? It's possible he'll have a new career high assist % here in Boston.

The passing looks good on film too..

And in that game vs the Pacers, he defense didn't look too bad either.



1 season out of 7 isn't an outlier. and causation/correlation isnt a thing either. JT has never done 27% for a season...durrr....


That ONE season where Simons did it, it was a 46 game sample size, it was on a team with Scott and Brogdon as the only other capable ball handlers...so his numbers were inflated out of neccessity. BRogdon played 39 games and had a higher AST% and Scoot had a higher AST%


No one else had above a 15


On the Celtics we had 5 regular rotation guys over 15 AST% and 3 more regular rotation guys over 10.



get it???

If Simons is in change of playmaking on this team then the team is ****


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Re: Celtics 2025-26, Off-Season/Training Camp Thread 

Post#1664 » by Celts17Pride » Sat Jul 19, 2025 5:46 pm

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He's a 3rd or 4th string center, so starting him is a recipe for disaster...

Idk we will see. He has been pretty effective as a starter and when playing a rotation role.


Tatum and the rest of the All Star Team he played with are nowhere to be found. His flaws are going to be all exposed surrounded by a lack of talent.

Queta is an easy 10 ppg, 10 rpg guy who will be a good rotation player. If that’s people’s expectations then they will be happy, if they are expecting more then they probably will be disappointed
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Re: Celtics 2025-26, Off-Season/Training Camp Thread 

Post#1665 » by brackdan70 » Sat Jul 19, 2025 5:55 pm

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brackdan70 wrote:Idk we will see. He has been pretty effective as a starter and when playing a rotation role.


Tatum and the rest of the All Star Team he played with are nowhere to be found. His flaws are going to be all exposed surrounded by a lack of talent.

Queta is an easy 10 ppg, 10 rpg guy who will be a good rotation player. If that’s people’s expectations then they will be happy, if they are expecting more then they probably will be disappointed

Yeah exactly. Advanced metrics point to him being productive as a starter. He won’t be Jokic or anything but will be solid
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Re: Celtics 2025-26, Off-Season/Training Camp Thread 

Post#1666 » by brackdan70 » Sat Jul 19, 2025 5:58 pm

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He's a 3rd or 4th string center, so starting him is a recipe for disaster...

Idk we will see. He has been pretty effective as a starter and when playing a rotation role.


Tatum and the rest of the All Star Team he played with are nowhere to be found. His flaws are going to be all exposed surrounded by a lack of talent.

I count two out of three all star caliber guys from last year and a 6th man of the year. This is still a good team that added some role players with nice upside.
Holiday and Porzingis were not all star caliber last year…barely top 100 guys.
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Post#1667 » by Curmudgeon » Sat Jul 19, 2025 6:53 pm

Queta will be fine if he can stay out of foul trouble.
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Re: Celtics 2025-26, Off-Season/Training Camp Thread 

Post#1668 » by phincsfan » Sat Jul 19, 2025 7:48 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:Queta will be fine if he can stay out of foul trouble.


I think Neems and Garza will be a decent platoon for this season. No barn-burning happening, but for a year like this one they'll be fine.
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Post#1669 » by Parliament10 » Sat Jul 19, 2025 7:53 pm

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Post#1670 » by redslastlaugh » Sat Jul 19, 2025 7:54 pm

True. His fouls per 36 year over year are heading in the direction though, so thats a good sign
last yr Queta was 4.4 fouls per 36 which is about Daniel Theis's foul rate (4.5/36) when Brad brought him back in the Ime Udoka yr

Jaren Jackson Jr is a big whose foul proneness is frequently singled out as limiting and JJJ is career 4.6f/p36

Neemi just has to keep getting better with the fouling, and I think he can

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Re: Celtics 2025-26, Off-Season/Training Camp Thread 

Post#1671 » by cloverleaf » Sat Jul 19, 2025 7:59 pm

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bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:By the end of the upcoming season, people will hope that Queta is waived...

Why do you say that?


He's a 3rd or 4th string center, so starting him is a recipe for disaster...


Stevens claimed that Luke and Queta were "much better" than 3rd and 4th centers, respectively. IMO that means he sees them as 1st and 2nd string centers, respectively.
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Re: Celtics 2025-26, Off-Season/Training Camp Thread 

Post#1673 » by Shak_Celts » Sat Jul 19, 2025 10:40 pm

cloverleaf wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:Why do you say that?


He's a 3rd or 4th string center, so starting him is a recipe for disaster...


Stevens claimed that Luke and Queta were "much better" than 3rd and 4th centers, respectively. IMO that means he sees them as 1st and 2nd string centers, respectively.

Meh, could be, but I think those numbers move to 2nd and 3rd.
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Post#1677 » by bucknersrevenge » Mon Jul 21, 2025 1:17 am

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bucknersrevenge wrote:Not sure anyone is suggesting that primary PG duties be turned over to Anfernee Simons here. Not sure that would even fly for a Joe-Mazzulla coached team anyway. Simons is, however in fact the only guard on this roster capable of breaking down a defense on his own to create defensive rotation. That is a valuable skill here no matter how you slice it and no matter who gets the assist. I still worry about "too many chefs in the kitchen" although next year that shouldn't be much of an issue. I expect Simons to be a 20ppg scorer if he stays.


Out of curiosity, are you considering Brown guard eligible with that comment?

On Simons, it really comes down to 2026. This year he's very likely to have his best season. But even if you see a world you can properly feed your core guys with Simons (JT/JB/PP/DW....perhaps Scheierman), the team is BEST served acquiring a star level big man by 2026 (trade/draft/otherwise). Defensively you can get pretty far with applying physical and mental effort, but I don't know if he ever gets to be not a targeting problem. Again, things can change, PP could get traded, and one swaps with another in that regard.

If they trade him, the team will lose more games than they would have with him this year. There's a benefit in that if you want to put the draft in play. I won't freak if they keep him because this can go down a number of ways that could result in that big man.


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Re: Celtics 2025-26, Off-Season/Training Camp Thread 

Post#1678 » by bucknersrevenge » Mon Jul 21, 2025 1:20 am

redslastlaugh wrote:The problem with Simons is that this season is his contract year and he's facing a big pay decrease in his contract and we're not sure if he's accepted that fact.

you look at Gary Trent jr's contract (2yrs for $7.5 mil), you look at Cam Thomas stalled negotiations and you look at how Jordan Poole's deal became an albatross, and I would think that it's hard for teams to really want to deal with Simons if he's not in touch with the financial reality of his NBA worth in 2025. Nobody wants an unhappy camper in the lockerroom because his contract negotiations are stuck in the mud


ParticleMan wrote:all anfernee has to do is be an average defender and he brings a lot of value. we've seen guys do that here like hauser and PP. simons has less physical limitations than those guys. it's a matter of desire, coaching, and reps.

i'm still thinking he gets traded but if he sticks it's possible he could eventually be a very good 3rd scoring option behind the jays.


With what we know about and have seen from Brad, do you really think he would give Simons a pay cut? Not asking what you think Simons deserves here. Just who Brad is...
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Re: Celtics 2025-26, Off-Season/Training Camp Thread 

Post#1679 » by Hal14 » Mon Jul 21, 2025 4:20 pm

Well, with Austin Ainge and Remy Coefield leaving the front office in the past few months, it was a matter of time before we hired someone to replace them..

Surprisingly, no one from here got hired lol.

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Re: Celtics 2025-26, Off-Season/Training Camp Thread 

Post#1680 » by redslastlaugh » Mon Jul 21, 2025 4:24 pm

yea, for sure, we could see this coming. They needed to hire someone

However, this individual I have never heard of, first time I am hearing his name. Is he known for any particular approach, is he a former agent? Is he basing his decisions on analytics models?

Know nothing about this fella.

Edit: Nets made a lot of moves last year, but I don't know which of those moves, are credited to whom. The previous years he worked for the Nuggets under Booth and the Nuggets made a bunch of suboptimal moves and Nuggets reddit is thrilled with the new front office that just took over and can't miss an opportunity to say how much the earlier front office had blundered.

About Nicholas, the new hire, I hope we get some quotes in a Himmelsbach article or a couple press conference quotes, to let us know what the team likes about him and, hopefully, he is more draft and prospect oriented.

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Surprisingly, no one from here got hired lol.

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