Cooper Flagg -- Season 1 thread -- Summer League discussion

Post #441 » by **HMFFL** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 2:58 pm

By mid-season, I assume Flagg will be our #1 option on offense. What I mean by that is Flagg will lead our team in field goal attempts and drive the offense.

arkuo · Post #442 » by **arkuo** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 4:47 pm

It might take more than half a season to get Flagg to be #1 offensive option. But I like the idea. That's no different from Boston giving the ball to Tatum to generate offense.

Post #443 » by **HMFFL** » Thu Jul 17, 2025 6:12 pm

arkuo wrote:It might take more than half a season to get Flagg to be #1 offensive option. But I like the idea. That's no different from Boston giving the ball to Tatum to generate offense.

Who else makes sense as the #1 option?

Anthony Davis can't be our #1 if we expect to win. You know his injury history. He is good for about 15 or 16 field goal attempts per game. He averaged 29 minutes per game for us.

Teffer10 · Post #444 » by **Teffer10** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:31 am

HMFFL wrote:
arkuo wrote:It might take more than half a season to get Flagg to be #1 offensive option. But I like the idea. That's no different from Boston giving the ball to Tatum to generate offense.
Who else makes sense as the #1 option?

Anthony Davis can't be our #1 if we expect to win. You know his injury history. He is good for about 15 or 16 field goal attempts per game. He averaged 29 minutes per game for us.

He played in about 29% of the games Mavs played since we acquired him so we can expect him to suit up about 27 times next season.

Flagg will evolve quickly into our #1 option.

Darren · Post #445 » by **Darren** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 10:37 am

I think the Mavs is better off not heavily rely on steady scoring options like Dirk's era on Dirk and Jet. But rather, the Mavs could build a team in SAS manner with Duncan, Parker and Ginobili. I still remember how many team sleep on SAS sitting the trio and pay the price. The team didn't need to rely on single player to win at all. Anyone could step up to win game. Dictate the mismatch and make teams pay sleeping on the role players should be the kind of new identity moving forward. The Mavs has rely heavily on AD offensively. That's why it's easier to set up defense and cut off the passing lanes by playoff opponents and burning out key players. With a super big lineup, picking away defenders from Coop, the Mavs could create mismatches here and there and beat teams in many different ways. So I think the main problem is not whether AD or Coop should be the focal point on offense. Instead, it should be how can the Mavs create mismatches and make good use of the size advantages. Last season, the Mavs was playing smaller than their actual size. This is not a good sign moving forward if Memphis could outhustle and outrebound the super big roster and score more effectively in paint. This is virtually unacceptable if length and defense are now the major strengthes for the team. Being able to space the floor and cut to the basket should be part of the strength as team can only pick poisons on size disadvantages.

Darren · Post #446 » by **Darren** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 4:02 pm

I think pick-n-roll effectiveness on both ends will mean a lot to winning. Teams will try to resolve the size issues with screen defensively. Not biting on pumpfakes is also an issue. Meanwhile, the Mavs need solid screen to resolve the quickness advantage of opposing teams offensively as the Mavs lacks the gravity to generate offense. The Mavs has to take advantage of the length and bulk.

Post #447 » by **HMFFL** » Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:49 pm

Teffer10 wrote:
HMFFL wrote:
arkuo wrote:It might take more than half a season to get Flagg to be #1 offensive option. But I like the idea. That's no different from Boston giving the ball to Tatum to generate offense.
Who else makes sense as the #1 option?

Anthony Davis can't be our #1 if we expect to win. You know his injury history. He is good for about 15 or 16 field goal attempts per game. He averaged 29 minutes per game for us.

He played in about 29% of the games Mavs played since we acquired him so we can expect him to suit up about 27 times next season.

Flagg will evolve quickly into our #1 option.

That's how I feel.
I don't see who else can possibly be an option other than Flagg if we want to win basketball games. Nobody else on the roster can lead this team as the #1.

He is a rookie, so I know it probably sounds crazy to some fans.

Teffer10 · Post #448 » by **Teffer10** » Sat Jul 19, 2025 3:08 am

HMFFL wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:
HMFFL wrote:Who else makes sense as the #1 option?

Anthony Davis can't be our #1 if we expect to win. You know his injury history. He is good for about 15 or 16 field goal attempts per game. He averaged 29 minutes per game for us.

He played in about 29% of the games Mavs played since we acquired him so we can expect him to suit up about 27 times next season.

Flagg will evolve quickly into our #1 option.
That's how I feel.
I don't see who else can possibly be an option other than Flagg if we want to win basketball games. Nobody else on the roster can lead this team as the #1.

He is a rookie, so I know it probably sounds crazy to some fans.

I almost think the best thing that could happen long term for this team is for Flagg to be thrust into that role because AD isnt available to do it. We would most likely suck and get a high pick next season and it would force the FO to abort the win now strategy and start trading valuable assets for pieces that fit with Flagg's timeframe.

Flagg develops the skills to expedite his leadership role on this team.

41Dirk41 · Post #449 » by **41Dirk41** » Sat Jul 19, 2025 9:15 am

If street clothes will miss 30%/40% of next season games he will be done here... He and who traded for him.

But ehy, it will be just a great thing for the Mavs.

Mr B · Post #450 » by **Mr B** » Sat Jul 19, 2025 4:42 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:If street clothes will miss 30%/40% of next season games he will be done here... He and who traded for him.

But ehy, it will be just a great thing for the Mavs.

Bro get over it. Luka doesn’t play for the Mavs anymore and he’s not coming back.

41Dirk41 · Post #451 » by **41Dirk41** » Sat Jul 19, 2025 9:35 pm

Mr B wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:If street clothes will miss 30%/40% of next season games he will be done here... He and who traded for him.

But ehy, it will be just a great thing for the Mavs.

Bro get over it. Luka doesn’t play for the Mavs anymore and he’s not coming back.

Man, you are obsessed by Doncic. You need treatment.

Post #452 » by **HMFFL** » Sat Jul 19, 2025 10:07 pm

Teffer10 wrote:
HMFFL wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:He played in about 29% of the games Mavs played since we acquired him so we can expect him to suit up about 27 times next season.

Flagg will evolve quickly into our #1 option.
That's how I feel.
I don't see who else can possibly be an option other than Flagg if we want to win basketball games. Nobody else on the roster can lead this team as the #1.

He is a rookie, so I know it probably sounds crazy to some fans.

I almost think the best thing that could happen long term for this team is for Flagg to be thrust into that role because AD isnt available to do it. We would most likely suck and get a high pick next season and it would force the FO to abort the win now strategy and start trading valuable assets for pieces that fit with Flagg's timeframe.

Flagg develops the skills to expedite his leadership role on this team.

That's what I expect to happen as long as Flagg produces.

A minimum of 18 field goal attempts per game is what I expect Flagg to average.

Mr B · Post #453 » by **Mr B** » Sat Jul 19, 2025 10:42 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:
Mr B wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:If street clothes will miss 30%/40% of next season games he will be done here... He and who traded for him.

But ehy, it will be just a great thing for the Mavs.

Bro get over it. Luka doesn’t play for the Mavs anymore and he’s not coming back.

Man, you are obsessed by Doncic. You need treatment.

Yea, I’m the one obsessed. Lol

Heezzi · Post #454 » by **Heezzi** » Tue Jul 22, 2025 4:49 pm

HMFFL wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:
HMFFL wrote:Who else makes sense as the #1 option?

Anthony Davis can't be our #1 if we expect to win. You know his injury history. He is good for about 15 or 16 field goal attempts per game. He averaged 29 minutes per game for us.

He played in about 29% of the games Mavs played since we acquired him so we can expect him to suit up about 27 times next season.

Flagg will evolve quickly into our #1 option.
That's how I feel.
I don't see who else can possibly be an option other than Flagg if we want to win basketball games. Nobody else on the roster can lead this team as the #1.

He is a rookie, so I know it probably sounds crazy to some fans.

It will be AD.

41Dirk41 · Post #455 » by **41Dirk41** » Tue Jul 22, 2025 5:03 pm

Heezzi wrote:
HMFFL wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:He played in about 29% of the games Mavs played since we acquired him so we can expect him to suit up about 27 times next season.

Flagg will evolve quickly into our #1 option.
That's how I feel.
I don't see who else can possibly be an option other than Flagg if we want to win basketball games. Nobody else on the roster can lead this team as the #1.

He is a rookie, so I know it probably sounds crazy to some fans.

It will be AD.

Heezzi · Post #456 » by **Heezzi** » Tue Jul 22, 2025 6:19 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:
Heezzi wrote:
HMFFL wrote:That's how I feel.
I don't see who else can possibly be an option other than Flagg if we want to win basketball games. Nobody else on the roster can lead this team as the #1.

He is a rookie, so I know it probably sounds crazy to some fans.

It will be AD.

Yes the guy that was an Allstar and 6th in MVP voting.

daoneandonly · Post #457 » by **daoneandonly** » Tue Jul 22, 2025 6:29 pm

Heezzi wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
Heezzi wrote:
It will be AD.

Yes the guy that was an Allstar and 6th in MVP voting.

And game totals come out to like playing every 6 games while making 54 mil a year. He's a detriment to the team and Flagg/PJ should be the starting forwards

41Dirk41 · Post #458 » by **41Dirk41** » Tue Jul 22, 2025 8:10 pm

Heezzi wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
Heezzi wrote:
It will be AD.

Yes the guy that was an Allstar and 6th in MVP voting.

Yes the guy was never been a #1 option in a contender... Even when he was healthy, it is not his role. Too soft.

Heezzi · Post #459 » by **Heezzi** » Wed Jul 23, 2025 1:32 am

41Dirk41 wrote:
Heezzi wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:

Yes the guy that was an Allstar and 6th in MVP voting.

Yes the guy was never been a #1 option in a contender... Even when he was healthy, it is not his role. Too soft.

You do know it's a team game right? You think Luka was hard? AD is harder than Luka is.

41Dirk41 · Post #460 » by **41Dirk41** » Wed Jul 23, 2025 6:57 am

Heezzi wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
Heezzi wrote:Yes the guy that was an Allstar and 6th in MVP voting.

Yes the guy was never been a #1 option in a contender... Even when he was healthy, it is not his role. Too soft.

You do know it's a team game right? You think Luka was hard? AD is harder than Luka is.

That's not the point of the discussion, can AD be a #1 option? No he can't. He never was.
He was a great Batman, now probably he is just a Cat woman.

With him in that role we lost he play in finals and we didn't make the PO. It's a fact.

It will be a bad wake up for you guy... I hope CF is more ready than i think otherwise the season will be hard to watch.