Beenie wrote:Tim_Hardawayy wrote:Herro and picks AND whatever else they want for Trae Young? Lmao sometimes I wonder if you guys are secretly just fans of these other teams.
Herro’s a flawed player who gets exposed defensively…so is Trae Young! And LaMelo, and even Ja Morant (who admittedly is a tier above the others in talent but doesn’t show it consistently). The amount of you desperate to dump Herro for one of these other equally flawed players has me scratching my head, especially when you want to sweeten the deal with picks and filler too.
At the very least even if you hate Herro personally, at least try to get back good value for him. You can’t stand him because he like everyone else sucked against Cleveland…ok, meanwhile he was the best player on the court and outplayed Trae head to head to even get this team into the playoffs.
Who would u rather have in the playoffs, Trae or Herro?
I'm not even a big Trae guy, but he's proven to be the better post season player.
Furthermore, all of Mia's ball handlers stink; Herro especially. I hold my breath every time an aggressive POA defender is matched against him.
Trae is one of the best handlers in the league and automatically bolsters the roster from being amongst the worst collectively in basketball, to one of the best.
All that said, Mia shouldnt prioritize getting Trae, imo.
If he falls into their laps at 'no-brainer' of a price then so be it.
Well firstly, this is ignoring the original trade idea, which was that we couldn't get Trae for Herro, no, we'd have to throw in picks and "whatever else they want". Which is laughable.
Secondly, while there's probably Herro fans out there (they certainly don't exist on realgm) who overrate Herro because he's a white boy or whatever stupid reason they have... I think a lot of that goes on with Trae (and similar type players) as well! Because they "play with swag" or whatever garbage. But if you look at his numbers, he's an inefficient chucker and even more awful than Herro on defense. The only positive is he's more of a creator, but now you have more creation but less go to offense, unless you want Trae to be a chucker for the Heat as well. Because Bam's not a go to guy, Ware isn't, nobody on the current roster is, and if you're trading Herro for Trae its because you want to sign him to his max, especially if you're giving away extra value on top of Herro.
Actually if you look at Trae's numbers, he's been in decline for years now. His peak was 4 seasons ago. What I will say is, if you absolutely do not believe in Herro and you passionately believe in Trae Young (for whatever reason), then you can make the "selling high" argument. Because by most statistical measures, Herro was better than Trae last season. I don't hate that but it would have to be like you said at the end of your post, that he falls into our laps and he's not a priority. The idea that he's the final piece to make this build work though would make me as ill as if it was the inverse, and we were dealing with the headache that was Trae Young, and someone was arguing that we should deal him for Tyler Herro as our final piece. They're both flawed players, but at least Herro appears to be improving while Young is getting worse.
EDIT: One more point on the "wouldn't you prefer Trae for the playoffs" argument. The play-in games are effectively the playoffs. We played Trae Young last year, Herro matched up head to head with him. Trae looked like garbage and even gave up on an offensive rebound by sulking, Herro played great. Its a one game sample, but its gotta be part of your analysis, and that game made me really sour on Young, all the things people complain about with Herro were on display for Young in that game but even worse because it was two mediocre teams matched up and he STILL couldn't get it going.
