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Re: Summer League 

Post#141 » by Frank Lee » Thu Jul 17, 2025 2:55 am

I think the front office, and they’d never admit it, has bagged this season already. As they should. At least they have some real nba players, some pretty talented, that they have cobbled together. A few will be dealt for sure. Wishbia will hardsell a playoff spot as being a victory on the year.

Apparently waiting on the SudanMan was in the cards. Thus Williams, and keeping Richards.

I haven’t seen his play other than Duke, and I wasn’t wowed. Disappointing but not surprising to hear the eye witness reports. At least with the C depth, fragile as it may be, they don’t have to play this kid much if any. I see the GLeague in his future.
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Post#142 » by sunsbg » Thu Jul 17, 2025 5:56 am

That's some atrocious FT shooting from Dunn, Oso, Maluach. The later was 2/6 in a previous game IIRC. Maybe make your FTs before jacking up 3s.
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Post#143 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Jul 17, 2025 6:58 am

sunsbg wrote:That's some atrocious FT shooting from Dunn, Oso, Maluach. The later was 2/6 in a previous game IIRC. Maybe make your FTs before jacking up 3s.

For a guy who shot 76.6% in college, we should expect more from Maluach at the FT line

But yeah, Dunn and Oso shooting 30% or worse from the FT line is embarrassing. They've had a whole year in the league to work on it
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Post#144 » by sasquatchBob » Thu Jul 17, 2025 7:30 am

Maluach does not look quick enough. That scares me.
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Post#145 » by KdoubleDees23 » Thu Jul 17, 2025 12:12 pm

Maluach is 18 . He will be fine.
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Post#146 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Thu Jul 17, 2025 5:50 pm

KdoubleDees23 wrote:Maluach is 18 . He will be fine.


It's wise to give as little thought as possible to summer league. He's very young. This was likely the worst version of Khaman Maluach we will ever see.
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Post#147 » by sunsbum » Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:07 pm

I’ll be honest, it took me all about the first quarter watching maluach play to know he needs to put on muscle. He got bullied by a couple of guards right out the gate. When he’s able to hold his own strength wise downlow people are going to stop driving at him like that. He looks a bit more raw than I thought he would be but there was also some glimmer of things he did that I didn’t know he could. If he can avg 12/9/1.5 being a threat From three 35%+ I’d be pretty happy.
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Post#148 » by bigfoot » Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:13 pm

sunsbum wrote:I’ll be honest, it took me all about the first quarter watching maluach play to know he needs to put on muscle. He got bullied by a couple of guards right out the gate. When he’s able to hold his own strength wise downlow people are going to stop driving at him like that. He looks a bit more raw than I thought he would be but there was also some glimmer of things he did that I didn’t know he could. If he can avg 12/9/1.5 being a threat From three 35%+ I’d be pretty happy.


Certainly motivation to earn that second contract!
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Post#149 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:54 pm

sunsbum wrote:I’ll be honest, it took me all about the first quarter watching maluach play to know he needs to put on muscle. He got bullied by a couple of guards right out the gate. When he’s able to hold his own strength wise downlow people are going to stop driving at him like that. He looks a bit more raw than I thought he would be but there was also some glimmer of things he did that I didn’t know he could. If he can avg 12/9/1.5 being a threat From three 35%+ I’d be pretty happy.

Right now, the main value he brings is just his size which as I've seen has deterred a bunch of players from even attempting to score in the paint. Deterrence has value. I've also seen him use his length to bother shots which is another good thing.

What does worry me is his quickness which was enough at the college level but at this next level, I don't know if it's quite enough. But perhaps a big part of what makes him look a step slow is just not being in NBA shape. Pretty much every rookie will/does go through an NBA strength and conditioning program and that's why players look in much better condition in the sophomore year than in their rookie year and I think he really needs it more than most.
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Post#150 » by bigfoot » Fri Jul 18, 2025 1:41 am

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sunsbum wrote:I’ll be honest, it took me all about the first quarter watching maluach play to know he needs to put on muscle. He got bullied by a couple of guards right out the gate. When he’s able to hold his own strength wise downlow people are going to stop driving at him like that. He looks a bit more raw than I thought he would be but there was also some glimmer of things he did that I didn’t know he could. If he can avg 12/9/1.5 being a threat From three 35%+ I’d be pretty happy.

Right now, the main value he brings is just his size which as I've seen has deterred a bunch of players from even attempting to score in the paint. Deterrence has value. I've also seen him use his length to bother shots which is another good thing.

What does worry me is his quickness which was enough at the college level but at this next level, I don't know if it's quite enough. But perhaps a big part of what makes him look a step slow is just not being in NBA shape. Pretty much every rookie will/does go through an NBA strength and conditioning program and that's why players look in much better condition in the sophomore year than in their rookie year and I think he really needs it more than most.


Definitely true. Oso certainly looks like he picked up some speed and footwork this year at 23. Give Maluach a strength and conditioning pass. Hell people on this board gave Ayton a low IQ and motor pass for years.
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Post#151 » by Fo-Real » Fri Jul 18, 2025 2:01 pm

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sunsbum wrote:I’ll be honest, it took me all about the first quarter watching maluach play to know he needs to put on muscle. He got bullied by a couple of guards right out the gate. When he’s able to hold his own strength wise downlow people are going to stop driving at him like that. He looks a bit more raw than I thought he would be but there was also some glimmer of things he did that I didn’t know he could. If he can avg 12/9/1.5 being a threat From three 35%+ I’d be pretty happy.

Right now, the main value he brings is just his size which as I've seen has deterred a bunch of players from even attempting to score in the paint. Deterrence has value. I've also seen him use his length to bother shots which is another good thing.

What does worry me is his quickness which was enough at the college level but at this next level, I don't know if it's quite enough. But perhaps a big part of what makes him look a step slow is just not being in NBA shape. Pretty much every rookie will/does go through an NBA strength and conditioning program and that's why players look in much better condition in the sophomore year than in their rookie year and I think he really needs it more than most.


Definitely true. Oso certainly looks like he picked up some speed and footwork this year at 23. Give Maluach a strength and conditioning pass. Hell people on this board gave Ayton a low IQ and motor pass for years.


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Post#152 » by Sunsdeuce » Sun Jul 20, 2025 1:58 am

This makes me so Angry! Why are rookies with no injuries sitting out if highly important experience games

Duane Rankin: Phoenix Suns are resting Ryan Dunn, Oso Ighodaro and rookies Khaman Maluach and Koby Brea for their final 2025 NBA Summer League game against the Portland Trail Blazers tonight in Las Vegas. Rasheer Fleming set to play. Only played in 2 games in Vegas
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Post#153 » by garrick » Sun Jul 20, 2025 2:01 am

Sunsdeuce wrote:This makes me so Angry! Why are rookies with no injuries sitting out if highly important experience games

Duane Rankin: Phoenix Suns are resting Ryan Dunn, Oso Ighodaro and rookies Khaman Maluach and Koby Brea for their final 2025 NBA Summer League game against the Portland Trail Blazers tonight in Las Vegas. Rasheer Fleming set to play. Only played in 2 games in Vegas


My thoughts exactly.

We should play all our rookies even if just one quarter so we can have a better look at them!

The only player I'm watching is Fleming and he looks underwhelming so far.
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Post#154 » by Sunsdeuce » Sun Jul 20, 2025 2:12 am

garrick wrote:
Sunsdeuce wrote:This makes me so Angry! Why are rookies with no injuries sitting out if highly important experience games

Duane Rankin: Phoenix Suns are resting Ryan Dunn, Oso Ighodaro and rookies Khaman Maluach and Koby Brea for their final 2025 NBA Summer League game against the Portland Trail Blazers tonight in Las Vegas. Rasheer Fleming set to play. Only played in 2 games in Vegas


My thoughts exactly.

We should play all our rookies even if just one quarter so we can have a better look at them!

The only player I'm watching is Fleming and he looks underwhelming so far.

Only one Rookie gave a ray of hope in one game. Brea had one good game. Subtract that one game, this has been a disappointing start of a new era so far.
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Post#155 » by KdoubleDees23 » Sun Jul 20, 2025 2:36 am

Sunsdeuce wrote:
garrick wrote:
Sunsdeuce wrote:This makes me so Angry! Why are rookies with no injuries sitting out if highly important experience games

Duane Rankin: Phoenix Suns are resting Ryan Dunn, Oso Ighodaro and rookies Khaman Maluach and Koby Brea for their final 2025 NBA Summer League game against the Portland Trail Blazers tonight in Las Vegas. Rasheer Fleming set to play. Only played in 2 games in Vegas


My thoughts exactly.

We should play all our rookies even if just one quarter so we can have a better look at them!

The only player I'm watching is Fleming and he looks underwhelming so far.

Only one Rookie gave a ray of hope in one game. Brea had one good game. Subtract that one game, this has been a disappointing start of a new era so far.


Suns can’t draft worth anything . U are spot on, they all look like projects and some potential but they aren’t that good
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Post#156 » by Sunsdeuce » Sun Jul 20, 2025 2:42 am

KdoubleDees23 wrote:
Sunsdeuce wrote:
garrick wrote:
My thoughts exactly.

We should play all our rookies even if just one quarter so we can have a better look at them!

The only player I'm watching is Fleming and he looks underwhelming so far.

Only one Rookie gave a ray of hope in one game. Brea had one good game. Subtract that one game, this has been a disappointing start of a new era so far.


Suns can’t draft worth anything . U are spot on, they all look like projects and some potential but they aren’t that good

I’ve always been a big believer, top 10 picks should be immediate contributors. Projects should be late rounders.
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Post#157 » by KdoubleDees23 » Sun Jul 20, 2025 4:19 am

Sunsdeuce wrote:
KdoubleDees23 wrote:
Sunsdeuce wrote:Only one Rookie gave a ray of hope in one game. Brea had one good game. Subtract that one game, this has been a disappointing start of a new era so far.


Suns can’t draft worth anything . U are spot on, they all look like projects and some potential but they aren’t that good

I’ve always been a big believer, top 10 picks should be immediate contributors. Projects should be late rounders.


Agree ! Also why aren’t they playing all summer league ! They aren’t stars !!!
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Post#158 » by sunsbum » Sun Jul 20, 2025 5:24 am

how did rasheer flemming look in this last game? Disappointed he didn't shoot much.
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Post#159 » by sunsbg » Sun Jul 20, 2025 5:27 am

Two rooks didn't play and the one who did had less FGA than 8 of 10 players who got minutes. I understand not risking Dunn injury, but no one else looks as important contributor this season, so what's the point of keeping them out.
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