Summer League 2025

[azwfan]

No idea why they didn’t stay at 41 and draft Raynaud, who literally fell right into their lap.

Toohey looks completely overmatched and not worth a 2way at this point.

Richard is fine for a g-league role player that can probably play NBA minutes eventually without killing your team… but I don’t see him as a needle mover at all.

Post/Raynaud backing up Horford so any Jimmy/Dray/Kuminga moments at the forward spots has a stretch center seems like the obvious move… but Kerr seems to still love Trayce as an offensive roll threat… but even then just roll with an extra center since Horford won’t be around long.

I loved Raynaud but will admit saw very little of other prospects. Either way, not sure why we'd trade 41 before knowing who fell to that pick. Trying to finagle to end of the 2nd round contracts vs 1 early/mid 2nd round pick seems like a bad decision. We needed to get someone who could make the roster on a cheap deal. I get the logic of taking two swings instead of 1. I'd rather take the swing at 41 than two shots in the mid to late 50s.

Agree with this back and forth. Just interjecting that the (bad) trade they made would not have been available during the draft.
Phx was trying to get up to 31 and they were consolidating whatever they could to get up there. They offered several different packages to Minnesota for 31 and ultimately Minnesota took the package that did not include 41, but Phx wanted that pick to offer and negotiate with. Minnesota (rightly) didnt want the 2 50’s picks Phx had.

[TB]

No idea why they didn’t stay at 41 and draft Raynaud, who literally fell right into their lap.

Toohey looks completely overmatched and not worth a 2way at this point.

Richard is fine for a g-league role player that can probably play NBA minutes eventually without killing your team… but I don’t see him as a needle mover at all.

Post/Raynaud backing up Horford so any Jimmy/Dray/Kuminga moments at the forward spots has a stretch center seems like the obvious move… but Kerr seems to still love Trayce as an offensive roll threat… but even then just roll with an extra center since Horford won’t be around long.

I loved Raynaud but will admit saw very little of other prospects. Either way, not sure why we'd trade 41 before knowing who fell to that pick. Trying to finagle to end of the 2nd round contracts vs 1 early/mid 2nd round pick seems like a bad decision. We needed to get someone who could make the roster on a cheap deal. I get the logic of taking two swings instead of 1. I'd rather take the swing at 41 than two shots in the mid to late 50s.

Agree with this back and forth. Just interjecting that the (bad) trade they made would not have been available during the draft.
Phx was trying to get up to 31 and they were consolidating whatever they could to get up there. They offered several different packages to Minnesota for 31 and ultimately Minnesota took the package that did not include 41, but Phx wanted that pick to offer and negotiate with. Minnesota (rightly) didnt want the 2 50’s picks Phx had.

Good clarification on the timing of our trade back before 2nd round started. And like you also mentioned, I still see it as an awful decision with great fits like Raynaud and Proctor and Peavy potentially being there at 41.

On that topic, Proctor and Raynaud looking great again right now in summer league.

[Onus]

No idea why they didn’t stay at 41 and draft Raynaud, who literally fell right into their lap.

Toohey looks completely overmatched and not worth a 2way at this point.

Richard is fine for a g-league role player that can probably play NBA minutes eventually without killing your team… but I don’t see him as a needle mover at all.

Post/Raynaud backing up Horford so any Jimmy/Dray/Kuminga moments at the forward spots has a stretch center seems like the obvious move… but Kerr seems to still love Trayce as an offensive roll threat… but even then just roll with an extra center since Horford won’t be around long.

The trade had already been done well before they got that far in the second round…… it’s an interesting thought exercise of “would the Warriors still have made the deal, if they knew Raynard (as well as Brea) would be available at #41”. But they never had the question to contemplate, as it was already completed.

I agree with your assessment of both Toohey and Richard at this point. I don’t see anything to suggest that they’re going to be able to contribute anything to the big club this year, nor a whole heck of a lot of upside for the future.

To me they traded for 2 2nds because they were worried that JK might get a big offer that they would have to match so they wanted to cover their bases that they would be able to match and sign 2 2nd rd picks rather than just 1 to fill out the roster space. I don't think they expected whomever they drafted would be a part of the rotation this year or next. They said they only saw 1 player who would and they looked into trading up for him.

JK's RFA so far has cost us 41 and a shot at Bradley Beal.

[vvoland]

No idea why they didn’t stay at 41 and draft Raynaud, who literally fell right into their lap.

Toohey looks completely overmatched and not worth a 2way at this point.

Richard is fine for a g-league role player that can probably play NBA minutes eventually without killing your team… but I don’t see him as a needle mover at all.

Post/Raynaud backing up Horford so any Jimmy/Dray/Kuminga moments at the forward spots has a stretch center seems like the obvious move… but Kerr seems to still love Trayce as an offensive roll threat… but even then just roll with an extra center since Horford won’t be around long.

The trade had already been done well before they got that far in the second round…… it’s an interesting thought exercise of “would the Warriors still have made the deal, if they knew Raynard (as well as Brea) would be available at #41”. But they never had the question to contemplate, as it was already completed.

I agree with your assessment of both Toohey and Richard at this point. I don’t see anything to suggest that they’re going to be able to contribute anything to the big club this year, nor a whole heck of a lot of upside for the future.

To me they traded for 2 2nds because they were worried that JK might get a big offer that they would have to match so they wanted to cover their bases that they would be able to match and sign 2 2nd rd picks rather than just 1 to fill out the roster space. I don't think they expected whomever they drafted would be a part of the rotation this year or next. They said they only saw 1 player who would and they looked into trading up for him.

JK's RFA so far has cost us 41 and a shot at Bradley Beal.

If that's true, MDJ is not very good at this job.

Most of this board, as long ago as last summer, had a strong conviction that JK has few/no options this summer. After BKN made all 5 picks in the 1st and took on MPJ, I'm not sure that logic holds up. By the time we traded 41, we should have known, or at least had a very good inclination, that JK was going to see a very depressed market.

[Onus]

The trade had already been done well before they got that far in the second round…… it’s an interesting thought exercise of “would the Warriors still have made the deal, if they knew Raynard (as well as Brea) would be available at #41”. But they never had the question to contemplate, as it was already completed.

I agree with your assessment of both Toohey and Richard at this point. I don’t see anything to suggest that they’re going to be able to contribute anything to the big club this year, nor a whole heck of a lot of upside for the future.

To me they traded for 2 2nds because they were worried that JK might get a big offer that they would have to match so they wanted to cover their bases that they would be able to match and sign 2 2nd rd picks rather than just 1 to fill out the roster space. I don't think they expected whomever they drafted would be a part of the rotation this year or next. They said they only saw 1 player who would and they looked into trading up for him.

JK's RFA so far has cost us 41 and a shot at Bradley Beal.

If that's true, MDJ is not very good at this job.

Most of this board, as long ago as last summer, had a strong conviction that JK has few/no options this summer. After BKN made all 5 picks in the 1st and took on MPJ, I'm not sure that logic holds up. By the time we traded 41, we should have known, or at least had a very good inclination, that JK was going to see a very depressed market.

We made the trade before day 2 of the draft. Free agency hadn’t started yet. Teams could always cut salary if they needed to, to make an offer. Mdj protected himself against that and still is which is why horford and melton haven’t officially signed even though it’s a foregone conclusion that they are signing with the warriors.

[vvoland]

To me they traded for 2 2nds because they were worried that JK might get a big offer that they would have to match so they wanted to cover their bases that they would be able to match and sign 2 2nd rd picks rather than just 1 to fill out the roster space. I don't think they expected whomever they drafted would be a part of the rotation this year or next. They said they only saw 1 player who would and they looked into trading up for him.

JK's RFA so far has cost us 41 and a shot at Bradley Beal.

If that's true, MDJ is not very good at this job.

Most of this board, as long ago as last summer, had a strong conviction that JK has few/no options this summer. After BKN made all 5 picks in the 1st and took on MPJ, I'm not sure that logic holds up. By the time we traded 41, we should have known, or at least had a very good inclination, that JK was going to see a very depressed market.

We made the trade before day 2 of the draft. Free agency hadn’t started yet. Teams could always cut salary if they needed to, to make an offer. Mdj protected himself against that and still is which is why horford and melton haven’t officially signed even though it’s a foregone conclusion that they are signing with the warriors.

I thought most of the trades were, though not official, known by the time of round 1. I may be wrong as the earliest I could find for the MPJ news was the 30th and the draft ended on the 26th.

[Onus]

If that's true, MDJ is not very good at this job.

Most of this board, as long ago as last summer, had a strong conviction that JK has few/no options this summer. After BKN made all 5 picks in the 1st and took on MPJ, I'm not sure that logic holds up. By the time we traded 41, we should have known, or at least had a very good inclination, that JK was going to see a very depressed market.

We made the trade before day 2 of the draft. Free agency hadn’t started yet. Teams could always cut salary if they needed to, to make an offer. Mdj protected himself against that and still is which is why horford and melton haven’t officially signed even though it’s a foregone conclusion that they are signing with the warriors.

I thought most of the trades were, though not official, known by the time of round 1. I may be wrong as the earliest I could find for the MPJ news was the 30th and the draft ended on the 26th.

Free agency started July 1st. The draft was June 25-26. Our trade was on June 26.

[whatisacenter]

Jamir Watkins just had another nice game....8 steals in a game a couple of days ago and another 5 today.

[whatisacenter]

Mobley revenge game? LOL

#36 drives me crazy...

[CS707]

Might be the most boring summer league squad I’ve ever watched.

[whatisacenter]

Might be the most boring summer league squad I’ve ever watched.

The fact that I'm watching might be a sign that I have problem.

[floppymoose]

I think i picked a good time to let go of my live tv. Directtv had hiked my rate to 120 a month. Bye bye tv!

[CS707]

I think i picked a good time to let go of my live tv. Directtv had hiked my rate to 120 a month. Bye bye tv!

I slacked so by the time I would see any savings, the NFL season will be kicking off.

[floppymoose]

Yeah, for years mine was 45 a month. In theory i was grandfathered into that rate indefinitely if i didnt change my subscription. But it seems that was a lie. I doubt i will ever subscribe to live tv again.

[CS707]

I tried skipping the live TV but 80 percent of what I watch is sports and it’s hard to get local stuff without it. I’m not very savvy with the illegal streaming and it’s always more pain than it’s worth when I do it.

[marthafokker]

We made the trade before day 2 of the draft. Free agency hadn’t started yet. Teams could always cut salary if they needed to, to make an offer. Mdj protected himself against that and still is which is why horford and melton haven’t officially signed even though it’s a foregone conclusion that they are signing with the warriors.

I thought most of the trades were, though not official, known by the time of round 1. I may be wrong as the earliest I could find for the MPJ news was the 30th and the draft ended on the 26th.

Free agency started July 1st. The draft was June 25-26. Our trade was on June 26.

False. The trade did not complete until 7/6. The trade was by agreement only. So not offical until that 7 teams trade was completed.

I wish MDJ would just walk back the trade and stay at 41. I still think Kerr wanted Toohey as his new center.

[azwfan]

One thing Toohey has going for him is that he should have no illusions of becoming a #1 offensive option. Cant afford to have any talented youngsters that want to be great.

[wco81]

How often do teams find players in SL who make the roster unexpectedly? Teams expect their draftees and even some UDFAs to do well in SL. Maybe if they do bad, they don't make the roster? Very unlikely.

I guess ESPN gets to put on something during the summer months, instead of softball or I saw teens play flag football.

You'd think though with the hype the WNBA is now getting, they'd want to maximize the number of those games over SL games.

But maybe SL games are part of the TV package that ESPN is paying billions for.

[whatisacenter]

LOL, the Lakers signed #36 to a 2-way contract.

[ILOVEIT]

Interesting how two or three years in the league affects ballers.
Kuminga and Moody would probably average 25-30 points a game.... yeah?