ATL - Luka Extension - 3/165

[MikeIsGood]

I'd want to walk the line between having the best talent and also making sure you have guys that know their role and are unselfish.

Steph -- not worried, shooting
Jordan -- let him alpha
Durant -- riskiest pick but I think he fits well
Dirk -- not worried, shooting
Hakeem -- not worried, defense + basically everything
--
Giannis -- better than Dirk obv but I want that shooting, and G can come in for literally anyone

[Bucks4005]

Dame ought to be super charitable in the Portland & Milwaukee communities the next couple of yrs. He'll be the highest paid player in the NBA by far, for playing 1 of 2 years, and having been underwhelming for the Bucks.

Kinda weird that we think this. Like, you make a lot of money and are a public figure, so donate it or get judged? I mean, I get it’s a good thing to do, but weird we think of rich public figures as “ought” to do that. I mean, he basically worked his whole life to make every cent he got, he ought to do whatever he wants with his money and not have to worry about what anything says he should do with it.

Not calling you out, but it’s just weird we judge rich people who don’t donate in our society. Like, why should we care what Dame does with his money?

[midranger]

I'd want to walk the line between having the best talent and also making sure you have guys that know their role and are unselfish.

Steph -- not worried, shooting
Jordan -- let him alpha
Durant -- riskiest pick but I think he fits well
Dirk -- not worried, shooting
Hakeem -- not worried, defense + basically everything
--
Giannis -- better than Dirk obv but I want that shooting, and G can come in for literally anyone

Mine was really close to this:

Steph
Jordan
Kawhi
Duncan
Hakeem

Pippen - can defend 4 positions and create

[Prez]

Curry
MJ
KD
Giannis
Jokic

6th man: Bird

[Bernman]

Dame ought to be super charitable in the Portland & Milwaukee communities the next couple of yrs. He'll be the highest paid player in the NBA by far, for playing 1 of 2 years, and having been underwhelming for the Bucks.

Kinda weird that we think this. Like, you make a lot of money and are a public figure, so donate it or get judged? I mean, I get it’s a good thing to do, but weird we think of rich public figures as “ought” to do that. I mean, he basically worked his whole life to make every cent he got, he ought to do whatever he wants with his money and not have to worry about what anything says he should do with it.

Not calling you out, but it’s just weird we judge rich people who don’t donate in our society. Like, why should we care what Dame does with his money?

No, you're calling me out. I'll call you out - try to be more nuanced. Look at things on case-by-case bases, and not so prejudicial to your bias.

In this case, he's the highest paid NBA player because of a loophole where he got waived, in part cuz he underwhelmed, and then double-dipped. It's a silly rule & ironic thing to be rewarded extra for. I didn't say it about Giannis. He got paid that (still less than Dame) cuz he's very good.

[MikeIsGood]

I'd want to walk the line between having the best talent and also making sure you have guys that know their role and are unselfish.

Steph -- not worried, shooting
Jordan -- let him alpha
Durant -- riskiest pick but I think he fits well
Dirk -- not worried, shooting
Hakeem -- not worried, defense + basically everything
--
Giannis -- better than Dirk obv but I want that shooting, and G can come in for literally anyone

Mine was really close to this:

Steph
Jordan
Kawhi
Duncan
Hakeem

Pippen - can defend 4 positions and create

Bananas defense + Steph is not a bad approach.

[MickeyDavis]

Dame ought to be super charitable in the Portland & Milwaukee communities the next couple of yrs. He'll be the highest paid player in the NBA by far, for playing 1 of 2 years, and having been underwhelming for the Bucks.

Kinda weird that we think this. Like, you make a lot of money and are a public figure, so donate it or get judged? I mean, I get it’s a good thing to do, but weird we think of rich public figures as “ought” to do that. I mean, he basically worked his whole life to make every cent he got, he ought to do whatever he wants with his money and not have to worry about what anything says he should do with it.

Not calling you out, but it’s just weird we judge rich people who don’t donate in our society. Like, why should we care what Dame does with his money?

No, you're calling me out. I'll call you out - try to be more nuanced. Look at things on case-by-case bases, and not so prejudicial to your bias.

In this case, he's the highest paid NBA player because of a loophole where he got waived, in part cuz he underwhelmed, and then double-dipped. It's a silly rule & ironic thing to be rewarded extra for. I didn't say it about Giannis. He got paid that (still less than Dame) cuz he's very good.

I guess you missed the response from someone in Portland.

It's presumptuous to say what Dame "ought to" do when you don't know.

Dame ought to be super charitable in the Portland & Milwaukee communities the next couple of yrs. He'll be the highest paid player in the NBA by far, for playing 1 of 2 years, and having been underwhelming for the Bucks.

Dame has always been incredibly charitable in the Portland community. Usually doing a lot of things that he purposefully doesn't want press over, but gets talked about by some reporters who are close to him and know about his charities he gives to.

[Bucks4005]

Dame ought to be super charitable in the Portland & Milwaukee communities the next couple of yrs. He'll be the highest paid player in the NBA by far, for playing 1 of 2 years, and having been underwhelming for the Bucks.

Kinda weird that we think this. Like, you make a lot of money and are a public figure, so donate it or get judged? I mean, I get it’s a good thing to do, but weird we think of rich public figures as “ought” to do that. I mean, he basically worked his whole life to make every cent he got, he ought to do whatever he wants with his money and not have to worry about what anything says he should do with it.

Not calling you out, but it’s just weird we judge rich people who don’t donate in our society. Like, why should we care what Dame does with his money?

No, you're calling me out. I'll call you out - try to be more nuanced. Look at things on case-by-case bases, and not so prejudicial to your bias.

In this case, he's the highest paid NBA player because of a loophole where he got waived, in part cuz he underwhelmed, and then double-dipped. It's a silly rule & ironic thing to be rewarded extra for. I didn't say it about Giannis. He got paid that (still less than Dame) cuz he's very good.

Why does it matter he double dipped at all? Why does it matter he’s the highest paid player? I mean, it’s weird to care about that at all. He got offered and accepted the contracts he was offered. What he does off the court with his salary, why should any of us care as long as it’s not something illegal that harms other people? His reward was the salary he gotoffered for a job. I mean, if I got fired with a severance, and then got a new job, do I look at that as a reward? No, it’s just my salary that I earned for the work I’ve done, it not really a reward. Isn’t that the same thing that that happened with Dame? Fired from the Bucks with severance, making a new salary at a new job? Would, I be expected to donate my extra money because I’m making extra from my severance and my salary on top of it? No? Then why should I expect someone else to it?

I mean, you can dislike the me fact he got offered the contract and think he made too much, how he had a large impact on the cap, competitive basketball reasons that affected how the Bucks are able to compete as a fan, but even then it’s his money. I’m just pointing out that society in general expects the rich to help the poor type mentality, and I was just wondering why we expect that from athetes when, really we shouldn’t care about that. Again, his money, what he does off the court as long as it not actively harming the world, w/e, what he ought to do with or without the money he signed a contract for isn’t really any of my concern.

[Bernman]

Kinda weird that we think this. Like, you make a lot of money and are a public figure, so donate it or get judged? I mean, I get it’s a good thing to do, but weird we think of rich public figures as “ought” to do that. I mean, he basically worked his whole life to make every cent he got, he ought to do whatever he wants with his money and not have to worry about what anything says he should do with it.

Not calling you out, but it’s just weird we judge rich people who don’t donate in our society. Like, why should we care what Dame does with his money?

No, you're calling me out. I'll call you out - try to be more nuanced. Look at things on case-by-case bases, and not so prejudicial to your bias.

In this case, he's the highest paid NBA player because of a loophole where he got waived, in part cuz he underwhelmed, and then double-dipped. It's a silly rule & ironic thing to be rewarded extra for. I didn't say it about Giannis. He got paid that (still less than Dame) cuz he's very good.

I guess you missed the response from someone in Portland.

It's presumptuous to say what Dame "ought to" do when you don't know.

Dame ought to be super charitable in the Portland & Milwaukee communities the next couple of yrs. He'll be the highest paid player in the NBA by far, for playing 1 of 2 years, and having been underwhelming for the Bucks.

Dame has always been incredibly charitable in the Portland community. Usually doing a lot of things that he purposefully doesn't want press over, but gets talked about by some reporters who are close to him and know about his charities he gives to.

That doesn't in any way refute what I said. I made no presumption what he would or wouldn't do. Just made a point cuz he got 14 million extra, in part because we were 3.5 points better w/out him on the court last yr. If he played d, went after boards/loose balls, & could play w/ other top options, I doubt they'd have waived him, regardless of the injury. They were already talking about trading him cuz it wasn't working out.

[MickeyDavis]

Dame "ought to be super charitable"

Damian Lillard is actively involved with several charitable initiatives, most notably through The Lillard Foundation, which focuses on the personal and athletic growth of Oregon's youth. He also supports various other causes, including the Special Olympics Oregon, the Maurice Lucas Foundation, and has been recognized for his community impact.

Special Olympics Oregon:
Lillard has been a Global Ambassador for Special Olympics Oregon since 2013, participating in events, camps, and fundraising activities, according to Special Olympics Oregon.
Maurice Lucas Foundation:
Lillard is a steadfast supporter of this foundation, which champions the well-being of students and families. He was recently awarded the first-ever Bill Walton Community Impact Award by the foundation, recognizing his community engagement

I'm not a fan of being judgemental without knowing anything, whether it's Dame or anyone else. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Bernman]

Why does it matter he double dipped at all? Why does it matter he’s the highest paid player? I mean, it’s weird to care about that at all. He got offered and accepted the contracts he was offered. What he does off the court with his salary, why should any of us care as long as it’s not something illegal that harms other people? His reward was the salary he gotoffered for a job. I mean, if I got fired with a severance, and then got a new job, do I look at that as a reward? No, it’s just my salary that I earned for the work I’ve done, it not really a reward. Isn’t that the same thing that that happened with Dame? Fired from the Bucks with severance, making a new salary at a new job? Would, I be expected to donate my extra money because I’m making extra from my severance and my salary on top of it? No? Then why should I expect someone else to it?

I mean, you can dislike the me fact he got offered the contract and think he made too much, how he had a large impact on the cap, competitive basketball reasons that affected how the Bucks are able to compete as a fan, but even then it’s his money. I’m just pointing out that society in general expects the rich to help the poor type mentality, and I was just wondering why we expect that from athetes when, really we shouldn’t care about that. Again, his money, what he does off the court as long as it not actively harming the world, w/e, what he ought to do with or without the money he signed a contract for isn’t really any of my concern.

So you admit you have an agenda that has nothing to do w/ bball. I was keeping it to sport & the fact that's a goofy rule. The alternative, I guess, is the $ should go back to billionaires, which sounds like it'd appease you by your general philosophy, actually. So what's the problem?

[Bernman]

Dame "ought to be super charitable"

Damian Lillard is actively involved with several charitable initiatives, most notably through The Lillard Foundation, which focuses on the personal and athletic growth of Oregon's youth. He also supports various other causes, including the Special Olympics Oregon, the Maurice Lucas Foundation, and has been recognized for his community impact.

Special Olympics Oregon:
Lillard has been a Global Ambassador for Special Olympics Oregon since 2013, participating in events, camps, and fundraising activities, according to Special Olympics Oregon.
Maurice Lucas Foundation:
Lillard is a steadfast supporter of this foundation, which champions the well-being of students and families. He was recently awarded the first-ever Bill Walton Community Impact Award by the foundation, recognizing his community engagement

I'm not a fan of being judgemental without knowing anything, whether it's Dame or anyone else. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What on Earth are you talking about? I wasn't being judgmental at all. I just told you that, if you didn't get the original point. I made no presumption, and it doesn't surprise me that he is. He's a nice guy. I like him personally. He's just getting paid 14 mill extra for not helping a team win, in part.

[Bucks4005]

Why does it matter he double dipped at all? Why does it matter he’s the highest paid player? I mean, it’s weird to care about that at all. He got offered and accepted the contracts he was offered. What he does off the court with his salary, why should any of us care as long as it’s not something illegal that harms other people? His reward was the salary he gotoffered for a job. I mean, if I got fired with a severance, and then got a new job, do I look at that as a reward? No, it’s just my salary that I earned for the work I’ve done, it not really a reward. Isn’t that the same thing that that happened with Dame? Fired from the Bucks with severance, making a new salary at a new job? Would, I be expected to donate my extra money because I’m making extra from my severance and my salary on top of it? No? Then why should I expect someone else to it?

I mean, you can dislike the me fact he got offered the contract and think he made too much, how he had a large impact on the cap, competitive basketball reasons that affected how the Bucks are able to compete as a fan, but even then it’s his money. I’m just pointing out that society in general expects the rich to help the poor type mentality, and I was just wondering why we expect that from athetes when, really we shouldn’t care about that. Again, his money, what he does off the court as long as it not actively harming the world, w/e, what he ought to do with or without the money he signed a contract for isn’t really any of my concern.

So you admit you have an agenda here that has nothing to do w/ basketball. I was keeping it to basketball & the fact that's a goofy rule. The alternative, I guess, is the $ should go back to billionaires, which sounds like it'd appease you by your general philosophy, actually.

You said he ought to charitable in Portland. What’s that got to do with basketball?

[RRyder823]

Why does it matter he double dipped at all? Why does it matter he’s the highest paid player? I mean, it’s weird to care about that at all. He got offered and accepted the contracts he was offered. What he does off the court with his salary, why should any of us care as long as it’s not something illegal that harms other people? His reward was the salary he gotoffered for a job. I mean, if I got fired with a severance, and then got a new job, do I look at that as a reward? No, it’s just my salary that I earned for the work I’ve done, it not really a reward. Isn’t that the same thing that that happened with Dame? Fired from the Bucks with severance, making a new salary at a new job? Would, I be expected to donate my extra money because I’m making extra from my severance and my salary on top of it? No? Then why should I expect someone else to it?

I mean, you can dislike the me fact he got offered the contract and think he made too much, how he had a large impact on the cap, competitive basketball reasons that affected how the Bucks are able to compete as a fan, but even then it’s his money. I’m just pointing out that society in general expects the rich to help the poor type mentality, and I was just wondering why we expect that from athetes when, really we shouldn’t care about that. Again, his money, what he does off the court as long as it not actively harming the world, w/e, what he ought to do with or without the money he signed a contract for isn’t really any of my concern.

So you admit you have an agenda here that has nothing to do w/ basketball. I was keeping it to basketball & the fact that's a goofy rule. The alternative, I guess, is the $ should go back to billionaires, which sounds like it'd appease you by your general philosophy, actually.

The **** you were. You made a statement that he should be extra generous to Portland and Milwaukee based on how much hes going to be paid and now your trying some strange mental gymnastics to bring it to his on court play as to why you said it

Like he said. It's none of your business what he does with his money and its weird for you to care

But in any case, as has been pointed out, he allready is pretty generous with his giving to the Portland community so your more or less trying to be some strange arbiter on deciding whether its good enough or not

And I have zero idea wtf your talking about with the end of your post. He never said, implied or hinted that the $ should go back to billionaires. Like seriously where the **** did you get that?



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[Bernman]

Why does it matter he double dipped at all? Why does it matter he’s the highest paid player? I mean, it’s weird to care about that at all. He got offered and accepted the contracts he was offered. What he does off the court with his salary, why should any of us care as long as it’s not something illegal that harms other people? His reward was the salary he gotoffered for a job. I mean, if I got fired with a severance, and then got a new job, do I look at that as a reward? No, it’s just my salary that I earned for the work I’ve done, it not really a reward. Isn’t that the same thing that that happened with Dame? Fired from the Bucks with severance, making a new salary at a new job? Would, I be expected to donate my extra money because I’m making extra from my severance and my salary on top of it? No? Then why should I expect someone else to it?

I mean, you can dislike the me fact he got offered the contract and think he made too much, how he had a large impact on the cap, competitive basketball reasons that affected how the Bucks are able to compete as a fan, but even then it’s his money. I’m just pointing out that society in general expects the rich to help the poor type mentality, and I was just wondering why we expect that from athetes when, really we shouldn’t care about that. Again, his money, what he does off the court as long as it not actively harming the world, w/e, what he ought to do with or without the money he signed a contract for isn’t really any of my concern.

So you admit you have an agenda here that has nothing to do w/ basketball. I was keeping it to basketball & the fact that's a goofy rule. The alternative, I guess, is the $ should go back to billionaires, which sounds like it'd appease you by your general philosophy, actually.

The **** you were. You made a statement that he should be extra generous to Portland and Milwaukee based on how much hes going to be paid and now your trying some strange mental gymnastics to bring it to his on court play as to why you said it

Like he said. It's none of your business what he does with his money and its weird for you to care

But in any case, as has been pointed out, he allready is pretty generous with his giving to the Portland community so your more or less trying to be some strange arbiter on deciding whether its good enough or not



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The f**k I did. That's literally why I said it - cuz he got waived in part because he was underwhelming here & in the NBA there's a loophole that if you get waived you can double-dip, where if you don't get waived cuz you were good at bball you just get the 1 salary.

[KidA24]

Curious if you could have any starting five with the addition of a sixth man... all-time...who are you guys picking?

Steph
Magic
Bird
LeBron
Jokic

I guess we can bring MJ off the bench.

[Bernman]

Why does it matter he double dipped at all? Why does it matter he’s the highest paid player? I mean, it’s weird to care about that at all. He got offered and accepted the contracts he was offered. What he does off the court with his salary, why should any of us care as long as it’s not something illegal that harms other people? His reward was the salary he gotoffered for a job. I mean, if I got fired with a severance, and then got a new job, do I look at that as a reward? No, it’s just my salary that I earned for the work I’ve done, it not really a reward. Isn’t that the same thing that that happened with Dame? Fired from the Bucks with severance, making a new salary at a new job? Would, I be expected to donate my extra money because I’m making extra from my severance and my salary on top of it? No? Then why should I expect someone else to it?

I mean, you can dislike the me fact he got offered the contract and think he made too much, how he had a large impact on the cap, competitive basketball reasons that affected how the Bucks are able to compete as a fan, but even then it’s his money. I’m just pointing out that society in general expects the rich to help the poor type mentality, and I was just wondering why we expect that from athetes when, really we shouldn’t care about that. Again, his money, what he does off the court as long as it not actively harming the world, w/e, what he ought to do with or without the money he signed a contract for isn’t really any of my concern.

So you admit you have an agenda here that has nothing to do w/ basketball. I was keeping it to basketball & the fact that's a goofy rule. The alternative, I guess, is the $ should go back to billionaires, which sounds like it'd appease you by your general philosophy, actually.

You said he ought to charitable in Portland. What’s that got to do with basketball?

He got 14 million extra for not being very good at basketball w/ the Bucks.

[midranger]

[RRyder823]

So you admit you have an agenda here that has nothing to do w/ basketball. I was keeping it to basketball & the fact that's a goofy rule. The alternative, I guess, is the $ should go back to billionaires, which sounds like it'd appease you by your general philosophy, actually.

The **** you were. You made a statement that he should be extra generous to Portland and Milwaukee based on how much hes going to be paid and now your trying some strange mental gymnastics to bring it to his on court play as to why you said it

Like he said. It's none of your business what he does with his money and its weird for you to care

But in any case, as has been pointed out, he allready is pretty generous with his giving to the Portland community so your more or less trying to be some strange arbiter on deciding whether its good enough or not



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The f**k I did. That's literally why I said it - cuz he got waived in part because he was underwhelming here & in the NBA there's a loophole that if you get waived you can double-dip, where if you don't get waived cuz you were good at bball you just get the 1 salary.

Keep digging that hole

You made a statement about what you think an athlete that you view as being overpaid should do with their money

He made the counter point of "Why do you care what he does with his money?"

Conflate your "basketball reasons" with the 1st part all you want but in the end you're still just saying that since he made out great in the situation that means he should give it back

So his question remains. Why do you care?

My question is who are you to tell anyone what they should do with their money?

And if we really want to get detailed how much should he give on top with what he allready does since that's not enough apparently?

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[Bernman]

The **** you were. You made a statement that he should be extra generous to Portland and Milwaukee based on how much hes going to be paid and now your trying some strange mental gymnastics to bring it to his on court play as to why you said it

Like he said. It's none of your business what he does with his money and its weird for you to care

But in any case, as has been pointed out, he allready is pretty generous with his giving to the Portland community so your more or less trying to be some strange arbiter on deciding whether its good enough or not



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The f**k I did. That's literally why I said it - cuz he got waived in part because he was underwhelming here & in the NBA there's a loophole that if you get waived you can double-dip, where if you don't get waived cuz you were good at bball you just get the 1 salary.

Keep digging that hole

You made a statement about what you think an athlete that you view as being overpaid should do with their money

He made the counter point of "Why do you care what he does with his money?"

Conflate your "basketball reasons" with the 1st part all you want but in the end you're still just saying that since he made out great in the situation that means he should give it back

So his question remains. Why do you care?

My question is who are you to tell anyone what they should do with their money?

And if we really want to get detailed how much should he give on top with what he allready does since that's not enough apparently?

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14 million. Beyond that I don't care what he does, because I didn't before. I said nothing about it when he was just laid up getting his original salary.