Trades and Transactions 2025 IV

[Richard4444]

I would take a flyer on Blake Wesley. He was just waived by Washington. I liked his upside coming out of college.

We don't have apron space or roster spots for flyers.

[Jonathan2347]

Seems like there is traction with Ben Simmons. We can definitely use him for 15 mpg off the bench. Can playmaker, defend, and rebound.

Brunson/Clarkson
Duece/Hart
Bridges/Yabu
OG/Simmons
Towns/Mitch


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[BowlRips]

Seems like there is traction with Ben Simmons. We can definitely use him for 15 mpg off the bench. Can playmaker, defend, and rebound.

Brunson/Clarkson
Duece/Hart
Bridges/Yabu
OG/Simmons
Towns/Mitch


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I really don't think in the modern NBA you can have a bench lineup made up of 3/5 non-shooters, especially if the other 2 players are average shooters at best. Wouldn't get the Simmons move unless theres more to come

[Jonathan2347]

Seems like there is traction with Ben Simmons. We can definitely use him for 15 mpg off the bench. Can playmaker, defend, and rebound.

Brunson/Clarkson
Duece/Hart
Bridges/Yabu
OG/Simmons
Towns/Mitch


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I really don't think in the modern NBA you can have a bench lineup made up of 3/5 non-shooters, especially if the other 2 players are average shooters at best. Wouldn't get the Simmons move unless theres more to come

A good coach wouldn't have the entire bench unit on at the same time. The point is to mix and match and stagger lineups.

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[Jonathan2347]

Seems like there is traction with Ben Simmons. We can definitely use him for 15 mpg off the bench. Can playmaker, defend, and rebound.

Brunson/Clarkson
Duece/Hart
Bridges/Yabu
OG/Simmons
Towns/Mitch


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I really don't think in the modern NBA you can have a bench lineup made up of 3/5 non-shooters, especially if the other 2 players are average shooters at best. Wouldn't get the Simmons move unless theres more to come

You should see lineups of

Clarkson
Bridges
OG
Simmons
Towns

Brunson
Hart
Bridges
Yabu
Towns

Brunson
Duece
OG
Simmons
Towns

Brunson
Clarkson
Bridges
Towns
Mitch


Etc...

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[Knicksfan1992]

Think Ben will ultimately end up in PHX. They don't really have an established PG on the roster right now unless you count Booker as a PG. They have enough shooting around him that he wont have to worry as much about spacing and they can use his defense.

With us, the fit inherently gets a little wonkier with our bench's shooting ability. There's almost no pathway for him to start with us unless Mike Brown gets super creative or *gulps* desperate at some point

I think he has a much more clear path to playing time there, then he will here. They'll probably be somewhat competitive in the play in race and he can maybe play himself into a bigger deal next year.

With us he's basically going to be a 10-20 minute a night defensive specialist who can up the pace a bit on offense.

[WargamesX]

Seems like there is traction with Ben Simmons. We can definitely use him for 15 mpg off the bench. Can playmaker, defend, and rebound.

Brunson/Clarkson
Duece/Hart
Bridges/Yabu
OG/Simmons
Towns/Mitch


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I really don't think in the modern NBA you can have a bench lineup made up of 3/5 non-shooters, especially if the other 2 players are average shooters at best. Wouldn't get the Simmons move unless theres more to come

A good coach wouldn't have the entire bench unit on at the same time. The point is to mix and match and stagger lineups.

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Thibs really didnt do that a lot so I could see why people forgot….

Even when we were deep he liked to have the bench guys come in for synergy and to speed the game up due to them having more energy. It was one of those subtle decisions that led to certain players having high minutes.

[KnixinSix]

Well up until last season, which for what is worth was our best season the Knicks were known to be grit, play above our "on paper" talent level and played defense

Either way we have a new coach now. In theory he should be an upgrade/better fit for the
current roster construction of this team than Thibs was.

I agree. I was just answering the question. This last season as crazy as it sounds felt like our worst season. I felt like we had great talent yet couldn't beat anyone hood all year. I spent most of the season pissed off and then we had that run in the playoffs. Beating the Celtics was just so crazy. But I just cant forget how bad it felt all season. Going like 0-11 vs teams ahead of us in the standings and not too great vs teams over .500 in general. I know depth and rookie play get all the attention around here but I dont even think Thibs managed the starting 5 that great its amazing we somehow beat enough bad teams to still end up the 3rd seed. Then obviously we played well ( overall) in the playoffs.

I agree though. I think Brown will have us play better

Its time to see what can Brown do for you...

[KnixinSix]

I really don't think in the modern NBA you can have a bench lineup made up of 3/5 non-shooters, especially if the other 2 players are average shooters at best. Wouldn't get the Simmons move unless theres more to come

A good coach wouldn't have the entire bench unit on at the same time. The point is to mix and match and stagger lineups.

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Thibs really didnt do that a lot so I could see why people forgot….

Even when we were deep he liked to have the bench guys come in for synergy and to speed the game up due to them having more energy. It was one of those subtle decisions that led to certain players having high minutes.

Thibs didn't do that much because the starters were playing closer to 40 minutes a night each lololol

There was no way to get your starters that many minutes if he is playing the entire bench at the same time.

[WargamesX]

A good coach wouldn't have the entire bench unit on at the same time. The point is to mix and match and stagger lineups.

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Thibs really didnt do that a lot so I could see why people forgot….

Even when we were deep he liked to have the bench guys come in for synergy and to speed the game up due to them having more energy. It was one of those subtle decisions that led to certain players having high minutes.

Thibs didn't do that much because the starters were playing closer to 40 minutes a night each lololol

There was no way to get your starters that many minutes if he is playing the entire bench at the same time.

Last year was absurd, but prior seasons he would bring the bench guys in together. I think Hart might have been the only guy he played like a sixth man and a lot of that was because he and RJ’s game clashed a lot because they do a lot of the same things so he staggered them.

Last year was such a bad year for him I get why people forget he use to try and not lean into his worse coaching impulses.

[thebuzzardman]

Knicks handcuffing themselves for the Giannis trade that is never coming

[WaltFrazier]

Seems like there is traction with Ben Simmons. We can definitely use him for 15 mpg off the bench. Can playmaker, defend, and rebound.

Brunson/Clarkson
Duece/Hart
Bridges/Yabu
OG/Simmons
Towns/Mitch


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I really don't think in the modern NBA you can have a bench lineup made up of 3/5 non-shooters, especially if the other 2 players are average shooters at best. Wouldn't get the Simmons move unless theres more to come

Simmons aside, I don't totally get the thinking that Hart is more suited to a bench role. You need shooting off the bench too. A 6'4 guy needs to be a shooter not just a rebounder

[WaltFrazier]

Think Ben will ultimately end up in PHX. They don't really have an established PG on the roster right now unless you count Booker as a PG. They have enough shooting around him that he wont have to worry as much about spacing and they can use his defense.

With us, the fit inherently gets a little wonkier with our bench's shooting ability. There's almost no pathway for him to start with us unless Mike Brown gets super creative or *gulps* desperate at some point

I think he has a much more clear path to playing time there, then he will here. They'll probably be somewhat competitive in the play in race and he can maybe play himself into a bigger deal next year.

With us he's basically going to be a 10-20 minute a night defensive specialist who can up the pace a bit on offense.

But is Simmons motivated to go where he'd get more minutes?

I don't know if he's driven by playing time, or wanting to win, or what drives him. If anything

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

Seems like there is traction with Ben Simmons. We can definitely use him for 15 mpg off the bench. Can playmaker, defend, and rebound.

Brunson/Clarkson
Duece/Hart
Bridges/Yabu
OG/Simmons
Towns/Mitch


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I really don't think in the modern NBA you can have a bench lineup made up of 3/5 non-shooters, especially if the other 2 players are average shooters at best. Wouldn't get the Simmons move unless theres more to come

Simmons aside, I don't totally get the thinking that Hart is more suited to a bench role. You need shooting off the bench too. A 6'4 guy needs to be a shooter not just a rebounder

Rodman tho

[Adelheid]

Think Ben will ultimately end up in PHX. They don't really have an established PG on the roster right now unless you count Booker as a PG. They have enough shooting around him that he wont have to worry as much about spacing and they can use his defense.

With us, the fit inherently gets a little wonkier with our bench's shooting ability. There's almost no pathway for him to start with us unless Mike Brown gets super creative or *gulps* desperate at some point

I think he has a much more clear path to playing time there, then he will here. They'll probably be somewhat competitive in the play in race and he can maybe play himself into a bigger deal next year.

With us he's basically going to be a 10-20 minute a night defensive specialist who can up the pace a bit on offense.

But is Simmons motivated to go where he'd get more minutes?

I don't know if he's driven by playing time, or wanting to win, or what drives him. If anything

he is motivated to get money to sustain his lifestyle

[thebuzzardman]

Truly the basketball doldrums right now

[KnicksGadfly]

I heard Malcolm Brogdon listed as an option. I’d prefer a wing but he’s not a bad option.

[JXL]

The dead zone of the offseason before the schedule comes out. Boring asf.

[KnixinSix]

Ben in theory fills the dynamics this team needs most. Strong ball handler, length to defend 1 to 5. Strong perimeter defense and switching ability. Even some limited rim protection ability.

Obviously character and durability questions but our culture is as good as itgets and may be a great fit for him.

[Moose]

I heard Malcolm Brogdon listed as an option. I’d prefer a wing but he’s not a bad option.

I think Jordan Goodwin is a good target based on the current roster. We need someone to compete for minutes at the backup PG spot and he's a good defender and a solid 3 point shooter.

Based on the current (healthy) roster, this role is maybe an 8-14 minute type of player per night.

And if there are injuries, he has shown enough promise to take on a bigger role.