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Re: ATL - CP3 to Clippers 

Post#1641 » by Ron Swanson » Mon Jul 21, 2025 4:45 pm

I like the Clippers' roster.

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Re: ATL - Smart Bought Out, Signs with Lakers 

Post#1642 » by Profound23 » Mon Jul 21, 2025 4:51 pm

Frank Nova wrote:Curry
Jordan
McGrady
Durant
Giannis

Kobe



I said

Magic
MJ
Lebron
Duncan
Kareem (struggled with this position the most between Kareem/Shaq/Hakeem)

and Curry as 6th man to play the super John Paxson/Steve Kerr role. I considered Kobe here but they needed at least one shooter.
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Re: ATL - Smart Bought Out, Signs with Lakers 

Post#1643 » by DingleJerry » Mon Jul 21, 2025 5:43 pm

Profound23 wrote:
Frank Nova wrote:Curry
Jordan
McGrady
Durant
Giannis

Kobe



I said

Magic
MJ
Lebron
Duncan
Kareem (struggled with this position the most between Kareem/Shaq/Hakeem)

and Curry as 6th man to play the super John Paxson/Steve Kerr role. I considered Kobe here but they needed at least one shooter.


As I was scrolling through these I couldn't believe no one had LBJ, until this last post that is. He's the 2nd best player ever with no holes in his game and in prime was the best defender in the world. I do get that his style of play can make it tough though being so ball dominant. On a super team you'd want rampant ball movement. But his IQ is there and has always been a willing passer so I think he'd adapt. Also, its not like you couldn't say some of the same negative on MJ

Playing modern rules, I'd probably go
PG: LBJ
SG: Steph
SF: Jordan
PF: Bird
C: Giannis

6th: Durant. Thought Pippen as glue D guy, but think elite D of Giannis/Jordan/LBJ cover so much. Durant can super sub for anyone even as C so I go with him. Note I did this in like 2 mins, so definitely not locked in and might've gone deeper with more time

ETA: though after there could be a logic to bigger G than Steph so that its easy to switch all 5 positions. Then have steph be the 6th man. I guess could go as simple as KD at SF, MJ at SG. Could also look at swapping Bird out for a guy like that too as he'd be the least switchable guy after steph, but I'd think he's switchable enough while being the ultimate team/glue/passing guy with elite shooting.
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Re: ATL - Smart Bought Out, Signs with Lakers 

Post#1644 » by MKE_Hodag22 » Mon Jul 21, 2025 5:52 pm

DingleJerry wrote:
Profound23 wrote:
Frank Nova wrote:Curry
Jordan
McGrady
Durant
Giannis

Kobe



I said

Magic
MJ
Lebron
Duncan
Kareem (struggled with this position the most between Kareem/Shaq/Hakeem)

and Curry as 6th man to play the super John Paxson/Steve Kerr role. I considered Kobe here but they needed at least one shooter.


As I was scrolling through these I couldn't believe no one had LBJ, until this last post that is. He's the 2nd best player ever with no holes in his game and in prime was the best defender in the world. I do get that his style of play can make it tough though being so ball dominant. On a super team you'd want rampant ball movement. But his IQ is there and has always been a willing passer so I think he'd adapt. Also, its not like you couldn't say some of the same negative on MJ

Playing modern rules, I'd probably go
PG: LBJ
SG: Steph
SF: Jordan
PF: Bird
C: Giannis

6th: Durant. Thought Pippen as glue D guy, but think elite D of Giannis/Jordan/LBJ cover so much. Durant can super sub for anyone even as C so I go with him. Note I did this in like 2 mins, so definitely not locked in and might've gone deeper with more time


PG - Steph Curry
SG - Michael Jordan
SF - LeBron James
PF - Kevin Durant
C - Shaquille O'Neal

6th - Kobe Bryant
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Re: ATL - Smart Bought Out, Signs with Lakers 

Post#1645 » by Milbucks96 » Mon Jul 21, 2025 6:02 pm

BucksFanSD wrote:I'm going to change the topic, keep it on Dame for $800. Is Dame a NBA top 75 player? I say no. I say to qualify you have to be at least average level on both offense and defense.

If I’m ranking it like how the nba did and kept the older guys from the original list then no. Without the list in front of me I would definitely have Dwight in over him and I remember feeling like
Dame was the weirdest name on the list as it was basically the 25 best players of the last 25 years added.

But if it’s a straight top 75 I think it would be easy to put him on there. Overall effectiveness is more important to me than being a two way player.
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Re: ATL - CP3 to Clippers 

Post#1646 » by tedbrogen » Mon Jul 21, 2025 6:50 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:I like the Clippers' roster.

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It’ll be an interesting study on whether developing chemistry matters or can you plug and play whichever former stars are healthy. If the former, they are sunk. If the latter, they should usually have a couple guys who can carry the team in the lineup so maybe it works?
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Re: ATL - CP3 to Clippers 

Post#1647 » by RogerMurdock » Mon Jul 21, 2025 6:56 pm

Clippers going for the pre-COVID title.
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Post#1648 » by LISTEN2JAZZ » Mon Jul 21, 2025 7:14 pm

engelmartin wrote:[Yuki's] pretty fun to watch but I’m not sure how that will translate against real nba players. He’s like 5 “8

He's same height as me, and one of the most exciting passers anywhere. Nobody I'd rather root for.
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Re: ATL - CP3 to Clippers 

Post#1649 » by Prez » Mon Jul 21, 2025 7:30 pm

Think the Clippers will mostly be great whenever their rotation is healthy. Lue’s a great coach and their top guys outside of Beal are all guys that have shown the skill set/IQ to mesh alongside other high usage guys.

The main question mark is how many games will those guys actually play together and which of them will fall off a cliff. Because between Harden, CP3, Kawhi, Bogdan, Brook, Batum, Beal, they have like 7 guys in their top 10 that could be a shell of themselves next year and I wouldn’t be super surprised about it. As much as it pains me to say it, I could honestly see it being Brook (among others potentially).
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Re: ATL - Smart Bought Out, Signs with Lakers 

Post#1650 » by paulpressey25 » Mon Jul 21, 2025 8:41 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:Can you guys definitively answer these Dame questions.

Does he lose $11.5 million in actual cash less than he was owed on his bucks deal. Or do the Bucks owe him the full $113 million left?

Does Dame get his Bucks money (whether $113 or $101.5) over the next two years or the next five years?

Do the Bucks get that $2.3 million end of season salary cap relief for only the next two years or the next five years?


Re-upping this because one of you guys has to know the definitive answer. I thought I knew it but then the guest on Locked on Bucks on Saturday had a completely different take.
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Re: ATL - CP3 to Clippers 

Post#1651 » by AussieBuck » Mon Jul 21, 2025 9:56 pm

Curry
West
Durant
Dirk
Giannis

Duncan
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Re: ATL - CP3 to Clippers 

Post#1652 » by Licensed to Il » Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:09 am

AussieBuck wrote:Curry
West
Durant
Dirk
Giannis

Duncan


I think Duncan should be on more of these dream lineups, because while its a projection as to how some stars (Jordan, Lebron, etc) would handle being the third option, there are two guys that proved willing to take any role and rack up wins (Duncan, Magic) and that should count. Duncan played PF, C, was the top option, was physically dominant, was a fading but wily vet… that guy brought value and wins in so many different ways.

FWIW I think Lebron flashed that between his Heat and second Cavs stint.
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Re: ATL - CP3 to Clippers 

Post#1653 » by drew881 » Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:24 am

Clippers can run a Paul, Harden, Leonard, Batum , Lopez lineup whose average age is 36.4 years.
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Re: ATL - CP3 to Clippers 

Post#1654 » by AussieBuck » Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:53 am

Licensed to Il wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:Curry
West
Durant
Dirk
Giannis

Duncan


I think Duncan should be on more of these dream lineups, because while its a projection as to how some stars (Jordan, Lebron, etc) would handle being the third option, there are two guys that proved willing to take any role and rack up wins (Duncan, Magic) and that should count. Duncan played PF, C, was the top option, was physically dominant, was a fading but wily vet… that guy brought value and wins in so many different ways.

FWIW I think Lebron flashed that between his Heat and second Cavs stint.

I think on reflection I'd swap out Durant for Kawhi.
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Re: ATL - CP3 to Clippers 

Post#1655 » by tedbrogen » Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:10 am

drew881 wrote:Clippers can run a Paul, Harden, Leonard, Batum , Lopez lineup whose average age is 36.4 years.


Should have no issues keeping up with the pace OKC plays at.
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Re: ATL - CP3 to Clippers 

Post#1656 » by AussieBuck » Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:21 am

drew881 wrote:Clippers can run a Paul, Harden, Leonard, Batum , Lopez lineup whose average age is 36.4 years.

Eyeballing this, I am surprised at how low that average is. I guess Harden is maybe 35, Leonard must be younger.
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Re: ATL - CP3 to Clippers 

Post#1657 » by engelmartin » Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:21 am

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drew881 wrote:Clippers can run a Paul, Harden, Leonard, Batum , Lopez lineup whose average age is 36.4 years.


Should have no issues keeping up with the pace OKC plays at.

If Lopez just stays under the basket on one side of the court that might benefit everyone. It’s when he’s trying to run up and down that doesn’t work. Sorry Brook I love ya buddy.
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Re: ATL - CP3 to Clippers 

Post#1658 » by tedbrogen » Tue Jul 22, 2025 3:23 am

A true test of how well CP3 can run an offense to have it be 4 on 5 while Brook stands in the paint on the other end.
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Re: ATL - CP3 to Clippers 

Post#1659 » by RiotPunch » Tue Jul 22, 2025 5:22 am

tedbrogen wrote:A true test of how well CP3 can run an offense to have it be 4 on 5 while Brook stands in the paint on the other end.

CP3 and Brook are going to MURDER in the team shuffleboard league, though. They might take bocce ball also.
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Re: ATL - CP3 to Clippers 

Post#1660 » by ShootingtheJ » Tue Jul 22, 2025 11:46 am

drew881 wrote:Clippers can run a Paul, Harden, Leonard, Batum , Lopez lineup whose average age is 36.4 years.


Maybe they go with a youth movement and swap out 1 of these for the 32 year old Bogdan Bogdanovic?

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