2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0

[Thaddy]

I like the way our team is setup as is and I think they deserve until new years to see if the starting 5 can fit.

In the event it doesn’t work out I would love to trade RJ for a veteran backup C and PG. I feel like such a trade would balance the team out perfectly.

Jak/Vet C/Mamu/ Chomche*
Barnes/CMB/Mogbo
BI/Dick/Battle
Agbaji/Walter/Lawson/Martin*
IQ/Shead/Vet PG/Hepburn*

At that point Temple can be cut to make room for the trade and hopefully he calls it quits and joints the coaching staff.


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I know they've been trying to dump RJ Barrett and they too know that his stock can only go down with less PT and less shots with Ingram playing.

It’s a long season and I’d imagine RJ, Barnes and IQ will all take turns being the second option based on matchups and injuries.


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I'd rather have a consistent 2nd option while the other brings strengths on defense with good two way ability. That isn't RJ by any means and we've seen it for years. If he remains with the Raptors I wonder if he could be benched mid season for a better fitting player in the starting line up. RJ doesn't bring defense or 3pt shooting. We have several others who can do that.

Poeltl / Mogbo / Mamu
Barnes / RJ?
Ingram / Agbaji
Walter / Dick
IQ / Shead

We could try going small with him at PF and bring him back as a bench piece / next Temple kind of role. Otherwise I don't see him getting a good contract next year. No one's interested in trading values pieces for him so likely no one offers him a good deal.

[MoneyBall]

Kind of surprised Boucher hasn't signed anywhere yet. Maybe he's asking too much money?

[bluerap23]

SAC gets: RJ, IQ, Ochai, 2026 lottery protected 1st
TOR gets: Lavine, Keegan Murray

Spoiler:

Lavine declines his player option next season and extends at 35M for 3 more seasons. He does this to get out of the messy fit with Demar and Monk and an opportunity to rehabilitate his image/legacy. This leaves enough room to resign Murray as an RFA.

For the Kings, Scott Perry drafted RJ and IQ who are younger and have more tradeable contracts than Lavine. They are desperate for a true PG and don’t trust Schroeder or Carter. They want to build a competitive team around Sabonis in his prime at PF. They will be hunting with Demar or Monk for a C to pair with Sabonis. Ochai is a poor man’s version of Murray and the same age. I would be ok if they wanted Gradey Dick instead of Ochai.

Lavine and BI are among the top of the league at creating for themselves in those crucial 4th quarter minutes. They are protection against each other’s injury histories. Their so-so defense can be hidden with Jak, Scotty, Murray and CMB up front and the new bench mob. The ball might stick to Lavine a bit too much but maybe in the right environment he will buy into the system.

JP/Mamu/Chomche
SB/CMB/Mogbo
Murray/GD/Battle
BI/Walter
Lavine/Shead/Martin

I see Zach as the primary ball handler/distributor with Scottie as the secondary one on offense. On defense, Murray is the primary on ball defender with Scottie as the secondary one. BI is our primary ISO release valve while Zach is our secondary one.

Lavine is also a trade chip at the deadline that can be traded for most other star players (ie Giannis) without adding further salary to match with his 47M (declining with the extension) contract.

It's an interesting deal but I don't know that we need to include a pick. I wouldn't be in a rush to extend Lavine. I may just let him walk. I'd also rather include Gradey over Ochai and I think that makes more sense for them as well. Does this somehow make our starting lineup defence even worse?

[Gold Dragon]

It's an interesting deal but I don't know that we need to include a pick. I wouldn't be in a rush to extend Lavine. I may just let him walk. I'd also rather include Gradey over Ochai and I think that makes more sense for them as well. Does this somehow make our starting lineup defence even worse?

I would love to not include the 1st if that could get Murray.

An extension will allow Lavine to decline his 48M albatross final year. At a more reasonable contract, Lavine has the chance to become a positive asset. It also allows the Raps to stay under the tax and resign Murray as an RFA. Without declining his option we will likely be a 2nd apron team.

I see taking on Lavine as the price to get Murray, a younger OG level point of attack defender with the potential to be more offensively. We really need a player like that on the starting lineup.

I see our eventual 4th Q small ball lineup to be CMB, Murray, BI, Walter, SB. Lavine is the place holder until Walter is ready and can also provide insurance for a BI injury or act as outgoing salary for any potential trades.

I’m not sure the Kings want to make the trade and might put up with Lavine rather than give up Murray. That is why I included the lottery protected 1st.

I see both Murray and Lavine as depressed value assets that have the potential for a lot more and are worth seeing if we can shake them loose from a Kings team wanting to reset their roster.

[Tripod]

That's a massive overpay.

[StopitLeo]

I know they've been trying to dump RJ Barrett and they too know that his stock can only go down with less PT and less shots with Ingram playing.

It’s a long season and I’d imagine RJ, Barnes and IQ will all take turns being the second option based on matchups and injuries.


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I'd rather have a consistent 2nd option while the other brings strengths on defense with good two way ability. That isn't RJ by any means and we've seen it for years. If he remains with the Raptors I wonder if he could be benched mid season for a better fitting player in the starting line up. RJ doesn't bring defense or 3pt shooting. We have several others who can do that.

Poeltl / Mogbo / Mamu
Barnes / RJ?
Ingram / Agbaji
Walter / Dick
IQ / Shead

We could try going small with him at PF and bring him back as a bench piece / next Temple kind of role. Otherwise I don't see him getting a good contract next year. No one's interested in trading values pieces for him so likely no one offers him a good deal.

I think Barnes is clearly the 2nd option.

RJ should be our 6th man and let him feast on opposing bench units.

[bobbyp3588]

It's an interesting deal but I don't know that we need to include a pick. I wouldn't be in a rush to extend Lavine. I may just let him walk. I'd also rather include Gradey over Ochai and I think that makes more sense for them as well. Does this somehow make our starting lineup defence even worse?

I would love to not include the 1st if that could get Murray.

An extension will allow Lavine to decline his 48M albatross final year. At a more reasonable contract, Lavine has the chance to become a positive asset. It also allows the Raps to stay under the tax and resign Murray as an RFA. Without declining his option we will likely be a 2nd apron team.

I see taking on Lavine as the price to get Murray, a younger OG level point of attack defender with the potential to be more offensively. We really need a player like that on the starting lineup.

I see our eventual 4th Q small ball lineup to be CMB, Murray, BI, Walter, SB. Lavine is the place holder until Walter is ready and can also provide insurance for a BI injury or act as outgoing salary for any potential trades.

I’m not sure the Kings want to make the trade and might put up with Lavine rather than give up Murray. That is why I included the lottery protected 1st.

I see both Murray and Lavine as depressed value assets that have the potential for a lot more and are worth seeing if we can shake them loose from a Kings team wanting to reset their roster.

I don’t see it all. Lavine isn’t close to being worth his contract. He’s just not that good at all especially on the defensive end and his health will always be in question. Murray regressed immensely last year. If that’s not an anomaly, RJ and IQ become the two best players in this trade. AND… we give up Ochai and a pick. HARD PASS.

[Gold Dragon]

I don’t see it all. Lavine isn’t close to being worth his contract. He’s just not that good at all especially on the defensive end and his health will always be in question. Murray regressed immensely last year. If that’s not an anomaly, RJ and IQ become the two best players in this trade. AND… we give up Ochai and a pick. HARD PASS.

I agree it is a risky trade that could backfire and is giving up a lot to get depressed assets. But these situations don’t usually present themselves for long. I can also see the scenario where RJ, IQ and Ochai have mediocre to disappointing seasons and become neutral to negative assets themselves.

Lavine will have trade value at 30-35M per year if he agrees to the extension. So it is only one year of not being worth his contract. And hopefully he will be traded onwards by the trade deadline as a positive asset.

I would be fine with Murray staying as he is now and never developing more offensively. I want him more for his POA defense. As an RFA in the offseason, he is likely to be locked in for the next 4-5 years at around $25-30M per year. I think that will be a great long term value going forward even if he does not improve offensively, which I think is unlikely.

Anyway, it is an interesting team building exercise to consider and I totally get people not liking the idea.

[Los_29]

Wow, trade proposals with us getting Lavine? I’m feeling a bit sick just thinking about it.

[Tripod]

We just don't need to take the risk and still wouldn't have a starting PG.

If we really want a POA defender that can shoot 3's in the SL, then Ochai can start as BI, Barnes. IQ, RJ,...will miss games.

Depressed assets shouldn't cost you 2 starters, a bench 3+D and a 1st.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

I'd love if we could find a way to flip IQ for Reaves. I think he's a better fit for what we need at the PG position and he's already shown he can be a playoff riser

Sneaky all star level player thats being suppressed because of the role he has

[DreamTeam09]

I'd love if we could find a way to flip IQ for Reaves. I think he's a better fit for what we need at the PG position and he's already shown he can be a playoff riser

Sneaky all star level player thats being suppressed because of the role he has

Reaves is not a PG, he's even less of a PG than IQ and he gets hunted on defense as evident in the playoffs, Reaves at the 2 might make some sense, but he's also going to command money next summer

[UnbelievablyRAW]

I'd love if we could find a way to flip IQ for Reaves. I think he's a better fit for what we need at the PG position and he's already shown he can be a playoff riser

Sneaky all star level player thats being suppressed because of the role he has

Reaves is not a PG, he's even less of a PG than IQ and he gets hunted on defense as evident in the playoffs, Reaves at the 2 might make some sense, but he's also going to command money next summer

I envision him as a big "PG" next to an Ochai or Walter type as the shooting guard who guards the best defender. IQ will also get hunted on defense and hasn't shown he's much of a man defender since he's been on the Raptors. I think his offensive ceiling has looked MUCH higher than IQ's though. He has similar usage but much better efficiency numbers. If the smallest guy on our starting 5 is 6'5 that's pretty good for our defense

I think he's enough of a playmaker in PnR that it would work with him and Scottie or him and Jak. IQ wasn't a real PG either but got assists just from his usage in our system. RJ even averaged 5 a game in the Darko offense. He averaged the same amount of assists as IQ while playing next to Luka and Bron. Between him and Scottie, thats enough playmaking in the starting lineup and he's enough of a true 3 level scoring threat

[Psubs]

I'd love if we could find a way to flip IQ for Reaves. I think he's a better fit for what we need at the PG position and he's already shown he can be a playoff riser

Sneaky all star level player thats being suppressed because of the role he has

RJ Barrett for Reaves and Kleber

Buy out Kleber and flip Reaves at the deadline.

[Gold Dragon]

Lavine will have trade value at 30-35M per year if he agrees to the extension. So it is only one year of not being worth his contract. And hopefully he will be traded onwards by the trade deadline as a positive asset.

Just one more comment about this deal. Another motivation was to pick up a big salary that could be traded at the deadline for someone like Giannis other than Scottie and BI. In this scenario we only have to give up 1 starter to match salaries instead of 2. There may be other big names available at the deadline.

SAC gets: RJ, IQ, Ochai, 2026 lottery protected 1st
TOR gets: Lavine, Keegan Murray

JP/Mamu/Chomche
SB/CMB/Mogbo
Murray/GD/Battle
BI/Walter/Lawson/Temple
Lavine/Shead/Martin

At the deadline
MIL gets: Lavine, GD, 2026 1st (if in the lottery). 2028 1st, 2030 1st, 2032 1st
TOR gets: Giannis

JP/Mamu/Chomche
Giannis/CMB/Mogbo
Murray/Walter
BI/Battle/Lawson/Temple
SB/Shead/Martin

I think we are still under the tax with this roster but resigning Murray would push us over in 26-27.