Lauri Ablaze in Portland with Charlotte

[PDXKnight]

I didnt see Camara in the deal originally. That part especially makes it a no for me

[PDXKnight]

Lol Camara and 3 firsts to swap Lauri for Grant? That seems so unbelievably far off.

100 percent. As someone else said already I probably wouldn't even do Camara for Lauri straight up and to me that includes even if we could dump Grant as part of it. But at least that package would be closer to fair value perhaps. But really even still its a tough deal to stomach

[Village Idiot]

Blazers(stay serious after adding Dame & Jrue to Avdija in successive offseasons)
Lauri

Jazz (deepen tank after subtracting Sexton & Collins)
J. Grant
Camara
2028 Magic 1st (unprotected)
2030 Blazers/Bucks (more favorable) 1st
J. Green
2026 Magic 1st via Charlotte (24 on Tankathon)

Hornets (get a starting C)
RW III

Absolutely not. Not even in the realm of being close.

Lauri for Grant + RWIII is the most that Id consider

Lauri & Grant have similar value. Both are massively overpaid for what they bring. Lauri is a better player, but he also makes 50% more

To be honest I wouldn´t trade Grant straight up for Markannen. Grant, when engaged and historically, is a plus defender. Lauri is not. Grant connected on >40% of his threes the previous two seasons. Hopefully he comes back strong this season on a team done with tanking.

[Pattycakes]

You said Blazers serious then have them trading Camara in same post. Joke?

[tcheco]

Camara makes little sense to be here, also, dont think Portland should aim to add Lauri, especially knowing they would pay too many picks to get him, and not knowing how Lillard will be back, seems too much of a rush, too muck risk really

[MasterIchiro]

You said Blazers serious then have them trading Camara in same post. Joke?

I have Lauri as a #2 option on most rosters and especially this one.

Fail to see how that's not a serious acquisition.

Ainge is posturing like he won't move Lauri. I'm just trying to translate that into his asking price, which would surely include one legit prospect plus at least 2 first rounders.

He gets a 3rd 1st here for taking on Josh Green.

[tester551]

You said Blazers serious then have them trading Camara in same post. Joke?

I have Lauri as a #2 option on most rosters and especially this one.

Fail to see how that's not a serious acquisition.

Ainge is posturing like he won't move Lauri. I'm just trying to translate that into his asking price, which would surely include one legit prospect plus at least 2 first rounders.

He gets a 3rd 1st here for taking on Josh Green.

If you're trying to evaluate Utah's asking price... I think your proposal is reasonably correct.

However, asking prices can have NO basis in reality (as in this case).

[MasterIchiro]

You said Blazers serious then have them trading Camara in same post. Joke?

I have Lauri as a #2 option on most rosters and especially this one.

Fail to see how that's not a serious acquisition.

Ainge is posturing like he won't move Lauri. I'm just trying to translate that into his asking price, which would surely include one legit prospect plus at least 2 first rounders.

He gets a 3rd 1st here for taking on Josh Green.

If you're trying to evaluate Utah's asking price... I think your proposal is reasonably correct.

However, asking prices can have NO basis in reality (as in this case).

I agree there's no basis for the asking price but I think it's a realistic starting point. If the Blazers are interested in Lauri, they may be on the hook to pay a premium. If they like him (and they do seem to need a go-to scorer), I don't think they'd torpedo this proposal on its face the way some fans are doing.

Overall, I think Lauri will go to the highest bidder which is the mark of a good GM. And the price may defy market expectations. The settlement cost may be closer to this initial offer than some of the counters here which amount to: "Nope, would rather have Grant" and "This is not serious". Some seem to totally disregard interest in Lauri and reject this as a starting point, however realistic.

The first step is admitting he'd make the Blazers more competitive and the team has added win-now players 2 consecutive offseasons. They are trending towards players like Lauri, not away from them.

[BlazersBroncos]

I like Lauri but not at this cost.

I think the Blazers roster is set for the year. See how the kids shake out, if they are not where you hope then cash out next summer for something more win-now.

[tester551]

I have Lauri as a #2 option on most rosters and especially this one.

Fail to see how that's not a serious acquisition.

Ainge is posturing like he won't move Lauri. I'm just trying to translate that into his asking price, which would surely include one legit prospect plus at least 2 first rounders.

He gets a 3rd 1st here for taking on Josh Green.

If you're trying to evaluate Utah's asking price... I think your proposal is reasonably correct.

However, asking prices can have NO basis in reality (as in this case).

I agree there's no basis for the asking price but I think it's a realistic starting point. If the Blazers are interested in Lauri, they may be on the hook to pay a premium. If they like him (and they do seem to need a go-to scorer), I don't think they'd torpedo this proposal on its face the way some fans are doing.

Overall, I think Lauri will go to the highest bidder which is the mark of a good GM. And the price may defy market expectations. The settlement cost may be closer to this initial offer than some of the counters here which amount to: "Nope, would rather have Grant" and "This is not serious". Some seem to totally disregard interest in Lauri and reject this as a starting point, however realistic.

The first step is admitting he'd make the Blazers more competitive and the team has added win-now players 2 consecutive offseasons. They are trending towards players like Lauri, not away from them.

See - this is where you are WAY off base...

Grant & Lauri are essentially the same player.
Lauri is the better player, but he also comes at 150% of the cost.

Again- I would not be surprised if this is Jazz' asking price. It's also why I highly doubt Lauri will be moved... because the reality of his value is significantly less

[Vae Victus]

You said Blazers serious then have them trading Camara in same post. Joke?

I have Lauri as a #2 option on most rosters and especially this one.

Fail to see how that's not a serious acquisition.

Ainge is posturing like he won't move Lauri. I'm just trying to translate that into his asking price, which would surely include one legit prospect plus at least 2 first rounders.

He gets a 3rd 1st here for taking on Josh Green.

The problem with saying that Lauri is a #2 option and getting paid #2 option money (30% max), is that if he's your #2 option and you dont have a rookie contract instant high impact #1 option on the roster (think Lebron/Luka/Shaq just coming into the league), your team is not gonna be any good, due to not having enough money to fill out the rest of the roster with good players on reasonable deals. Lauri makes too much for what he provides and his 30% max is a HUGE impediment on good team building.

Raw cap space is more valuable than Lauri for non-contenders, which POR is still in the beginning of their rebuild. Raw cap space can be wisely used to absorb unwanted contracts + draft capital from teams desperate to duck the 2nd apron or to get under the cap to make other moves. Lauri on his current deal and current level of play is a huge negative. Sure he has bounceback potential, he's still in his prime, but why would another team pay/trade maximum value when they dont know if he's able to get back to that level AND saddled with that contract.

POR even in a 1 for 1 straight swap for Lauri is better off keeping Grant. Shorter deal on less money and Grant has bouncback potential too, so he'll be MUCH easier to trade to a contender to be a #3 option who can D up. Much easier sell, than trying to convince someone that Lauri is a legit #2 option who's also below avg on D.