ATL - Bridges Extension - 4/150

drew881 · Post #1661 » by **drew881** » Tue Jul 22, 2025 11:49 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:
drew881 wrote:Clippers can run a Paul, Harden, Leonard, Batum , Lopez lineup whose average age is 36.4 years.

Maybe they go with a youth movement and swap out 1 of these for the 32 year old Bogdan Bogdanovic?

That unit can be nicknamed “the retirement home”

BroncoBuck · Post #1662 » by **BroncoBuck** » Tue Jul 22, 2025 1:17 pm

Chris Paul has scored 20 or more points exactly 1 time in the last two seasons combined (140 games).

RogerMurdock · Post #1663 » by **RogerMurdock** » Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:49 pm

In a nice bit of synergy, everyone on the Clippers roster has sailed on a clipper.

BroncoBuck · Post #1664 » by **BroncoBuck** » Tue Jul 22, 2025 4:06 pm

ESPN 30 for 30 dropped their Basketball Heaven podcast series. I definitely recommend checking it out.

pifhluk23 · Post #1665 » by **pifhluk23** » Tue Jul 22, 2025 4:14 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:I like the Clippers' roster.

Me too. And making the Finals in the league now is just being good enough and staying healthy while everyone else gets hurt.

Reddeye · Post #1666 » by **Reddeye** » Tue Jul 22, 2025 4:41 pm

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6507754/2025/07/21/damian-lillard-returns-to-portland/?source=emp_shared_article

Profound23 · Post #1667 » by **Profound23** » Tue Jul 22, 2025 4:42 pm

pifhluk23 wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:I like the Clippers' roster.

Me too. And making the Finals in the league now is just being good enough and staying healthy while everyone else gets hurt.

So then you would think teams wouldn't load up with players who old and/or oft-injured. Clippers might as well trade for Khris and Embiid too now.

Ron Swanson · Post #1668 » by **Ron Swanson** » Tue Jul 22, 2025 4:55 pm

Chris Paul, Harden, and Brook were ironically all "iron men" last season (82, 80, and 79 games played). I don't understand how some can keep insisting that there's any sort of common age variable in predicting postseason health. Sure, Kawhi is notoriously made of glass, but he was just as fragile at 27-years old as he is now. Meanwhile, 27-year old Tatum and 25-year old Haliburton will be busy all next year rehabbing knee injuries that they might never even fully recover from.

SupremeHustle · Post #1669 » by **SupremeHustle** » Tue Jul 22, 2025 6:56 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Chris Paul, Harden, and Brook were ironically all "iron men" last season (82, 80, and 79 games played). I don't understand how some can keep insisting that there's any sort of common age variable in predicting postseason health. Sure, Kawhi is notoriously made of glass, but he was just as fragile at 27-years old as he is now. Meanwhile, 27-year old Tatum and 25-year old Haliburton will be busy all next year rehabbing injuries that they might never even fully recover from.

ShootingtheJ · Post #1670 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Tue Jul 22, 2025 9:16 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Chris Paul, Harden, and Brook were ironically all "iron men" last season (82, 80, and 79 games played). I don't understand how some can keep insisting that there's any sort of common age variable in predicting postseason health. Sure, Kawhi is notoriously made of glass, but he was just as fragile at 27-years old as he is now. Meanwhile, 27-year old Tatum and 25-year old Haliburton will be busy all next year rehabbing knee injuries that they might never even fully recover from.

Sure, but injury isn't the only factor of aging. Lopez was healthy last year, but still a shell of himself. Some players age out slowly, other fall off a cliff. The Clippers players? It's a pretty easy bet that they all will regress or continue to regress next year.

Plossum · Post #1671 » by **Plossum** » Tue Jul 22, 2025 11:40 pm

What happening with Giggity Gidds and the Bulls? Reinsdorf being cheap or prudent?

tedbrogen · Post #1672 » by **tedbrogen** » Wed Jul 23, 2025 3:45 am

Plossum wrote:What happening with Giggity Gidds and the Bulls? Reinsdorf being cheap or prudent?

Seems like a game of chicken. Bulls don’t feel he’s worth $30M per year and they know no one can pay him more than the $14M MLE, so I’d assume they are hoping he blinks first and they lock him into something around $20M per season.

He could in theory take the QO ($11M)for one season and be an unrestricted free agent next offseason but then he needs to hope some team has actual cap space and wants to spend it on him or can talk the Bulls into a sign and trade where they take back salary next offseason.

Bulls are in the driver’s seat here but I assume at some point it starts to poison the well with Giddey.
Same situation as the other RFAs (Kumbucket, CamT), no teams have actual cap space, if they sign an offer sheet for the full MLE, it’s less than they feel they are worth and allows their current team to match and lock them in on a good deal.

I’d happily trade Kuz + 31 first (top 3 protected) for Giddey on a 4/120 deal.

He’s 23, shot above league average on threes last season on almost 4 attempts per game, is good at everything else, and could run the offense when GA is off the floor.

tedbrogen · Post #1673 » by **tedbrogen** » Wed Jul 23, 2025 3:52 am

Just looked up the rules for offer sheets and teams can extend the expiration all the way to March 1.

Even after the offer sheet expires, the player is still an RFA.

If the player sits out the entire season, they are still an RFA next offseason.

So only leverage a player would have is if they waited to sign the QO until 2/28, then slow played making their debut for the season to get into game shape, they could collect the prorated portion of the QO salary for only a couple weeks of games then be a free agent. But I’m not sure how many teams would be beating down the door to spend cap space on them the following offseason.

Either there will be some sign and trades where these RFAs get paid or teams will get to lock them into relatively bargain deals due to lack of leverage.

pifhluk23 · Post #1674 » by **pifhluk23** » Wed Jul 23, 2025 11:51 am

Giddey is pretty bad off ball. He'd help us in the regular season for sure but once it got to the playoffs he's being left open. Every player should be looked at in the lens of "do they fit around Giannis in a playoff scenario" Giddey does not.

Badgerlander · Post #1675 » by **Badgerlander** » Wed Jul 23, 2025 1:08 pm

Read on Twitter

JayMKE · Post #1676 » by **JayMKE** » Wed Jul 23, 2025 3:33 pm

Horst hits on a pick and he **** trades the guy as an add on to salary dump

Ugh

MikeIsGood · Post #1677 » by **MikeIsGood** » Wed Jul 23, 2025 3:57 pm

AJ Johnson being a good dunker does not mean Horst hit on the pick. Someone shared a thread from some Wizards fans like 3 weeks ago talking about how AJ Johnson has no discernable real basketball skills, and they're still talking about it from watching him in SL even. Not worth getting worked up over until he actually looks like a competent player on a real NBA team.

https://www.reddit.com/r/washingtonwizards/comments/1m1y88r/aj_johnsons_summer_league_play/

Ron Swanson · Post #1678 » by **Ron Swanson** » Wed Jul 23, 2025 4:07 pm

I do find it funny that all the consensus player comps/archetypes for AJ (even if he does eventually become an NBA player) are all dudes that this board pretty much hates (Jamal Crawford, Jordan Clarkson, post-ACL Derrick Rose).

tedbrogen · Post #1679 » by **tedbrogen** » Wed Jul 23, 2025 5:01 pm

pifhluk23 wrote:Giddey is pretty bad off ball. He'd help us in the regular season for sure but once it got to the playoffs he's being left open. Every player should be looked at in the lens of "do they fit around Giannis in a playoff scenario" Giddey does not.

Almost 38% from three last season on around four attempts per game. Free throw percentage indicates that’s sustainable. That’s before getting into him attacking if left alone.

He’s a significant upgrade on Kuz.imo and is young enough that he could level up.

Post #1680 » by **MickeyDavis** » Wed Jul 23, 2025 5:01 pm

Daravin Ham was a great dunker (the Ham Slamwich) and a lousy basketball player.