Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas: KPJ confirmed ankle sprain after MRI

[Bernman]

Anthony and Rollins are both great rebounding guards. If Trent is your worst guy out there then you're doing fine. I could honestly see any number of backcourt combos being this team's go-to lineup. KPJ/Green, KPJ/Rollins, Anthony/Trent, Rollins/Green, etc. There's no clear pecking order nor should there be. All these guys should be hungry and have to prove that they deserve minutes over the others. Doc at least gives young guys chances, sometimes to a fault (Andre).

Turner & Trent are really bad at it for position. Then there are 3 guards overall. Cole wasn't as good at it as KPJ was for us. There's no evidence Rollins is great at it, college or pro. He's decent, maybe above average, for a guard. Averaged less than 5 per 36 here.

Anthony-Trent is pretty defending backcourt. Rollins isn't a cure-all. And then you're conceding that for worse playmaking. Culling KPJ & Green hardly seems like the way to go. They should all get shots, but 1 or both will prove among our 3 best guards, especially w/ Giannis-Turner.

[fan230]

Cole Anthony, Kevin Porter Jr., Gary Trent Jr., Ryan Rollins, Gary Harris, AJ Green, Taurean Prince, Kyle Kuzma
Giannis Antetokounmpo, Bobby Portis, Myles Turner, Jericho Sims

Plus Ajax

Equals 13 players in our roster. We still have 2 open spots plus the ajax spot potentially.

Horst is trying for an impact player I would guess like say Wiggins. Alternatively, Thanasis may fill one of the open slots.

[LUKE23]

Bucks were 6th in DREB% starting three guys who averaged under 6.0 rebounds per 36 (Dame, Lopez, Prince) for a majority of the season.

Porter averaged 2.4 more boards per 36 than Dame, Turner averaged 2.1 more boards per 36 than Lopez. We still have Portis off the bench. I don't see the rebounding being much different than last year. In fact, I would think the offensive rebounding would be better (hard to be worse) just due to the fact they have a way more athletic starting 5 and don't have to send everyone back on transition defense every possession.

[Ron Swanson]

I'd say a guy who's longer than Jrue and averaged the same rebound rate (7.2%) as him qualifies as a pretty good rebounder for a guard, and if Cole Anthony hasn't proven he's anything other than a 6th man type guy then neither has Kevin Porter really. But the "3 guards" thing I can definitely see being an issue with this roster given the only viable big wing options they have (Prince, Kuzma). That's why they really need a complimentary SF sized 3&D guy to really round out this rotation, lest we be forced to shoe-horn all these 6'4 guards into that spot like we had to do in the playoffs (and now add Gary Harris).

[Profound23]

Bucks were 6th in DREB% starting three guys who averaged under 6.0 rebounds per 36 (Dame, Lopez, Prince) for a majority of the season.

Porter averaged 2.4 more boards per 36 than Dame, Turner averaged 2.1 more boards per 36 than Lopez. We still have Portis off the bench. I don't see the rebounding being much different than last year. In fact, I would think the offensive rebounding would be better (hard to be worse) just due to the fact they have a way more athletic starting 5 and don't have to send everyone back on transition defense every possession.

There is no doubt that Turner struggles with rebounds, but he definitely is not a drop off from what we seen out of Brook the past few years. In fact Turner at least boxes out his man better than what I have seen from any of our bigs, this includes Giannis and Bobby.

Both Turner and Brook rely on tapping potential rebounds out which at times hurts and other times is helpful.

[Bernman]

Bucks were 6th in DREB% starting three guys who averaged under 6.0 rebounds per 36 (Dame, Lopez, Prince) for a majority of the season.

Porter averaged 2.4 more boards per 36 than Dame, Turner averaged 2.1 more boards per 36 than Lopez. We still have Portis off the bench. I don't see the rebounding being much different than last year. In fact, I would think the offensive rebounding would be better (hard to be worse) just due to the fact they have a way more athletic starting 5 and don't have to send everyone back on transition defense every possession.

Turner didn't have a rebounding pairing that wasn't out-rebounded by the opponent. Brook is superior for your d-rebounds cuz he boxed out well. He just was also finally under water rebounding-wise cuz he couldn't get back on D to justify going after offensive boards.

And Turner was flanked by a better perimeter players in terms of rebounding. Our only advantage would be w/ Giannis vs. Siakam. It's unrealistic rebounding won't be an issue if we go 3 guards, and it at least aren't the right ones (i.e. probably not Trent or playing w/out KPJ).

[emunney]

I think we've got to do the best we can team rebounding and strategically concede that we're going to get beat there, but hope that a deep guard rotation will allow guys to play with the kind of energy that will prevent a bloodbath. It should help, for example, that the guards can keep the ball in front. Small sample but the Comeback Lineup didn't have major problems with rebounding for exactly those reasons (actually narrowly won the rebounding battle) -- limited penetration, everybody in position when the shot went up, gang rebounding.

[Ron Swanson]

Yes, much like defense, scheme/positioning/role assignment >>>> just having a collection of individually good rebounding personnel. This was made pretty clear when under Bud we were always pretty much a Top 2-3 rebounding team in basketball until Griffin came along and we inexplicably transformed overnight into a mediocre one (and absolute trash on the offensive glass) with almost entirely the same personnel.

[emunney]

If you think about the most typical OReb situation, it's generally like: someone gets beat off the dribble, the big comes over to contest the shot off the drive, and then his man dunks the miss. If you limit step 1, you're way ahead of the game.

[drew881]

If you think about the most typical OReb situation, it's generally like: someone gets beat off the dribble, the big comes over to contest the shot off the drive, and then his man dunks the miss. If you limit step 1, you're way ahead of the game.

I thought you said 0 Reb situation and immediately saw this:

[mlloyd10]

Has that "insider" came back with an update regarding Kuz?

[tedbrogen]

Completely agree with the concept that it’s more important to play guys who can stay in front on defense, properly rotate on defense, provide spacing on offense, and play with pace rather than obsessing over playing the best rebounding lineup.

For example, the best lineup of individual rebounders would be something like: Anthony/Kuz/GA/Bobby/Sims. Although knowing Doc, he’ll actually play that lineup at some point.

[engelmartin]

I'd say a guy who's longer than Jrue and averaged the same rebound rate (7.2%) as him qualifies as a pretty good rebounder for a guard, and if Cole Anthony hasn't proven he's anything other than a 6th man type guy then neither has Kevin Porter really. But the "3 guards" thing I can definitely see being an issue with this roster given the only viable big wing options they have (Prince, Kuzma). That's why they really need a complimentary SF sized 3&D guy to really round out this rotation, lest we be forced to shoe-horn all these 6'4 guards into that spot like we had to do in the playoffs (and now add Gary Harris).

It’s kind of funny how much better we would all feel if just one of these guys was two inches taller.

[emunney]

Cole Anthony, Kevin Porter Jr., Gary Trent Jr., Ryan Rollins, Gary Harris, AJ Green, Taurean Prince, Kyle Kuzma
Giannis Antetokounmpo, Bobby Portis, Myles Turner, Jericho Sims

Plus Ajax

Equals 13 players in our roster. We still have 2 open spots plus the ajax spot potentially.

Horst is trying for an impact player I would guess like say Wiggins. Alternatively, Thanasis may fill one of the open slots.

You're missing Tyler Smith and Livingston.

[soxperry]

Has that "insider" came back with an update regarding Kuz?

Yes, whats the latest??

Im losing faith

[DanoMac]

Has that "insider" came back with an update regarding Kuz?

Yes, whats the latest??

Im losing faith

What’d I miss?

[emunney]

Has that "insider" came back with an update regarding Kuz?

Yes, whats the latest??

Im losing faith

What’d I miss?

Poster with an org contact said their person said something like, "the player you think should be traded will be traded." Medieval seer ****.

[ShootingtheJ]

Yes, whats the latest??

Im losing faith

What’d I miss?

Poster with an org contact said their person said something like, "the player you think should be traded will be traded." Medieval seer ****.

I'm guessing we won't see Kuzma moved until the Kumminga contract is resolved.

[IrishRainbow]

Maybe Ekpe Udoh is available to help box out.

[soxperry]

What’d I miss?

Poster with an org contact said their person said something like, "the player you think should be traded will be traded." Medieval seer ****.

I'm guessing we won't see Kuzma moved until the Kumminga contract is resolved.

Kuminga...the gift that keeps on giving.