Trades and Transactions 2025 IV

[thebuzzardman]

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Considering they fired the coach that made him sad, hired another coach and that coach hired an assistant coach with ties to Mikal, I'd think so.

[TheGreenArrow]

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[KnixinSix]

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If/When they trade Hart, Mitch and Bridges for either Giannis, LeBron, or Booker that will open up a nice spot for playing time for Simmons.

[ctorres]

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he should sign with us

less pressure for him to stay healthy and play every game

McBride, Clarkson, Hart, Yabusele, and Hukporti are formidable off the bench

if SImmons plays, then Hukporti sits

I'm assuming they're gonna start Mitch, but even if they don't, Simmons is under no pressure with us to play every game

Suns would start him and play him at the 4. If Ben Simmons wants a chance to start and play every game, then he should go to Phoenix. He could play point guard at the 4 or 5 and get the ball to Devin Booker, Jalen Green, and Dillon Brooks

[spree2kawhi]

If we sign Simmons and he’s seen grimacing on our bench, I’ll blame you guys for it. From what I’ve seen, he’s a culture killer.

[8516knicks]

Kings, Suns, Knicks & Celtics ... One of those is not like the others. If he just plays for a paycheck, it won't be the Knicks. Of course, maybe we should hope he stays true to form. Because odds are he will be true to form in every possible way.

[KnicksGadfly]

If we sign Simmons and he’s seen grimacing on our bench, I’ll blame you guys for it. From what I’ve seen, he’s a culture killer.

I’m not that worried about him killing the culture. It’s his mental fortitude that I’m worried about. He couldn’t handle New Jersey - the New York Knicks are going to be an infinitely tougher place.

As for culture killing, I feel Jordan Clarkson might be the one who might be the most at risk of sitting on the bench grimacing. If he doesn’t improve upon his play in Utah, he’s gonna be benched. I hope the Knicks made their expectations clear when they signed him…he needs to leave behind the losing ways

[ctorres]

If we sign Simmons and he’s seen grimacing on our bench, I’ll blame you guys for it. From what I’ve seen, he’s a culture killer.

I’m not that worried about him killing the culture. It’s his mental fortitude that I’m worried about. He couldn’t handle New Jersey - the New York Knicks are going to be an infinitely tougher place.

As for culture killing, I feel Jordan Clarkson might be the one who might be the most at risk of sitting on the bench grimacing. If he doesn’t improve upon his play in Utah, he’s gonna be benched. I hope the Knicks made their expectations clear when they signed him…he needs to leave behind the losing ways

Clarkson was a winner in Utah his first 3 seasons, one of which he went to the Western Semis. This was at age 27 to 29 too. His numbers for the Jazz in the playoffs were 17.3 ppg on 45/35/94 shooting splits.

I am giving him grace for the last 3 seasons because Ainge has done everything he could to force the Jazz to lose games.

I think Clarkson might shock us with how good he is and we might debate whether he should actually start.

[Jeff Van Gully]

If we sign Simmons and he’s seen grimacing on our bench, I’ll blame you guys for it. From what I’ve seen, he’s a culture killer.

I’m not that worried about him killing the culture. It’s his mental fortitude that I’m worried about. He couldn’t handle New Jersey - the New York Knicks are going to be an infinitely tougher place.

As for culture killing, I feel Jordan Clarkson might be the one who might be the most at risk of sitting on the bench grimacing. If he doesn’t improve upon his play in Utah, he’s gonna be benched. I hope the Knicks made their expectations clear when they signed him…he needs to leave behind the losing ways

Clarkson was a winner in Utah his first 3 seasons, one of which he went to the Western Semis. This was at age 27 to 29 too. His numbers for the Jazz in the playoffs were 17.3 ppg on 45/35/94 shooting splits.

I am giving him grace for the last 3 seasons because Ainge has done everything he could to force the Jazz to lose games.

I think Clarkson might shock us with how good he is and we might debate whether he should actually start.

this has been their agenda since the signing. you don’t have to go down the rabbit hole.

[Jeff Van Gully]

we really sitting here waiting on ben simmons: the decision?

[KnicksGadfly]

I’m not that worried about him killing the culture. It’s his mental fortitude that I’m worried about. He couldn’t handle New Jersey - the New York Knicks are going to be an infinitely tougher place.

As for culture killing, I feel Jordan Clarkson might be the one who might be the most at risk of sitting on the bench grimacing. If he doesn’t improve upon his play in Utah, he’s gonna be benched. I hope the Knicks made their expectations clear when they signed him…he needs to leave behind the losing ways

Clarkson was a winner in Utah his first 3 seasons, one of which he went to the Western Semis. This was at age 27 to 29 too. His numbers for the Jazz in the playoffs were 17.3 ppg on 45/35/94 shooting splits.

I am giving him grace for the last 3 seasons because Ainge has done everything he could to force the Jazz to lose games.

I think Clarkson might shock us with how good he is and we might debate whether he should actually start.

this has been their agenda since the signing. you don’t have to go down the rabbit hole.

Hmm JVG, really respect you as a mod and the hard work you do to keep this forum running, but I must admit, I'm a bit stuck here, given the power disparity between us. If I am derailing, then I would almost certainly prefer a warning than a post like this. The reason I say this is because if any other poster used inflaming words like "agenda" or "rabbit hole," which I am kind of construing to mean something like "your argument has no merit" then I'd feel like there is no value to that post -- it's only kind of there to bait me, more than engage with ctorres. Those are the same words used to describe certain people and their beliefs in current political debates, after all.

That said, ctorres kind of hits the nail on the head with maybe the difference between our beliefs about Clarkson. "I am giving grace..." That's basically where our differences lie. I don't like giving grace to a certain type of player and I feel strongly about the type of player that is required to bring this team to the next level. However, one thing I appreciate about ctorres is that his post does acknowledge validity in my view. But maybe he's right, and I'll be eating crow.

Moreover, given the topic that we're discussing (players that impact the team culture), I don't think I'm off-base. We have seen guys with similar weaknesses (offense only, selfish play) derail the team culture and cause drama, with the most recent being the guy responsible for Hamsterdam and Evan Fournier, who was a lot more efficient than Clarkson. Ben Simmons, with his weaknesses, is not that type of guy. He might have his own things to work through, but I don't worry about him destroying the culture like that. Maybe I could have put it that way, but yes, if we're worried about the culture, Ben Simmons is not the guy to worry about.

[G_K_F]

Brogdon >>>> Simmons

If I’m going to get a guy who’s always hurt at least get someone who can shoot and isn’t soft.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

we really sitting here waiting on ben simmons: the decision?

[Moose]

we really sitting here waiting on ben simmons: the decision?

There aren't a lot of backup ballhandlers/playmakers remaining. He can defend and facilitate a bit. And the way the current roster is set if healthy, he wouldn't need to play more than 15 minutes per game (if he plays).

If he wants to come to NY, I can see it happening.

[thebuzzardman]

we really sitting here waiting on ben simmons: the decision?

Damn. This sequel sucks.

[Fury]

we really sitting here waiting on ben simmons: the decision?

Damn. This sequel sucks.

Most do

[Jonathan2347]

If we sign Simmons and he’s seen grimacing on our bench, I’ll blame you guys for it. From what I’ve seen, he’s a culture killer.

I’m not that worried about him killing the culture. It’s his mental fortitude that I’m worried about. He couldn’t handle New Jersey - the New York Knicks are going to be an infinitely tougher place.

As for culture killing, I feel Jordan Clarkson might be the one who might be the most at risk of sitting on the bench grimacing. If he doesn’t improve upon his play in Utah, he’s gonna be benched. I hope the Knicks made their expectations clear when they signed him…he needs to leave behind the losing ways

Clarkson was a winner in Utah his first 3 seasons, one of which he went to the Western Semis. This was at age 27 to 29 too. His numbers for the Jazz in the playoffs were 17.3 ppg on 45/35/94 shooting splits.

I am giving him grace for the last 3 seasons because Ainge has done everything he could to force the Jazz to lose games.

I think Clarkson might shock us with how good he is and we might debate whether he should actually start.

I'm on bored with starting Clarkson instead of Duece

Brunson
Clarkson
Bridges
OG
Towns

Duece
Hart
Yabu
Simmons
Mitch

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[BKlutch]

Clarkson was a winner in Utah his first 3 seasons, one of which he went to the Western Semis. This was at age 27 to 29 too. His numbers for the Jazz in the playoffs were 17.3 ppg on 45/35/94 shooting splits.

I am giving him grace for the last 3 seasons because Ainge has done everything he could to force the Jazz to lose games.

I think Clarkson might shock us with how good he is and we might debate whether he should actually start.

this has been their agenda since the signing. you don’t have to go down the rabbit hole.

Hmm JVG, really respect you as a mod and the hard work you do to keep this forum running, but I must admit, I'm a bit stuck here, given the power disparity between us. If I am derailing, then I would almost certainly prefer a warning than a post like this. The reason I say this is because if any other poster used inflaming words like "agenda" or "rabbit hole," which I am kind of construing to mean something like "your argument has no merit" then I'd feel like there is no value to that post -- it's only kind of there to bait me, more than engage with ctorres. Those are the same words used to describe certain people and their beliefs in current political debates, after all.

That said, ctorres kind of hits the nail on the head with maybe the difference between our beliefs about Clarkson. "I am giving grace..." That's basically where our differences lie. I don't like giving grace to a certain type of player and I feel strongly about the type of player that is required to bring this team to the next level. However, one thing I appreciate about ctorres is that his post does acknowledge validity in my view. But maybe he's right, and I'll be eating crow.

Moreover, given the topic that we're discussing (players that impact the team culture), I don't think I'm off-base. We have seen guys with similar weaknesses (offense only, selfish play) derail the team culture and cause drama, with the most recent being the guy responsible for Hamsterdam and Evan Fournier, who was a lot more efficient than Clarkson. Ben Simmons, with his weaknesses, is not that type of guy. He might have his own things to work through, but I don't worry about him destroying the culture like that. Maybe I could have put it that way, but yes, if we're worried about the culture, Ben Simmons is not the guy to worry about.

I’m not a fan of Ben Simmons but your thoughtful post has given me reason to reply. When he was in Brooklyn he suffered two maladies: a bad back and a psychological one. This latter one was greatly provoked and exacerbated by the hateful attitude of the owner’s wife, Clara Tsai, as she constantly demeaned, belittled, and threatened Ben. She e en told their GM, Sean Marks, to trade Ben straight up for Bol Bol, an actual impossibility due to their mismatched salaries.

When he recovered physically, he improved enough to contribute to his new club. He even improved his foul shooting. While I haven’t personally decided whom I prefer most for our last roster spots, I certainly am no longer as adamantly opposed to Ben as I would have been 2 years ago.

In any event, his position isn’t likely to involve enough playing time to make his contribution critical to the outcome of many games. So if he’s signed, I’ll root for him to do his best for the sake of our team. And if he does better than expected, I’ll be pleasantly surprised.

[BKlutch]

I’m not that worried about him killing the culture. It’s his mental fortitude that I’m worried about. He couldn’t handle New Jersey - the New York Knicks are going to be an infinitely tougher place.

As for culture killing, I feel Jordan Clarkson might be the one who might be the most at risk of sitting on the bench grimacing. If he doesn’t improve upon his play in Utah, he’s gonna be benched. I hope the Knicks made their expectations clear when they signed him…he needs to leave behind the losing ways

Clarkson was a winner in Utah his first 3 seasons, one of which he went to the Western Semis. This was at age 27 to 29 too. His numbers for the Jazz in the playoffs were 17.3 ppg on 45/35/94 shooting splits.

I am giving him grace for the last 3 seasons because Ainge has done everything he could to force the Jazz to lose games.

I think Clarkson might shock us with how good he is and we might debate whether he should actually start.

I'm on bored with starting Clarkson instead of Duece

Brunson
Clarkson
Bridges
OG
Towns

Duece
Hart
Yabu
Simmons
Mitch

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Why would you start Clarkson over Deuce?

[KnicksGadfly]

this has been their agenda since the signing. you don’t have to go down the rabbit hole.

Hmm JVG, really respect you as a mod and the hard work you do to keep this forum running, but I must admit, I'm a bit stuck here, given the power disparity between us. If I am derailing, then I would almost certainly prefer a warning than a post like this. The reason I say this is because if any other poster used inflaming words like "agenda" or "rabbit hole," which I am kind of construing to mean something like "your argument has no merit" then I'd feel like there is no value to that post -- it's only kind of there to bait me, more than engage with ctorres. Those are the same words used to describe certain people and their beliefs in current political debates, after all.

That said, ctorres kind of hits the nail on the head with maybe the difference between our beliefs about Clarkson. "I am giving grace..." That's basically where our differences lie. I don't like giving grace to a certain type of player and I feel strongly about the type of player that is required to bring this team to the next level. However, one thing I appreciate about ctorres is that his post does acknowledge validity in my view. But maybe he's right, and I'll be eating crow.

Moreover, given the topic that we're discussing (players that impact the team culture), I don't think I'm off-base. We have seen guys with similar weaknesses (offense only, selfish play) derail the team culture and cause drama, with the most recent being the guy responsible for Hamsterdam and Evan Fournier, who was a lot more efficient than Clarkson. Ben Simmons, with his weaknesses, is not that type of guy. He might have his own things to work through, but I don't worry about him destroying the culture like that. Maybe I could have put it that way, but yes, if we're worried about the culture, Ben Simmons is not the guy to worry about.

I’m not a fan of Ben Simmons but your thoughtful post has given me reason to reply. When he was in Brooklyn he suffered two maladies: a bad back and a psychological one. This latter one was greatly provoked and exacerbated by the hateful attitude of the owner’s wife, Clara Tsai, as she constantly demeaned, belittled, and threatened Ben. She e en told their GM, Sean Marks, to trade Ben straight up for Bol Bol, an actual impossibility due to their mismatched salaries.

When he recovered physically, he improved enough to contribute to his new club. He even improved his foul shooting. While I haven’t personally decided whom I prefer most for our last roster spots, I certainly am no longer as adamantly opposed to Ben as I would have been 2 years ago.

In any event, his position isn’t likely to involve enough playing time to make his contribution critical to the outcome of many games. So if he’s signed, I’ll root for him to do his best for the sake of our team. And if he does better than expected, I’ll be pleasantly surprised.

Do you have a source for Clara Tsai and that story? I haven't heard that before. I don't like the Tsais for personal reasons, but that seems pretty bad.

As for Simmons, I do think KAT/Yabu is a really good fit for him in terms of pairings. Mitch not so much. But even him being a good passer at the forward spot is something we're really missing. Brunson is really missing guys he can pass off to, whenever he gets doubled.

Then again, I might be making too much up about Simmons. He still has glaring offensive weaknesses and he's afraid of shooting sometimes, and it makes the fit awkward. Mike Brown would really have to work the bench perfectly. I don't like his fit with Hart or Mitch, and the playoffs...who knows how people will pick on his unwillingness to shoot.