Jeff Teague says LeBron was on roids in Miami

[Memories]

Anytime a player calls out Lebron for using PEDS

"nooo what does that scrub even know u cant prove anything al ala ala ala also so what if bron is using peds, everyone is but also noooo proof!!!!"

Guys, every single player is taking some sort of PED. Anabolics, HGH, Peptides, EPO, tons of stuff.

No need to have an epileptic fit anytime someone says Lebron- a dude with a very DHT influenced hairline, 3D delts, crazy cardio, very low bodyfat, irregular jaw size, literal HGH gut, ridiculously fast recovery, unheard of longevity - is taking PEDs. He most obviously is.

So is everyone else.

Here’s the thing. If everyone including LeBron was taking stuff, and specifically taking the same stuff then he wouldn’t be literally the only player in history with all of the features you cited above.

Jordan is the prime suspect right?

Balding at young age
Insane athleticism
Drinking and gambling most nights while playing games the next day
Playing 82 games a season with that lifestyle
Following up long seasons with long playoff runs
Rarely getting injured or recovering very fast
Played during the PED era of sports globally
Mysteriously stepped away from the game for 2 year intervals.

Malone too, Barkley? Rodman? Shaq?

In bold, wasn’t it because MJ was basically shadow banned due to his gambling?

[Iwasawitness]

I’m not really interested in going back and forth with you, because it’s clear your mind is made up based on being a fan of LeBron. You’ve already made up your mind.

Go look at lebrons dunks as a rookie and his dunks in his first year as a laker.
It's not a matter of my mind being made up or whatever. What you're saying is an outright lie. LeBron at age 35 was not a better athlete than he was at age 20. That might be the stupidest thing I've ever seen be said on this site, and that includes what's in my sig.

If you want to think LeBron did steroids, go ahead. Don't do it by saying things that would make any reasonable person think you're on drugs.

go look at LeBrons dunks as a rookie and his dunks his first year as a laker. Or his dunks any year in his mid 30s.

That's your best evidence? His dunks?

LeBron was able to move a lot faster for longer periods of time when he was 20 years old. He could play both ends of the floor for 40+ minutes on a nightly basis. And it was almost impossible to stay in front of him. LeBron at 35 routinely took plays off, only played one side of the floor and was a lot slower.

But yes, look at his dunks.

[Johnny Bball]

For one, how tf would Jeff Teague of all people know this?

"...Allegedly" - Teague

[Kent]

It's speculation by Teague.

Nothing more. Nothing less.

[zimpy27]

Here’s the thing. If everyone including LeBron was taking stuff, and specifically taking the same stuff then he wouldn’t be literally the only player in history with all of the features you cited above.

Jordan is the prime suspect right?

Balding at young age
Insane athleticism
Drinking and gambling most nights while playing games the next day
Playing 82 games a season with that lifestyle
Following up long seasons with long playoff runs
Rarely getting injured or recovering very fast
Played during the PED era of sports globally
Mysteriously stepped away from the game for 2 year intervals.

Malone too, Barkley? Rodman? Shaq?

Take one look at Jordan’s raw athleticism age 30 plus and compare it to him when he was under 30. Do the same with LeBron. LeBron was literally more athletic at 35 than he was at 20.

This is your bias, you were shouting about LeBron and PEDs like 10 years ago.

You're just looking for anything to bash on LeBron, that's all that's clear.

There is no evidence for PEDs in LeBron or Jordan or Malone or any player that hasn't been caught with them in system. So if you're going to make assertions based on pictures or performance then may as well tar every player on the league. They are all exceptional.

[MavsDirk41]

Im sure James is and has been on some sort of PEDs like alot of other professional athletes and i could care less. What amuses me is his fan base going bonkers over it. He could come out and admit it and some of you guys would still be in denial.

[og15]

Why would they not test a player because he is injured?

Since when does a person go off gear and then become noticable skinnier in 3 weeks?

Timeline is off, so that part is questionable, though he could have just misremembered the time, which happens.

While Lebron might be using some sort of performance enhancing substance like many athletes did and do, I'm not sure this Teague citation is actually giving us anything.

[LockoutSeason]

Here’s the thing. If everyone including LeBron was taking stuff, and specifically taking the same stuff then he wouldn’t be literally the only player in history with all of the features you cited above.

Jordan is the prime suspect right?

Balding at young age
Insane athleticism
Drinking and gambling most nights while playing games the next day
Playing 82 games a season with that lifestyle
Following up long seasons with long playoff runs
Rarely getting injured or recovering very fast
Played during the PED era of sports globally
Mysteriously stepped away from the game for 2 year intervals.

Malone too, Barkley? Rodman? Shaq?

Take one look at Jordan’s raw athleticism age 30 plus and compare it to him when he was under 30. Do the same with LeBron. LeBron was literally more athletic at 35 than he was at 20.

Every ‘90s player was on steroids. They didn’t even test back then. MJ was already balding at age 22.

[M2J]

Every players does steroids

I personally believe every player should have the right to do steroids. But idea of steroids is not that it is a full-blown cheat code. It helps your body heal and can prolong careers, and allow people to work out longer to enhance themselves. The reason why it's such an issue... Is baseball and Olympics sports made it about current day numbers versus historic player number.

Well guess what chalk it up to technology... I'd rather have our 100 million players playing longer and healthier.... Treat it like a different era and treat the statistics different.

I think steroids should be monitored based on injury status. I guess there is a lot of wiggle room for performance cheating. And like any medication overuse can have negative side effects both psychologically and physically. But when it comes to recovery, I think there should be some level of usage even if the league limited to one injury a year and for a short period of time

[mastermixer]

Every players does steroids

I personally believe every player should have the right to do steroids. But idea of steroids is not that it is a full-blown cheat code. It helps your body heal and can prolong careers, and allow people to work out longer to enhance themselves. The reason why it's such an issue... Is baseball and Olympics sports made it about current day numbers versus historic player number.

Well guess what chalk it up to technology... I'd rather have our 100 million players playing longer and healthier.... Treat it like a different era and treat the statistics different.

I think steroids should be monitored based on injury status. I guess there is a lot of wiggle room for performance cheating. And like any medication overuse can have negative side effects both psychologically and physically. But when it comes to recovery, I think there should be some level of usage even if the league limited to one injury a year and for a short period of time

All of that is happening in an open secret.

In about 10/20 years from now it will come out that everyone is juicing and we will all act shocked and surprised.

But everyone knows they are all juicing and we all don’t really care any more

[LakerLegend]

Jordan is the prime suspect right?

Balding at young age
Insane athleticism
Drinking and gambling most nights while playing games the next day
Playing 82 games a season with that lifestyle
Following up long seasons with long playoff runs
Rarely getting injured or recovering very fast
Played during the PED era of sports globally
Mysteriously stepped away from the game for 2 year intervals.

Malone too, Barkley? Rodman? Shaq?

Take one look at Jordan’s raw athleticism age 30 plus and compare it to him when he was under 30. Do the same with LeBron. LeBron was literally more athletic at 35 than he was at 20.

Every ‘90s player was on steroids. They didn’t even test back then. MJ was already balding at age 22.

https://foxsportsradio.iheart.com/content/2024-03-07-balco-founder-says-theres-reason-to-be-supiscious-on-lebron-using-peds/

[MAMBAEMD]

[Karate Diop]

For one, how tf would Jeff Teague of all people know this? And for two, does anyone actually care if a player is using gear? I sure don't. This isn't baseball where juicing gives you a massive edge at bat. I would be surprised if most players weren't on some form of steroids

Uh Jeff Teague is like the 50th person to have said/alluded to LeBron and PEDs.

And if those "50" how many of them were credible? And where's all the proof that these "50" people have accumulated?

[Plutonashfan]

The only problem with this little tale is that Lebron never missed three (or even two) consecutive weeks while on the Heat. Heck, he missed less than two weeks total in his four years in Miami...and almost always as 2-3 games taken off in the last week or so of the season (when most playoff teams rest their players).

I only glanced at the thread title and at first thought about his mini "vacation" in South Beach when he came back to the Cavs.

[Liam_Gallagher]

Bro's played in like four Olympics yet he's juicing? They're strict af.

[Onlytimewilltel]

Ehh who cares lol I’m sure most of them are on some enhanced supplements

[stillgotgame]

The only thing dumber than denying Bron is on PEDs is acting like he’s the only one on them.

Only 1 guy cramped up in the 2014 NBA Finals when it got hot in San Antonio.

[azcatz11]

Ehh who cares lol I’m sure most of them are on some enhanced supplements

Steroids make sports more exciting.

Late 90s baseball
Lance Armstrong
Tom Brady

[taikibansei]

The only problem with this little tale is that Lebron never missed three (or even two) consecutive weeks while on the Heat. Heck, he missed less than two weeks total in his four years in Miami...and almost always as 2-3 games taken off in the last week or so of the season (when most playoff teams rest their players).

I only glanced at the thread title and at first thought about his mini "vacation" in South Beach when he came back to the Cavs.

This is the full quote from the tweet in the OP:

Jeff Teague says LeBron James used steroids while being on the Heat

“They started testing for HGH and he had to sit out. He said his back was hurting and he sat out for 3 weeks then came back skinny.”

I.e., in addition to his statement not making sense medically, Jeff Teague got both the team and the time period wrong. There is a Latin phrase "Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus"--"false in one thing, false in everything"-- that used to be a formal rule of evidence in most Western countries. I.e., it used to be held mandatory to disregard all testimony from a witness who was proven to have spoken falsely even once on the stand.

While this no longer is legal doctrine in the US, I personally don't believe statements from someone once they've been proven to have spoken falsely on something big...particularly (as with Teague) where there's monetary incentive (e.g., publicity to save a flailing career) for him to lie. Just my two cents--your mileage may vary, of course!

[zimpy27]

I think the issue we have is why LeBron is targeted when all NBA players are exceptional human beings.

The singling out of LeBron is the problem here. Without evidence it doesn't make sense to single him out.

There have been actual NBA players caught with PEDs, there have been eras of NBA when there were no testing. LeBron has been the slowest player on average on the court for the last decade just about. He shows strong signs of reduced athleticism.